# Great things about a Trump presidency. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 9, 2016, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204 "2016-11-09T14:50:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/81 "2016-11-11T17:41:40Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > In fairness to Trump, he’s been building his image for 30 years. I doubt a crazy candidate who came out of nowhere would get as much coverage because he or she would lack the established media background. > > Similarly, I expect someone like George Clooney could announce he’s running for Senate in California and get some respectable percentage of the vote on name recognition alone. Posted by me, back in August: > [@Top actresses/actors who people act are hot but you think are meh](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-actresses-actors-who-people-act-are-hot-but-you-think-are-meh/764427/34): > > I bet the guy runs for President once Hillary has run her course. Me, just prior to the election: > [@The case against democracy](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-case-against-democracy/770413/35): > > I bet dollars to donuts that George Clooney runs for President after Hillary has her run. He’s probably not as stupid as Trump, but I’m not sure he’d be my pick for the office. But he’s a celebrity, a bunch of people would vote for him for no other reason. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/82 "2016-11-11T20:47:30Z")
> [@furt](#): > > … A president’s bully pulpit matters, and he/she sets a tone for the whole country. … For the past few years I’ve frequently been irritated by the many on-air speakers who have misused Teddy Roosevelt’s phrase: of course he was fond of using “bully” as a synonym for ‘wonderful,’ ‘excellent,’ or ‘superb.’ Thus he was saying that the Presidency offers a superb platform for getting one’s message across. But in recent years, people ignorant of the term’s origin seem to have decided that it meant that Roosevelt was celebrating his ability to be a bully. Now that meaning makes perfect sense, of course. ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/83 "2016-11-11T21:22:52Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > We pay lip-service to their refusal to honor human rights (like arresting an 8 year old for treason) and have for years. The Trump administration does not seem like it is going to be too concerned with human rights anywhere, least of all China. If he loves Putin for saying good things about him but doesn’t mind Russia’s rampant bombing of civilians and civilian targets (including schools and hospitals) in non-Assad-controlled Syria, anything China or other countries do human rights-wise is small beans by comparison. Trump’s only statements critical of China have been their trade/currency practices. Since he himself has openly expressed U.S. personnel should engage in torture and should kill the families of terrorists, human rights are the last thing on his mind. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/84 "2016-11-12T19:31:20Z")
I’m a dollar richer. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/85 "2016-11-12T21:02:04Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Hey, remember how only Nixon could go to China? > > What’s the equivalent for Trump? Heaven leaps to mind. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/86 "2016-11-12T21:27:17Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > I never implied that it was about Obama. I thought you said: > [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > 1. We will finally have a president that won’t cave into the Chinese on every issue whether it’s fake territorial claims, lead in baby formula, IP violations, etc. Since we ‘finally have a president who won’t cave’, does that not imply that Obama did? ---
**Author:** ![GoodOmens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@GoodOmens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoodOmens)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/87 "2016-11-13T15:18:28Z")
Warren G. Harding and Franklin Pierce are probably very happy right now. ---
**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/88 "2016-11-13T16:25:17Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I thought you said: > Since we ‘finally have a president who won’t cave’, does that not imply that Obama did? Also, the only other significant territorial issues that China has outside of the South China Sea are over Taiwan (where there has been longstanding bipartisan consensus to vow to supply Taiwan with weapons, but maintain deliberate “official” ambiguity about whether we would militarily respond to a Chinese invasion and to dissuade them from declaring independence) and between China and India over a glacier on the Tibet border. I don’t think the U.S. has ever taken any official position or cared that much about this issue, except to expect that China and India resolve it peacefully after the brief border war they had in the 1960s. There is a dispute between China and Japan over some rocks in the East China Sea, but the U.S. has gone on record as saying that it takes no official position about which country has ultimate sovereignty over the rocks but that they are covered by the U.S.-Japan mutual self-defense treaty since they are currently being administered by Japan. That’s certainly not surrendering anything or caving to China. So, if not Obama, then which president has caved to China’s territorial claims? The real problem is that in part due to right-wing media and its repeated assertions, Obama has been portrayed as weak and feckless and this is just assumed to be true across the board by everyone who isn’t an Obama fan. Evidence and reasoned argument takes a backseat (if they are in the car at all) to gut perceptions and feelings. Truthiness reigns supreme. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/89 "2016-11-15T14:54:32Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > 1. We will finally have a president that won’t cave into the Chinese on every issue whether it’s fake territorial claims, lead in baby formula, IP violations, etc. > > 2. Better relations with Russia. Despite what you may think about Putin, the world as a whole would function better if the Americans and Russian could work with each other. What’s happening in Syria proves that. > > 3. A president that understands the economy. Obama has really had no idea how to jumpstart this economy beyond tax and spend and spin. In his debates with McCain he offered no plan besides “I’ll consult with economists.” He supported giving banks free money and you can read about the [RFC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstruction_Finance_Corporation) to see how well that worked out the first time (Hint: the banks took the money and invested it for themselves and didn’t lend it out. Sound familiar?). > > 4. The fact that she lost to Trump makes it that much more humiliating for the Queen of the Harpies. Great Things About A Trump Presidency: 1. The first female president won’t be so horribly flawed that it makes us think twice about female presidents. 2. Young people will become more actively engaged in civics and politics. 3. We will probably see the repeal of parts of the NFA (first wrt suppressors and then sbr and sbs) ---
**Author:** ![TwiSpark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@TwiSpark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwiSpark)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/90 "2016-11-15T15:01:36Z")
From a British perspective, we get to see a bit less of Farage and hopefully Katie Hopkins will put her money where her mouth is and move there, so there’s that… ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/91 "2016-11-15T18:58:48Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > hopefully the end of safe spaces, trigger warnings, etc. Why would you think his election would accomplish that at all? The Trump subreddit, The\_Donald, has this as its rule: No Dissenters or SJWs. It’s actually gotten to be a regular in-joke just how easy it is to get banned there. It’s the ultimate safespace on Reddit. ---
**Author:** ![chargerrich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chargerrich/32/5399_2.png) [@chargerrich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chargerrich)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/92 "2016-11-15T19:09:38Z")
> [@blondebear](#): > > Lots of wall-construction jobs for our friends south of the border. Nah, in true Trump flip flop style and the beginning of his walkback on the promise of a massive wall… a fence is OK now. > **[Trump's wall to include fencing?](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-wall-mexican-border-fence-segments/)** > > President-elect Donald Trump says the wall on the Mexican border may have fence segments, and that he plans to deport or incarcerate "2 to 3 million" undocumented immigrants "that are criminal" Trump is a more orange and less intelligent version of Pat Buchannan, no? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![chargerrich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chargerrich/32/5399_2.png) [@chargerrich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chargerrich)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/93 "2016-11-15T19:11:35Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Yep. And I’ve also read the Constitution - especially that part where spending is controlled by the Congress more-so the House. The President controls very little if any of the budget. So your chart is meaningless but thanks for playing. Well at least we know you are a TRUE Trump supporter and flip flop with a much alacrity as the Orange Judas. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/94 "2016-11-16T00:59:59Z")
One good thing about electing Trump is that the racists are all going to come out of the woodwork and self identify. For example, these two. > **[West Virginia Mayor, Official Lose Jobs Over Post Calling Michelle Obama ‘Ape...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/west-virginia-official-removed-after-calling-michelle-obama-ape-in-heels_n_582aa3a6e4b060adb5701ff8)** > > One woman made the disgusting comments, while the other said the posts “made \[her\] day.” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/95 "2016-11-16T03:14:12Z")
America will put up with a lot, but you mess with Michelle and its your ass. I would be proud to add her restraining order to my collection. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/96 "2016-11-16T17:28:42Z")
Whoever follows him will get a Nobel Peace Prize! ---
**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/97 "2016-11-16T19:35:35Z")
**Great things about a Trump presidency.** Since I’ve been eligible to vote there have only been two presidential elections that didn’t turn out my way (1992 & 2004), so I’ve spent the better part of my adult life having to defend the president who I helped elect to his detractors. As worried as I am about the next four years, I have to admit that it will be nice to take a break. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/98 "2016-11-16T19:46:23Z")
The only three things I’m hoping for are increased arms sales to allies, an improved military and a conservative SCOTUS. Everything else terrifies or deeply worries me. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/99 "2016-11-16T20:17:00Z")
> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#): > > Whoever follows him will get a Nobel Peace Prize! Don, Jr. will get a Nobel Peace prize? Well, that would be surprising, I must say. ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204/100 "2016-11-16T20:33:53Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > 1. We will probably see the repeal of parts of the NFA (first wrt suppressors and then sbr and sbs) Apparently, we will also see a large proliferation of TLAs. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/great-things-about-a-trump-presidency/771204.md?page=6)