# Greatest living American elimination game (game thread)

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**Created:** [June 16, 2025, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715 "2025-06-16T19:12:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/1 "2025-06-16T19:12:04Z")

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Background: [Greatest living American elimination game (setup thread)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-setup-thread/1019408/1)

Vote for one person each round whom you think is _least_ worthy to be called the greatest living American, and thus should be eliminated from the game. You need not have participated in the setup thread to vote. Thoughtful discussion and civil debate are welcome. No horse-trading, please - each vote should be on the merits.

Voting in our first round will end at noon EST on Weds. June 18.

Our nominees:

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: Athlete, writer, activist  
Buzz Aldrin: Second on Moon  
José Andrés: Humanitarian, chef  
Joe Biden: President, uniter, overcomer  
Simon Biles: GOAT gymnast  
Judy Blume: Children’s literature icon  
Warren Buffett: Level-headed billionaire  
Bob Dylan: Poet of generation  
Anthony Fauci: Physician, immunologist, scientist  
Craig Ferguson: Polymath, director-writer, comedian  
Jim Gaffigan: Comedian, author, commentator  
Bill Gates: Futurist, philanthropist, billionaire  
Amanda Gorman: Poet, activist, prodigy  
Jesse Jackson: Civil rights leader  
Magic Johnson: Superstar, survivor, inspiration  
Mark Kelly: Senator, astronaut, aviator  
Stephen King: Great American writer  
Spike Lee: Filmmaker, Knicks fan  
Jim Lovell: Apollo 13 astronaut  
Amory Lovins: Physicist, energy activist  
Barack Obama: President, statesman, lawyer  
Dolly Parton: Artist, humanitarian  
Mitt Romney: Senator, impeachment juror  
Bernie Sanders: Democratic Socialist leader  
MacKenzie Scott: Philanthropist, prize-winning novelist  
Steven Spielberg: Director, writer, entertainer  
Bruce Springsteen: Singer, songwriter, activist  
Taylor Swift: Musician, songwriter, icon  
Tim Walz: Honorable political messenger  
Elizabeth Warren: Fighting political foes  
Janet Yellen: Economist, Treasury secretary

My vote is for José Andrés, unknown to me before now.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/2 "2025-06-16T19:15:03Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> My vote is for José Andrés, unknown to me before now.

Another vote for José Andrés, for the exact same reason.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/3 "2025-06-16T19:44:36Z")

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Just FYI, Jim Lovell is most notable for Apollo 8, not 13.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/4 "2025-06-16T19:47:16Z")

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Most people know him for Apollo 13, and the movie, I think.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/5 "2025-06-16T19:57:15Z")

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Craig Ferguson

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/6 "2025-06-16T20:00:08Z")

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Janet Yellen, she does very little for me.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/7 "2025-06-16T20:25:17Z")

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Mitt Romney, a failed presidential campaign and then some token resistance (once it was clear he wasn’t going to get a post in the first administration) does not make anybody “great”.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/8 "2025-06-16T21:01:38Z")

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Bruce Springsteen

Are we required to explain why we think our choice isn’t great?

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/9 "2025-06-16T21:28:08Z")

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I’ll admit that I don’t quite get why personally not knowing of someone is evidence of lack of greatness. Especially when compared to mediocre comedians and talk show hosts.

Craig Ferguson for me.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/10 "2025-06-16T22:02:09Z")

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Jim Gaffigan

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/11 "2025-06-16T22:40:17Z")

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I didn’t even know Craig Ferguson was American.

As I look through the list, I look at some names and think “I wouldn’t vote for them, but I can see why someone would.” But as much as I love Jim Gaffigan, I wouldn’t put him anywhere close to Greatest Living American. So my vote is **Jim Gaffigan**.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2025, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/12 "2025-06-16T23:50:50Z")

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A few of these people I haven’t heard of, but, although I find **Jim Gaffigan** somewhat amusing, I agree that he’s over his head in this discussion.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/13 "2025-06-17T00:25:22Z")

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Another for José Andrés.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/14 "2025-06-17T01:26:02Z")

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Another vote for Jim Gaffigan. There are a lot of comedians who are more noteworthy - Jon Stewart immediately pops into my head.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/15 "2025-06-17T02:44:54Z")

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> [@gkster](#):
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> Bruce Springsteen
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> Are we required to explain why we think our choice isn’t great?

As I wrote in the OP, “Thoughtful discussion and civil debate are welcome. No horse-trading, please - each vote should be on the merits.”

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/16 "2025-06-17T02:55:51Z")

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Jim Gaffigan

If somebody passes away mid thread, do we have a double elimination?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/17 "2025-06-17T14:50:25Z")

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My vote this round goes to Gaffigan.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/18 "2025-06-17T19:11:53Z")

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> …If somebody passes away mid thread, do we have a double elimination?

Yes, if somebody dies while the game is underway, I will remove him or her from the list, as that person would no longer be living.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/19 "2025-06-17T19:32:13Z")

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Another vote for Gaffigan. Nothing wrong about him but I don’t see a entertainer as a potential greatest living American.

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**Author:** ![dirtball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dirtball/32/18772_2.png) [@dirtball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirtball)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-living-american-elimination-game-game-thread/1019715/20 "2025-06-18T15:57:53Z")

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I’d say Gaffigan. And I love the guy to death, really. I’ve seen him live a couple of times–if he comes to town, going to the show with my younger daughter is pretty much automatic. But I’d be hard-pressed to say there are any criteria that would qualify him for “greatest.” I doubt that he himself aspires to something that high.

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