Greatest Military Leader elimination game (setup thread)

A few more for consideration:
Moshe Dayan: Eye-patched Israeli commander.
Paul Emil von Lettow-Vorbeck: Evaded the British in Africa.
Orde Wingate: Unorthodox leader in Africa and Asia.
Georgy Zhukov: Led from Moscow to Berlin.
Titokowaru: Beat the British twice.

No. Scientists and inventors, however important and innovative, don’t qualify for this game.

This is just the setup thread. The debates ought to wait for the start of the game.

Most of the greats have already been nominated, but I’ll take advantage of my right to nominate by adding some World War II figures:
George Patton – Armored warfare advocate

Bernard Montgomery – El Alamein Allied Commander

Douglas MacArthur – Returned, then faded away

Charles de Gaulle – Led Free French forces

Erwin Rommel – Germany’s Desert Fox

It’ll be interesting to see the relative influences of the candidates’ ideology and skills on the voting habits of the thread’s participants…

Can we list ours in a couple goes? Hope so. Anyway, I’ll start out with (for now) two Canadians who deserve a spot on the list:

-Sir Isaac Brock: Saved Canada against overwhelming odds.
-Sir Arthur Currie: Vimy Ridge. Only sane WW1 leader?

I can’t get that second one under five words… Anyway, both minor characters by world standards, but excellent and effective. At the very least, they should last awhile while the military leaders who screwed up are eliminated.

Hmmm. Did Uncle Ho ever exercise battlefield command? Wiki is ambiguous.

Jones was briefly an admiral for the Russians but never for the U.S., as you probably know.

Richard H O’Kane - top US submarine captain, WW2.

Gabriel Dumont, Metis guerrilla warfare strategist

That would be Quintus Fabius Maximus Cunctator.

Wouldn’t that be Guderian? Or Churchill?

My bad. I have trouble restraining myself where that individual is concerned.

Fortunately the SDMB limits us to attacks on positions, not people. :slight_smile:

Hrm, who else attacked positions so he didn’t have to attack people?

Sgt. Slaughter - Defeated Iron Sheik.

The Boxers. They were completely intolerant to missionaries.

Some from antiquity:

Attila the Hun: Scourge of God, and Rome.
King Pyrrhus of Epirus: “Alexander, Pyrrhus, then myself” - Hannibal
Flavius Aetius: Scourge of Attila.
Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus: “Stop quoting laws, we carry weapons!”
King Phillip II of Macedon: Alex’s dad, set the stage.

And a bonus if I could:
Stilicho: Battler of the Goths.

Napoleon: “Napoleonic tactics,” anyone?
Genghis Khan: Conqueror, mobile warfare master.
Georgy Zhukov: Combined arms genius.
Gaius Marius: Most important military reforms ever?
Sun Tzu: Arguably history’s most influential military mind.

Honorable mention to Vo Nguyen Giap

Several of you have nominated candidates that others have already nominated. You’re shortchanging yourselves, friends! I suggest you read all the way through the thread and avoid duplicates.

Yamamoto Isoroku - WW2 Japanese Naval Leader
Togo Heihachiro - “The Nelson of the East”
Oda Nobunaga - First Great Unifier of Japan
Albert Kesselring - Defended Italy from Allies
Charles the Bold - Would-be King of Burgundy

Zachary Taylor-American General
Yi-Sun Shin-Korean Admiral
Paul Von Hindenburg-German Field Marshal
Tsao Tsao (also Cao Cao)-Chinese Emperor, General
John S. McCain Sr.-American Admiral

Good ones so far. Still room for more!

Okay my five are…

Alexander the Great conquered the known-world and thensome
fieldmarshal Tito kicked the Germans out Yugoslavia
Curtis LeMay:reorganized the Strategic Air Command
Michiel Adriaenszoon de Ruyter:Dutch Adimiral superstar
Erich von Manstein:his plan conquered france

when does this start?