# Greatest National Leader elimination game (game thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 20, 2010, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098 "2010-05-20T03:40:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/201 "2010-07-02T02:46:24Z")
Almost my sentiments: Hammurabi - 2 Muhammad - 3 ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/202 "2010-07-02T08:26:00Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Under current rules, you may cast no more than three votes against any individual leader (and I’m not just pointing that out because I love Washington!) 😉 :smack: 3 - Washington and I’ll switch my remaining votes 2 - Mohammed. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/203 "2010-07-02T17:35:08Z")
The votes: **Abraham Lincoln - 11** Muhammad - 9 Hammurabi - 6 Alexander the Great - 3 George Washington - 3 Rameses II - 2 The Great Emancipator now, once again, belongs to the ages. That leaves: Alexander the Great - Macedonian conqueror, emperor Caesar Augustus - Founded Roman Empire Cyrus the Great - Great, benevolent conqueror Hammurabi - First written laws Muhammad - United all Arabia Rameses II - Egypt’s greatest pharaoh Qin Shi Huang - Unified China emperor George Washington - First U.S. president The current round of voting will end on Mon. July 5 at noon EST. Same rules as in the previous round: Five votes per player, with no more than three cast against any single leader. Happy Independence Day to you all! ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/204 "2010-07-02T19:05:40Z")
Hammurabi - 2 George Washington - 3 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/205 "2010-07-02T23:49:08Z")
Hammurabi - 2 Muhammad - 3 ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/206 "2010-07-03T00:52:01Z")
After Lincoln’s untimely demise (echoing that of 1865), I’ll just reprise my vote of the last round: Hammurabi – 3 Muhammad – 2 ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/207 "2010-07-03T02:52:33Z")
Alexander 3 Hammurabi 2 Quite possibly Hammur time, sadly. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2010, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/208 "2010-07-03T05:35:36Z")
Muhammad - 3 Qin Shi Huang - 2 ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2010, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/209 "2010-07-03T07:00:25Z")
3 - Washington 2 - Mohammed ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2010, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/210 "2010-07-03T15:16:55Z")
Forgot to ask earlier: what are the merits of Caesar Augustus’s and Gaius Julius Caesar’s claims to be the greatest national leader of Rome? ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/211 "2010-07-05T10:54:39Z")
Julius - massive conquests in Spain and France, Rome’s greatest general, Triumvir, civil reform, laid the foundations for his nephew. Without Julius, there would have been no Augustus. Augustus - ended 100 years of civil ‘competition’, introduced the Imperium, stabilised the Empire - meaning the whole of the Med - and reorganised Roman government, became Emperor. He ushered in an age the effects of which are with us today. Which is the greater depends upon how you value generalship. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/212 "2010-07-05T17:45:26Z")
Might be too late… **Washington** - 3 **Ramses II** - 2 - I’m stubborn. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/213 "2010-07-05T22:15:54Z")
The votes: **Muhammad - 10** Hammurabi - 9 George Washington - 6 Alexander the Great - 3 Qin Shi Huang - 2 **Tamerlane** , yes, sorry, too late. Please vote in the next round! That leaves: Alexander the Great - Macedonian conqueror, emperor Caesar Augustus - Founded Roman Empire Cyrus the Great - Great, benevolent conqueror Hammurabi - First written laws Rameses II - Egypt’s greatest pharaoh Qin Shi Huang - Unified China emperor George Washington - First U.S. president The current round of voting will end on Weds. July 7 at noon EST. Same rules as in the previous round: Five votes per player, with no more than three cast against any single leader. ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/214 "2010-07-06T02:01:16Z")
Sticking with: Hammurabi – 3 Introducing: Cyrus the Great – 2 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/215 "2010-07-06T02:35:38Z")
Thank you, **Quartz** , for that concise comparison of two great Romans. Hammurabi - 3 Qin Shi Huang - 2 ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/216 "2010-07-06T02:57:27Z")
Alex 3 The Hammur 2 ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/217 "2010-07-06T10:54:32Z")
Hammurabi - 2 George Washington - 3 ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/218 "2010-07-07T07:51:42Z")
Washington 3 Alexander 2 ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/219 "2010-07-07T08:08:21Z")
**Washington** - 3 **Ramses II** - 2 ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/220 "2010-07-07T15:06:11Z")
Although it has nothing to do with how this game is “scored,” on a whim I compared survivors with their nominators. Two rounds ago, **Simplicio** was leading with three of the nine finalists due to him. **Elindil’s Heir** was second with two. Now, with only seven leaders left, **Simplicio** is still first with two, and there are five tied at one each ( **Elindil’s Heir** , **Quartz** , **Tom Scud** , **XanderCrews** , and the present poster). (I won’t jinx myself by naming my pony in this race, but am surprised he’s gotten this far. He was whacked early in the 100 Influential Game.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098.md?page=12)