# Greatest National Leader elimination game (game thread)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 20, 2010, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098 "2010-05-20T03:40:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/261 "2010-07-16T20:07:13Z")

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Bye, bye, Caesar Augustus.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/262 "2010-07-16T21:53:16Z")

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Hail Caesar, you who are about to die, salute us!

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/263 "2010-07-16T22:02:27Z")

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Quashing any hopes of a unanimous decision:

Cyrus the Great

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/264 "2010-07-17T03:56:29Z")

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Another vote for Cyrus.

I think maybe my next elimination game will be Greatest Military Leaders.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/265 "2010-07-17T04:08:59Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I think maybe my next elimination game will be Greatest Military Leaders.

Oh, great, something else I can express half-baked opinions on ;).

**Caesar Augustus** - A perfectly fine runner-up.

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**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/266 "2010-07-17T05:21:05Z")

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Down with the bastard! Caesar Augustus.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/267 "2010-07-17T14:58:51Z")

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1 - Cyrus

Augustus was vastly greater.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/268 "2010-07-17T19:30:42Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Oh, great, something else I can express half-baked opinions on ;). …

But of course! 😃 Do you think it should just be about ground commanders, or air and naval commanders as well?

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/269 "2010-07-17T23:01:35Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Do you think it should just be about ground commanders, or air and naval commanders as well?

Oh, I’d throw it open. While a “Greatest Admirals” thread would be interesting ( and allow me to introduce my favorite, [Roger di Lauria](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_of_Lauria), who I probably wouldn’t have room for in a greatest military leaders thread ), it’d be a much smaller list and probably garner both wider general consensus and fewer participants. I sincerely doubt many air force generals would make the list anyway, but at least it potentially leaves room for one or two. And it would also potentially allow for some other neglected specialists like brilliant military engineers such as [Vauban](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vauban) or [Coehoorn](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menno_van_Coehoorn).

However if you are soliciting opinions, I’d request that perhaps a slightly longer description be allowed. Nothing huge - maybe just 5-10 words, instead of three. A short sentence. Three seems awful limiting ( though I realize that is partially the intention ).

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/270 "2010-07-18T16:38:43Z")

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Maybe five, at most, I think. It was indeed my intention to force people to be pithy.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/271 "2010-07-19T11:03:03Z")

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This one was tough, especially with the votes being so close.

Caesar Augustus

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/272 "2010-07-19T16:34:58Z")

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The votes:

Caesar Augustus - 5  
Cyrus the Great - 3

So Cyrus takes the Doper crown as the Greatest National Leader. Whodathunkit?: [Cyrus the Great - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_the_great). Thank you, everyone, for participating. Look for the Greatest Military Leader elimination game in the next couple of weeks.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/273 "2010-07-19T17:03:00Z")

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What would you have done if there had been a tie?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-national-leader-elimination-game-game-thread/540098/274 "2010-07-19T17:54:32Z")

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Hadn’t thought of that. Hmmm. Probably extended the voting period, to give all of you the chance to pass the word to like-minded Doper pals. 😉

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