# Greatest Scientists: Elimination Game

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 5, 2018, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909 "2018-01-05T11:12:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/21 "2018-01-12T19:49:35Z")

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\*\*Be Gone: \*\*  
Fermat, Pierre de  
Feynman, Richard  
Hubble, Edwin  
Neumann, John von  
Leibnitz, Gottfried  
Mendel, Gregor

I’ll save my save for later.

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/22 "2018-01-13T00:42:07Z")

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Blood! More blood!

Edwin Hubble  
Christiaan Huygens  
Antoine van Leeuwenhoek  
Nicola Tesla  
Gregor Mendel  
Richard Feynmann

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/23 "2018-01-13T14:07:35Z")

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Eliminate:

Fermat  
Feynman  
Huygens  
Neumann  
Pauling

Keep:

Eratosthenes  
Leeuwenhoek

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/24 "2018-01-13T14:37:08Z")

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Eliminate:

Fermi, Enrico  
Franklin, Ben  
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van  
Leibnitz  
Mendel, Gregor  
Tesla

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/25 "2018-01-15T09:49:47Z")

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Current votes:  
Feynman, Richard : 4  
Neumann, John von : 4

Fermat, Pierre de : 3  
Hubble, Edwin : 3  
Leibnitz, Gottfried : 3  
Mendel, Gregor : 3  
Pauling, Linus : 3  
Tesla, Nicolai : 3  
Franklin, Benjamin : 2  
Huygens, Christiaan : 2  
Fermi, Enrico : 1  
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie v. : 2-1  
Eratosthenes : 1-1  
In the absence of any new votes, the first two listed above will be Evicted.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/26 "2018-01-15T13:20:18Z")

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Evict:

Fermat, Pierre de  
Hubble, Edwin  
Leibnitz, Gottfried  
Mendel, Gregor  
Pauling, Linus  
Eratosthenes

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/27 "2018-01-15T15:37:42Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> In the absence of any new votes, the first two listed above will be Evicted.

How about evicting those on 3 votes as well?

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/28 "2018-01-15T16:05:01Z")

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I’m not sure Players are aware that **I retain old votes and count them, unless superseded with a new order from that Player.**

For example, **Prof. Pepperwinkle** had votes on Feynman and von Neumann in the previous round and _I included those “old” votes_ in the intermediate count I gave in post #25. He has just posted new votes with those names _deleted_. If he did this because those are “goners” anyway, _he’s mistaken_ — their vote counts just dropped to 3.

> [@Quartz](#):
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> How about evicting those on 3 votes as well?

I have no firm rule for the Eviction threshold, and will try to tune it, as we go, according to pace and participation.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/29 "2018-01-15T19:32:19Z")

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(I’ve received confirmation from the **Professor**.) Final vote counts for the round are  
Fermat, Pierre de : 4  
Leibnitz, Gottfried : 4  
Mendel, Gregor : 4

Feynman, Richard : 3  
Hubble, Edwin : 3  
Neumann, John von : 3  
Pauling, Linus : 3  
Tesla, Nicolai : 3  
Franklin, Benjamin : 2  
Huygens, Christiaan : 2  
Fermi, Enrico : 1  
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie v. : 2-1  
Eratosthenes : 1-1  
Fermat, Leibnitz, and Mendel are gone.

**Round Three is over. Round Four will end about 12:30 pm EST on Wednesday, January 17.  
For Round Four, again you may cast six Evict (elimination) votes and one Keep vote, or five Evicts and two Keeps.**

Thirty-seven Scientists remain in contention:  
300 BC Euclid - math  
287 BC Archimedes - math, physics  
267 BC Eratosthenes - math, astronomy  
1473 Copernicus, Nicolas - astronomy  
1514 Vesalius, Andreas - founder of anatomical sciences  
1564 Galileo - physics, astronomy, etc.  
1571 Kepler, Johannes - astronomy, math  
1627 Boyle, Robert - chemistry, physics  
1629 Huygens, Christiaan - optics, physics  
1632 Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van - microbiology, microscopy  
1642 Newton, Sir Isaac - math, physics  
1706 Franklin, Benjamin - physics, etc.  
1707 Euler, Leonhard - math  
1707 Linnaeus, Carolus - botany, taxonomy  
1743 Lavoisier, Antoine - chemistry  
1745 Volta, Alessandro - chemistry, physics  
1777 Gauss, Karl - math, astronomy  
1791 Faraday, Michael - electromagnetism, etc.  
1809 Darwin, Charles - biology  
1822 Pasteur, Louis - chemistry, biology  
1831 Maxwell, James Clerk - physics  
1834 Mendeleev, Dmitri - chemistry  
1856 Tesla, Nicolai - physics, invention  
1858 Planck, Max - quantum physics  
1867 Curie, Marie - radioactivity  
1871 Rutherford, Ernest - nuclear physics, atomic theory, radioactivity.  
1879 Einstein, Albert - physics  
1885 Bohr, Niels - atomic physics  
1889 Hubble, Edwin - astronomy  
1901 Pauling, Linus - chemistry  
1901 Fermi, Enrico - atomic physics  
1901 Heisenberg, Werner - quantum theory  
1903 Neumann, John von - computer science, etc.  
1912 Turing, Alan - computer science, etc.  
1914 Salk, Jonas - medicine, vaccination  
1918 Feynman, Richard - physics  
1928 Watson, James - Dna

Top Fifty Scientists who have already been Eliminated:  
38. Leibnitz, Gottfried - math, physics, etc.  
39. Mendel, Gregor - genetics  
40. Fermat, Pierre de - math, optics  
41. Franklin, Rosalind - chemistry, X-ray crystallography  
42. Boas, Franz - anthropology  
43. Bernard, Claude - physiology  
44. Meitner, Lise - atomic physics  
45. Aristotle - philosophy, geology, biology, etc.  
46. Liebig, Justus von - organic chemistry  
47. Alhazen Ibn al-Haytham - physics, etc.  
48. Boltzmann, Ludwig - thermodynamics  
49. Lyell, Charles - geology  
50. Dirac, Paul - physics

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/30 "2018-01-15T20:24:52Z")

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Evict:

Feynman, Richard  
Neumann, John von  
Pauling, Linus  
Mendeleev, Dmitri  
Lavoisiere, Antoine  
Eratosthenes

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/31 "2018-01-15T21:23:12Z")

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Eliminate:

Feynman  
Huygens  
Neumann  
Pauling  
Tesla

Keep:

Leeuwenhoek  
Mendeleev

Getting tougher and tougher to cut – I’d have spared Tesla from eviction and retained Eratosthenes as a “save” had I had a 4/3 option.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/32 "2018-01-17T06:11:00Z")

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With less than 12 hours to go, the vote counts are  
Feynman, Richard : 4  
Neumann, John von : 4  
Tesla, Nicolai : 4

Pauling, Linus : 3

Franklin, Benjamin : 2  
Hubble, Edwin : 2  
Huygens, Christiaan : 2  
Fermi, Enrico : 1  
Lavoisier, Antoine : 1  
Mendeleev, Dmitri : 1  
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie v. : 2-1  
Eratosthenes : 1-1  
Things are getting bloody! Last round two key inventors of the infinitesimal calculus were evicted along with the man who discovered how Darwinian evolution was possible. This round we’re en route to eliminating two of the very greatest geniuses born in the 20th century, along with a man who in popular surveys is often called “greatest scientist (or geek) ever.”

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/33 "2018-01-17T07:05:09Z")

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Oops! :o I failed to record Keep votes properly. Two lines in the vote summary need correction:  
Mendeleev, Dmitri : 1-1  
Eratosthenes : 1  
(This doesn’t affect the vote leaders.)

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/34 "2018-01-17T13:11:03Z")

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**Eliminate** :  
Feynman  
Neumann  
Turing  
Hubble  
Pauling  
Leeuwenhoek

**Keep** :  
Tesla

It is nearly time for \*\*Tesla \*\*to depart, but not yet. He still added more to science and in leaps and bounds ahead of some of the the others still on the list. He may not be one of the all time greatest, but he deserves the next circle.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/35 "2018-01-17T17:27:43Z")

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Eliminated:  
**[del]Feynman, Richard[/del]  
[del]Neumann, John von[/del]  
[del]Pauling, Linus[/del]**

**Round Four is over. Round Five will end about 12:30 pm EST on Friday, January 19.  
For Round Four, again you may cast six Evict (elimination) votes and one Keep vote, or five Evicts and two Keeps.**_Participation is very low_. I’ve PM’ed all the participants in the previous thread (except the two with PMs disabled). _Please ask your friends to show up and vote!_

Thirty-four Scientists remain in contention:  
**Archimedes - math, physics  
Bohr, Niels - atomic physics  
Boyle, Robert - chemistry, physics  
Copernicus, Nicolas - astronomy  
Curie, Marie - radioactivity  
Darwin, Charles - biology  
Einstein, Albert - physics  
Eratosthenes - math, astronomy  
Euclid - math  
Euler, Leonhard - math  
Faraday, Michael - electromagnetism, etc.  
Fermi, Enrico - atomic physics  
Franklin, Benjamin - physics, etc.  
Galileo - physics, astronomy, etc.  
Gauss, Karl - math, astronomy  
Heisenberg, Werner - quantum theory  
Hubble, Edwin - astronomy  
Huygens, Christiaan - optics, physics  
Kepler, Johannes - astronomy, math  
Lavoisier, Antoine - chemistry  
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van - microbiology, microscopy  
Linnaeus, Carolus - botany, taxonomy  
Maxwell, James Clerk - physics  
Mendeleev, Dmitri - chemistry  
Newton, Sir Isaac - math, physics  
Pasteur, Louis - chemistry, biology  
Planck, Max - quantum physics  
Rutherford, Ernest - nuclear physics, atomic theory, radioactivity.  
Salk, Jonas - medicine, vaccination  
Tesla, Nicolai - physics, invention  
Turing, Alan - computer science, etc.  
Vesalius, Andreas - founder of anatomical sciences  
Volta, Alessandro - chemistry, physics  
Watson, James - Dna**  
Top Fifty Scientists who have already been Eliminated:  
35. Feynman, Richard - physics  
36. Neumann, John von - computer science, etc.  
37. Pauling, Linus - chemistry  
38. Leibnitz, Gottfried - math, physics, etc.  
39. Mendel, Gregor - genetics  
40. Fermat, Pierre de - math, optics  
41. Franklin, Rosalind - chemistry, X-ray crystallography  
42. Boas, Franz - anthropology  
43. Bernard, Claude - physiology  
44. Meitner, Lise - atomic physics  
45. Aristotle - philosophy, geology, biology, etc.  
46. Liebig, Justus von - organic chemistry  
47. Alhazen Ibn al-Haytham - physics, etc.  
48. Boltzmann, Ludwig - thermodynamics  
49. Lyell, Charles - geology  
50. Dirac, Paul - physics

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/36 "2018-01-17T18:16:04Z")

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Evict:

Eratosthenes  
Bohr, Niels  
Lavoisier, Antoine  
Mendeleev, Dmitri  
Gauss, Karl  
Franklin, Benjamin

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/37 "2018-01-17T18:45:41Z")

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Eliminate:

Gauss  
Hubble  
Huygens  
Tesla  
Turing

Keep:

Leeuwenhoek  
Mendeleev

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/38 "2018-01-19T12:58:35Z")

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Current votes are  
Franklin, Benjamin : 3  
Hubble, Edwin : 3  
Tesla, Nicolai : 4-1

Gauss, Karl : 2  
Huygens, Christiaan : 2  
Turing, Alan : 2  
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie v. : 3-1  
Bohr, Niels : 1  
Eratosthenes : 1  
Fermi, Enrico : 1  
Lavoisier, Antoine : 1  
Mendeleev, Dmitri : 1-1  
However, participation has become very low. Unless we get at least one more active participant, I think I’ll postpone the end of Round Five until next week.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/39 "2018-01-22T16:28:13Z")

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Eliminated:  
**[del]Franklin, Benjamin[/del]  
[del]Hubble, Edwin[/del]  
[del]Tesla, Nicolai[/del]  
[del]Gauss, Karl[/del] (\*)**

**Round Five is over. Round Six will end about 11:40 pm EST on Wednesday, January 24.  
Let’s increase the vote pace slightly: For Round Six, you may cast seven Evict (elimination) votes and one Keep vote, or six Evicts and two Keeps.** I am open to suggestion on other ways to continue this game. (\* - Gauss received only two votes, but they were both recent votes.)

Thirty Scientists remain in contention:  
**Archimedes - math, physics  
Bohr, Niels - atomic physics  
Boyle, Robert - chemistry, physics  
Copernicus, Nicolas - astronomy  
Curie, Marie - radioactivity  
Darwin, Charles - biology  
Einstein, Albert - physics  
Eratosthenes - math, astronomy  
Euclid - math  
Euler, Leonhard - math  
Faraday, Michael - electromagnetism, etc.  
Fermi, Enrico - atomic physics  
Galileo - physics, astronomy, etc.  
Heisenberg, Werner - quantum theory  
Huygens, Christiaan - optics, physics  
Kepler, Johannes - astronomy, math  
Lavoisier, Antoine - chemistry  
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van - microbiology, microscopy  
Linnaeus, Carolus - botany, taxonomy  
Maxwell, James Clerk - physics  
Mendeleev, Dmitri - chemistry  
Newton, Sir Isaac - math, physics  
Pasteur, Louis - chemistry, biology  
Planck, Max - quantum physics  
Rutherford, Ernest - nuclear physics, atomic theory, radioactivity.  
Salk, Jonas - medicine, vaccination  
Turing, Alan - computer science, etc.  
Vesalius, Andreas - founder of anatomical sciences  
Volta, Alessandro - chemistry, physics  
Watson, James - Dna**  
Top Fifty Scientists who have already been Eliminated:  
31. Gauss, Karl  
32. Tesla, Nicolai  
33. Franklin, Benjamin  
34. Hubble, Edwin  
35. Feynman, Richard - physics  
36. Neumann, John von - computer science, etc.  
37. Pauling, Linus - chemistry  
38. Leibnitz, Gottfried - math, physics, etc.  
39. Mendel, Gregor - genetics  
40. Fermat, Pierre de - math, optics  
41. Franklin, Rosalind - chemistry, X-ray crystallography  
42. Boas, Franz - anthropology  
43. Bernard, Claude - physiology  
44. Meitner, Lise - atomic physics  
45. Aristotle - philosophy, geology, biology, etc.  
46. Liebig, Justus von - organic chemistry  
47. Alhazen Ibn al-Haytham - physics, etc.  
48. Boltzmann, Ludwig - thermodynamics  
49. Lyell, Charles - geology  
50. Dirac, Paul - physics

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-elimination-game/805909/40 "2018-01-22T21:00:39Z")

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Eliminate:

Curie  
Huygens  
Maxwell  
Turing  
Vesalius  
Watson  
Keep:

Leeuwenhoek  
Mendeleev

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