# Greatest Scientists Ever: Elimination Game

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**Created:** [November 5, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825 "2017-11-05T21:08:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2017, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/201 "2017-11-24T07:20:19Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Have fun!
> 
> If you wish you may PM me (or post here) a _prioritized_ list of dozens of votes. I will cross out those already eliminated and, each round, take your complement of votes from the top of your list.

That’s very kind of you, and if I manage to lever my family members off the computer where I stored my obscurer scientists notes at any time this evening, I will certainly take you up on it!

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/202 "2017-11-24T17:59:46Z")

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With one hour to deadline, here are the scientists with two or more votes (whether Evict or Keep):  
McClintock, Barbara : 5  
Dirac, Paul : 3  
Doppler, Christian : 3  
Hawking, Stephen : 3  
Smith, William : 3

Bardeen, John : 2  
Berzelius, Jacob : 2  
Eratosthenes : 2  
Galen, of Pergamon : 2  
Gell-Mann, Murray : 2  
Hutton, James : 2  
Noether, Emmy : 2  
Schrodinger, Erwin : 2  
Borlaug, Norman : 3-1 = 1.99  
Meitner, Lise : 3-1 = 1.99  
Tesla, Nicolai : 3-1 = 1.99

Al-Biruni, Abu Rayhan Muhammad : 3-2 = 0.99  
Leakey, Louis : 2-1 = 0.99  
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van : 2-1 = 0.99

Franklin, Benjamin : 1-4 = -3

If the voting does not change, the first five names listed above will be Eliminated.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/203 "2017-11-24T18:58:24Z")

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\*\*Elimination Round #8 is over.

The next Vote-counting Elimination will be on Monday, Nov. 27 at 2 pm EST.  
Five scientists were eliminated this round: those shown in the preceding post.

For the next round each player has ten votes total: eight Evict votes, one Keep vote, and a tenth vote which can be spent as either Evict or Keep.\*\*

There are 66 scientists remaining on the list. (We’re making progress! More than half of our nominated scientists have been evicted already.)

**Official Scientists List:**

Agassiz, Louis - biology, geology  
Al-Biruni, Abu Rayhan Muhammad - natural philosophy  
Al-Khwarizmi, Muhammad ibn Musa - math, astronomy  
Archimedes - math, physics  
Bardeen, John - physics, invention  
Bernard, Claude - physiology  
Berzelius, Jacob - chemistry  
Boas, Franz - anthropology  
Bohr, Niels - atomic physics  
Borlaug, Norman - agronomics  
Boyle, Robert - chemistry, physics  
Copernicus, Nicolas - astronomy  
Crick, Francis - Dna  
Curie, Marie - radioactivity  
Dalton, John - chemistry  
Darwin, Charles - biology  
Einstein, Albert - physics  
Eratosthenes - math, astronomy  
Euclid - math  
Euler, Leonhard - math  
Faraday, Michael - electromagnetism, etc.  
Fermat, Pierre de - math, optics  
Fermi, Enrico - atomic physics  
Feynman, Richard - physics  
Franklin, Benjamin - physics, etc.  
Franklin, Rosalind - chemistry, X-ray crystallography  
Galen, of Pergamon - biology, medicine  
Galileo - physics, astronomy, etc.  
Gauss, Karl - math, astronomy  
Gell-Mann, Murray - physics  
Heisenberg, Werner - quantum theory  
Hilleman, Maurice - biology, vaccination; saved more lives  
Hubble, Edwin - astronomy  
Hutton, James - geologist  
Huygens, Christiaan - optics, physics  
Jenner, Edward - vaccination  
Kepler, Johannes - astronomy, math  
Lavoisier, Antoine - chemistry  
Leakey, Louis - anthropology  
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van - microbiology, microscopy  
Leibnitz, Gottfried - math, physics, etc.  
Linnaeus, Carolus - botany, taxonomy  
Mach, Ernst - physics, cosmology  
Maxwell, James Clerk - physics  
Meitner, Lise - atomic physics  
Mendel, Gregor - genetics  
Mendeleev, Dmitri - chemistry  
Michelson, Albert - astronomy; speed of light  
Neumann, John von - computer science, etc.  
Newton, Sir Isaac - math, physics  
Noether, Emmy - math  
Pasteur, Louis - chemistry, biology  
Pauli, Wolfgang - quantum physics  
Pauling, Linus - chemistry  
Planck, Max - quantum physics  
Poincare, Henri - math  
Ptolemy - astronomy  
Rutherford, Ernest - nuclear physics, atomic theory, radioactivity.  
Salk, Jonas - medicine, vaccination  
Schrodinger, Erwin - wave mechanics  
Tesla, Nicolai - physics, invention  
Turing, Alan - computer science, etc.  
Vesalius, Andreas - founder of anatomical sciences  
Volta, Alessandro - chemistry, physics  
Watson, James - Dna  
Wegener, Alfred - meteorology, continental drift  
Eliminated:  
[del]Alhazen Ibn al-Haytham - physics, etc.[/del] 11/15  
[del]Anning, Mary - paleontology[/del] 11/15  
[del]Aristotle - philosophy, geology, biology, etc.[/del] 11/17  
[del]Arrow, Kenneth - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Babbage, Charles - computer science[/del] 11/20  
[del]Bacon, Francis - philosophy[/del] 11/17  
[del]Boltzmann, Ludwig - thermodynamics[/del] 11/20  
[del]Brahmagupta - math, astronomy[/del] 11/20  
[del]Braun, Wernher von - rocket science[/del] 11/13  
[del]Bruno, Giordano - philosophy[/del] 11/15  
[del]Cannon, Annie Jump - astronomy[/del] 11/20  
[del]Davy, Sir Humphrey - chemistry[/del] 11/22  
[del]Dirac, Paul - physics[/del] 11/24  
[del]Doppler, Christian - physics[/del] 11/24  
[del]Edison, Thomas Alva - invention[/del] 11/09  
[del]Fleming, Sir Alexander - medicine, biology[/del] 11/20  
[del]Freud, Sigmund - psychology[/del] 11/09  
[del]Friedman, Milton - economics[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ge Hong - philosophy, alchemy[/del] 11/09  
[del]Goddard, Robert - rocket science[/del] 11/13  
[del]Godel, Kurt - math[/del] 11/17  
[del]Goethe, Johann Wolfgang von - natural philosophy[/del] 11/13  
[del]Goodall, Jane - primatology[/del] 11/15  
[del]Gutenberg, Johannes - invention[/del] 11/11  
[del]Haber, Fritz - chemistry; invention (fertilizer, gas warfare)[/del] 11/15  
[del]Halley, Edmond - astronomy, etc.[/del] 11/13  
[del]Hamilton, William - astronomy, optics, math[/del] 11/15  
[del]Harvey, William - anatomy, blood[/del] 11/22  
[del]Hawking, Stephen - cosmology[/del] 11/24  
[del]Hipparchus, of Nicaea - astronomy, etc.[/del] 11/22  
[del]Hippocrates, of Cos - medicine[/del] 11/20  
[del]Hopper, Grace - computer science[/del] 11/15  
[del]Ibn al-Nafis - anatomy, blood[/del] 11/15  
[del]Jung, Carl - psychology[/del] 11/11  
[del]Keynes, John Maynard - economics[/del] 11/13  
[del]Lamarr, Hedy - invention[/del] 11/11  
[del]Leavitt, Henrietta Swan - astronomy[/del] 11/22  
[del]Leonardo da Vinci - anatomy, invention, etc.[/del] 11/15  
[del]Liebig, Justus von - organic chemistry; a great practical scientist.[/del] 11/17  
[del]Lister, Joseph - antiseptics[/del] 11/17  
[del]Lovelace, Ada Byron Countess of - computer science[/del] 11/22  
[del]Lyell, Charles - geology[/del] 11/20  
[del]Marconi, Guglielmo - radio transmission[/del] 11/15  
[del]Marsh, Othneil = paleontology[/del] 11/17  
[del]McClintock, Barbara - genetics[/del] 11/24  
[del]Mead, Margaret - anthropology[/del] 11/20  
[del]Morley, Edward - astronomy, chemistry, optics, and physics.[/del] 11/17  
[del]Mullis, Kary - biology[/del] 11/17  
[del]Nisibis, St. Jacob of - theology, founded early school[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ockham, William of - philosophy[/del] 11/11  
[del]Oppenheimer, Robert - atomic physics[/del] 11/20  
[del]Patterson. Clair - geochemistry[/del] 11/15  
[del]Pythagoras - math[/del] 11/17  
[del]Ricardo, David - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Rubin, Vera - astronomy[/del] 11/15  
[del]Russell, Bertrand - math[/del] 11/17  
[del]Sagan, Carl - astronomy[/del] 11/09  
[del]Sakharov, Andrei - nuclear physics[/del] 11/13  
[del]Samuelson, Paul - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Semmelweis, Ignaz - antiseptics[/del] 11/17  
[del]Shannon, Claude - computer science[/del] 11/20  
[del]Smith, Adam - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Smith, William - geology[/del] 11/24  
[del]Thales, of Miletus - math[/del] 11/20  
[del]Thorne, Kip - physics[/del] 11/20  
[del]Tyson, Neil deGrasse - astrophysics, science popularizer[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ventner, Craig - genetics[/del] 11/15  
[del]Virchow, Rudolf - medicine, cell doctrine, etc.[/del] 11/13  
[del]Wigner, Eugene - physics, symmetry[/del] 11/17  
[del]Zhang Heng - astronomy, mechanics[/del] 11/22

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/204 "2017-11-27T10:59:33Z")

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Players are still too stuffed with turkey to vote? 😛 Deadline is in 8 hours.

Only **Aspidistra** has changed his votes this round. (He did it with a PM’ed prioritized list. The rest of you are welcome to do the same if you wish.) He placed new Evict votes on Michelson, Noether, and Gell-Mann; and moved his Keep vote from Al-Biruni to Meitner. Otherwise vote counts are much the same as in #202.

As is, Noether and Gell-Mann are headed for elimination.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/205 "2017-11-27T13:40:04Z")

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Eliminate:

Al-Biruni  
Al-Khwarizmi  
Bardeen  
Bernard  
Gell-Mann  
Meitner  
Noether  
Poincare

Keep:

Leakey  
Leeuwenhoek

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/206 "2017-11-27T15:23:02Z")

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Evict

Al-Biruni, Abu Rayhan Muhammad - natural philosophy  
Al-Khwarizmi, Muhammad ibn Musa - math, astronomy  
Bardeen, John - physics, invention  
Bernard, Claude - physiology  
Leakey, Louis - anthropology  
Leibnitz, Gottfried - math, physics, etc.  
Noether, Emmy - math  
Pauli, Wolfgang - quantum physics  
Pauling, Linus - chemistry

Keep:  
Newton, Sir Isaac

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/207 "2017-11-27T19:14:49Z")

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Scientists getting two or more votes are:  
_Noether, Emmy_ : 4  
_Al-Khwarizmi, Muhammad ibn Musa_ : 3  
_Bardeen, John_ : 3  
_Gell-Mann, Murray_ : 3

Galen, of Pergamon : 2  
Pauling, Linus : 2  
Bernard, Claude : 2  
Schrodinger, Erwin : 2  
Michelson, Albert : 2  
Al-Biruni, Abu Rayhan Muhammad : 3-1 = 1.99  
Leakey, Louis : 3-1 = 1.99  
Tesla, Nicolai : 3-1 = 1.99

Borlaug, Norman : 2-1 = 0.99  
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van : 2-1 = 0.99  
Meitner, Lise : 3-2 = 0.99

Franklin, Benjamin : 1-4 = -3

The first four above (those with 3 or more votes) are Eliminated.

\*\*Elimination Round #9 is over.

The next Vote-counting Elimination will be on Wednesday, Nov. 29 at 2 pm EST.  
For the next round each player has ten votes total: eight Evict votes, one Keep vote, and a tenth vote which can be spent as either Evict or Keep.\*\*

There are 62 scientists remaining on the list

**Official Scientists List:**

Agassiz, Louis - biology, geology  
Al-Biruni, Abu Rayhan Muhammad - natural philosophy  
Archimedes - math, physics  
Bernard, Claude - physiology  
Berzelius, Jacob - chemistry  
Boas, Franz - anthropology  
Bohr, Niels - atomic physics  
Borlaug, Norman - agronomics  
Boyle, Robert - chemistry, physics  
Copernicus, Nicolas - astronomy  
Crick, Francis - Dna  
Curie, Marie - radioactivity  
Dalton, John - chemistry  
Darwin, Charles - biology  
Einstein, Albert - physics  
Eratosthenes - math, astronomy  
Euclid - math  
Euler, Leonhard - math  
Faraday, Michael - electromagnetism, etc.  
Fermat, Pierre de - math, optics  
Fermi, Enrico - atomic physics  
Feynman, Richard - physics  
Franklin, Benjamin - physics, etc.  
Franklin, Rosalind - chemistry, X-ray crystallography  
Galen, of Pergamon - biology, medicine  
Galileo - physics, astronomy, etc.  
Gauss, Karl - math, astronomy  
Heisenberg, Werner - quantum theory  
Hilleman, Maurice - biology, vaccination; saved more lives  
Hubble, Edwin - astronomy  
Hutton, James - geologist  
Huygens, Christiaan - optics, physics  
Jenner, Edward - vaccination  
Kepler, Johannes - astronomy, math  
Lavoisier, Antoine - chemistry  
Leakey, Louis - anthropology  
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van - microbiology, microscopy  
Leibnitz, Gottfried - math, physics, etc.  
Linnaeus, Carolus - botany, taxonomy  
Mach, Ernst - physics, cosmology  
Maxwell, James Clerk - physics  
Meitner, Lise - atomic physics  
Mendel, Gregor - genetics  
Mendeleev, Dmitri - chemistry  
Michelson, Albert - astronomy; speed of light  
Neumann, John von - computer science, etc.  
Newton, Sir Isaac - math, physics  
Pasteur, Louis - chemistry, biology  
Pauli, Wolfgang - quantum physics  
Pauling, Linus - chemistry  
Planck, Max - quantum physics  
Poincare, Henri - math  
Ptolemy - astronomy  
Rutherford, Ernest - nuclear physics, atomic theory, radioactivity.  
Salk, Jonas - medicine, vaccination  
Schrodinger, Erwin - wave mechanics  
Tesla, Nicolai - physics, invention  
Turing, Alan - computer science, etc.  
Vesalius, Andreas - founder of anatomical sciences  
Volta, Alessandro - chemistry, physics  
Watson, James - Dna  
Wegener, Alfred - meteorology, continental drift  
Eliminated:  
[del]Al-Khwarizmi, Muhammad ibn Musa - math, astronomy[/del] 11/27  
[del]Alhazen Ibn al-Haytham - physics, etc.[/del] 11/15  
[del]Anning, Mary - paleontology[/del] 11/15  
[del]Aristotle - philosophy, geology, biology, etc.[/del] 11/17  
[del]Arrow, Kenneth - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Babbage, Charles - computer science[/del] 11/20  
[del]Bacon, Francis - philosophy[/del] 11/17  
[del]Bardeen, John - physics, invention[/del] 11/27  
[del]Boltzmann, Ludwig - thermodynamics[/del] 11/20  
[del]Brahmagupta - math, astronomy[/del] 11/20  
[del]Braun, Wernher von - rocket science[/del] 11/13  
[del]Bruno, Giordano - philosophy[/del] 11/15  
[del]Cannon, Annie Jump - astronomy[/del] 11/20  
[del]Davy, Sir Humphrey - chemistry[/del] 11/22  
[del]Dirac, Paul - physics[/del] 11/24  
[del]Doppler, Christian - physics[/del] 11/24  
[del]Edison, Thomas Alva - invention[/del] 11/09  
[del]Fleming, Sir Alexander - medicine, biology[/del] 11/20  
[del]Freud, Sigmund - psychology[/del] 11/09  
[del]Friedman, Milton - economics[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ge Hong - philosophy, alchemy[/del] 11/09  
[del]Gell-Mann, Murray - physics[/del] 11/27  
[del]Goddard, Robert - rocket science[/del] 11/13  
[del]Godel, Kurt - math[/del] 11/17  
[del]Goethe, Johann Wolfgang von - natural philosophy[/del] 11/13  
[del]Goodall, Jane - primatology[/del] 11/15  
[del]Gutenberg, Johannes - invention[/del] 11/11  
[del]Haber, Fritz - chemistry; invention (fertilizer, gas warfare)[/del] 11/15  
[del]Halley, Edmond - astronomy, etc.[/del] 11/13  
[del]Hamilton, William - astronomy, optics, math[/del] 11/15  
[del]Harvey, William - anatomy, blood[/del] 11/22  
[del]Hawking, Stephen - cosmology[/del] 11/24  
[del]Hipparchus, of Nicaea - astronomy, etc.[/del] 11/22  
[del]Hippocrates, of Cos - medicine[/del] 11/20  
[del]Hopper, Grace - computer science[/del] 11/15  
[del]Ibn al-Nafis - anatomy, blood[/del] 11/15  
[del]Jung, Carl - psychology[/del] 11/11  
[del]Keynes, John Maynard - economics[/del] 11/13  
[del]Lamarr, Hedy - invention[/del] 11/11  
[del]Leavitt, Henrietta Swan - astronomy[/del] 11/22  
[del]Leonardo da Vinci - anatomy, invention, etc.[/del] 11/15  
[del]Liebig, Justus von - organic chemistry; a great practical scientist.[/del] 11/17  
[del]Lister, Joseph - antiseptics[/del] 11/17  
[del]Lovelace, Ada Byron Countess of - computer science[/del] 11/22  
[del]Lyell, Charles - geology[/del] 11/20  
[del]Marconi, Guglielmo - radio transmission[/del] 11/15  
[del]Marsh, Othneil = paleontology[/del] 11/17  
[del]McClintock, Barbara - genetics[/del] 11/24  
[del]Mead, Margaret - anthropology[/del] 11/20  
[del]Morley, Edward - astronomy, chemistry, optics, and physics.[/del] 11/17  
[del]Mullis, Kary - biology[/del] 11/17  
[del]Nisibis, St. Jacob of - theology, founded early school[/del] 11/09  
[del]Noether, Emmy - math[/del] 11/27  
[del]Ockham, William of - philosophy[/del] 11/11  
[del]Oppenheimer, Robert - atomic physics[/del] 11/20  
[del]Patterson. Clair - geochemistry[/del] 11/15  
[del]Pythagoras - math[/del] 11/17  
[del]Ricardo, David - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Rubin, Vera - astronomy[/del] 11/15  
[del]Russell, Bertrand - math[/del] 11/17  
[del]Sagan, Carl - astronomy[/del] 11/09  
[del]Sakharov, Andrei - nuclear physics[/del] 11/13  
[del]Samuelson, Paul - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Semmelweis, Ignaz - antiseptics[/del] 11/17  
[del]Shannon, Claude - computer science[/del] 11/20  
[del]Smith, Adam - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Smith, William - geology[/del] 11/24  
[del]Thales, of Miletus - math[/del] 11/20  
[del]Thorne, Kip - physics[/del] 11/20  
[del]Tyson, Neil deGrasse - astrophysics, science popularizer[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ventner, Craig - genetics[/del] 11/15  
[del]Virchow, Rudolf - medicine, cell doctrine, etc.[/del] 11/13  
[del]Wigner, Eugene - physics, symmetry[/del] 11/17  
[del]Zhang Heng - astronomy, mechanics[/del] 11/22

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/208 "2017-11-28T21:18:52Z")

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Eliminate:

Al-Biruni  
Bernard  
Berzelius  
Hilleman  
Meitner  
Pauli  
Poincare  
Wegener

Keep:

Leakey  
Leeuwenhoek

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/209 "2017-11-28T22:08:21Z")

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Evict:

Al-Biruni  
Bernard  
Berzelius  
Hilleman  
Meitner  
Pauli  
Poincare  
Rutherford  
Wegener

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/210 "2017-11-29T00:54:10Z")

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With **Aspidistra** adding Salk, Jenner, Huygens, Michelson to his automated votes; scientists with two or more active votes at present are:Berzelius, Jacob : 3  
Hilleman, Maurice : 3  
Wegener, Alfred : 3

Bernard, Claude : 2  
Galen, of Pergamon : 2  
Jenner, Edward : 2  
Michelson, Albert : 2  
Pauli, Wolfgang : 2  
Poincare, Henri : 2  
Schrodinger, Erwin : 2

Al-Biruni, Abu Rayhan Muhammad : 3-1 = 1.99  
Meitner, Lise : 4-2 = 1.99  
Tesla, Nicolai : 3-1 = 1.99

Borlaug, Norman : 2-1 = 0.99  
Leakey, Louis : 2-1 = 0.99  
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van : 2-1 = 0.99

Franklin, Benjamin : 1-4 = -3

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/211 "2017-11-29T06:40:03Z")

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Keep

Hilleman

Eliminate

Tesla  
Poincare  
Ptolemy  
Mach, Ernst

Honestly, this is hard to get my head around. FWIW, here’s a couple of lists of scientists:

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/212 "2017-11-29T07:16:22Z")

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After, reading about [the germ theory of disease](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_of_disease), I’m disappointed that nobody nominated ((([John Snow](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_of_disease)))) one of the fathers of epidemiology and the data scientist who established that cholera wasn’t due to miasma, but rather filthy water.

Along the same lines I nominate (((Louis Pasteur))) for the top 10 list.

And, reversing myself above, I vote:

Keep Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/213 "2017-11-29T12:03:11Z")

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@ **Measure for Measure** : You’re entitled to eight Evict votes if you want them, along with two Keeps. Just to double-check I have you down as this:

> [@](#):
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> EVICT Tesla  
> EVICT Poincare  
> EVICT Ptolemy  
> EVICT Mach
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> KEEP Hilleman  
> KEEP Leeuwenhoek

I keep old votes pending unless they are explicitly rescinded, so **Measure for Measure** ’s vote, rescinding his old votes, had a big effect. Hilleman is out of the hot seat, replaced by Poincare and Al-Biruni. The current counts are now:  
Al-Biruni, Abu Rayhan Muhammad : 3  
Berzelius, Jacob : 3  
Poincare, Henri : 3  
Wegener, Alfred : 3

Bernard, Claude : 2  
Borlaug, Norman : 2  
Galen, of Pergamon : 2  
Jenner, Edward : 2  
Mach, Ernst : 2  
Michelson, Albert : 2  
Pauli, Wolfgang : 2  
Ptolemy : 2  
Schrodinger, Erwin : 2

Hilleman, Maurice : 3-1 = 1.99  
Tesla, Nicolai : 3-1 = 1.99

Leakey, Louis : 2-1 = 0.99  
Meitner, Lise : 3-2 = 0.99

Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van : 1-2 = -1  
Franklin, Benjamin : 1-4 = -3

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/214 "2017-11-29T18:40:32Z")

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\*\*Elimination Round #10 is over.

The next Vote-counting Elimination will be on Friday, Dec. 1 at about 2 pm EST.  
For the next round each player has nine votes total: seven Evict votes, one Keep vote, and a ninth vote which can be spent as either Evict or Keep.\*\*

There are now just 58 scientists remaining on the list. To reduce clutter I’ll just show the latest deletions:  
[del]Al-Biruni, Abu Rayhan Muhammad - natural philosophy[/del] 11/29  
[del]Berzelius, Jacob - chemistry[/del] 11/29  
[del]Poincare, Henri - math[/del] 11/29  
[del]Wegener, Alfred - meteorology, continental drift[/del] 11/29

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/215 "2017-11-29T19:35:11Z")

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Evict:

Bernard, Claude  
Borlaug, Norman  
Galen, of Pergamon  
Jenner, Edward  
Mach, Ernst  
Michelson, Albert  
Pauli, Wolfgang  
Schrodinger, Erwin

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/216 "2017-12-01T04:56:15Z")

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Eliminate:

Bernard  
Dalton  
Feynman  
Franklin, Rosalind  
Hilleman  
Meitner  
Pauli

Keep:

Leakey  
Leeuwenhoek

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/217 "2017-12-01T14:24:22Z")

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Voting for this round ends in 4 hours and a half. Currently these scientists have 2 or more votes:  
Borlaug, Norman : 3  
Galen, of Pergamon : 3  
Jenner, Edward : 3  
Mach, Ernst : 3  
Michelson, Albert : 3  
Schrodinger, Erwin : 3

Bernard, Claude : 2  
Dalton, John : 2  
Pauli, Wolfgang : 2  
Ptolemy : 2  
Tesla, Nicolai : 3-1 = 1.99

Hilleman, Maurice : 2-1 = 0.99  
Leakey, Louis : 2-1 = 0.99

Meitner, Lise : 2-2 = 0  
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van : 1-2 = -1  
Franklin, Benjamin : 1-4 = -3

We’ll want to take a long break for the Holidays, but I suppose we should keep going for at least another week. Thoughts?

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/218 "2017-12-01T18:29:36Z")

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\*\*Elimination Round #11 is over. The six with 3 votes are eliminated (see #217.)

The next Vote-counting Elimination will be on Monday, Dec. 4 at about 1 pm EST. (Note the earlier end time.)  
For the next round each player has nine votes total: seven Evict votes, one Keep vote, and a ninth vote which can be spent as either Evict or Keep.\*\*

There are now just 52 scientists remaining on the list.

Agassiz, Louis - biology, geology  
Archimedes - math, physics  
Bernard, Claude - physiology  
Boas, Franz - anthropology  
Bohr, Niels - atomic physics  
Boyle, Robert - chemistry, physics  
Copernicus, Nicolas - astronomy  
Crick, Francis - Dna  
Curie, Marie - radioactivity  
Dalton, John - chemistry  
Darwin, Charles - biology  
Einstein, Albert - physics  
Eratosthenes - math, astronomy  
Euclid - math  
Euler, Leonhard - math  
Faraday, Michael - electromagnetism, etc.  
Fermat, Pierre de - math, optics  
Fermi, Enrico - atomic physics  
Feynman, Richard - physics  
Franklin, Benjamin - physics, etc.  
Franklin, Rosalind - chemistry, X-ray crystallography  
Galileo - physics, astronomy, etc.  
Gauss, Karl - math, astronomy  
Heisenberg, Werner - quantum theory  
Hilleman, Maurice - biology, vaccination; saved more lives  
Hubble, Edwin - astronomy  
Hutton, James - geologist  
Huygens, Christiaan - optics, physics  
Kepler, Johannes - astronomy, math  
Lavoisier, Antoine - chemistry  
Leakey, Louis - anthropology  
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van - microbiology, microscopy  
Leibnitz, Gottfried - math, physics, etc.  
Linnaeus, Carolus - botany, taxonomy  
Maxwell, James Clerk - physics  
Meitner, Lise - atomic physics  
Mendel, Gregor - genetics  
Mendeleev, Dmitri - chemistry  
Neumann, John von - computer science, etc.  
Newton, Sir Isaac - math, physics  
Pasteur, Louis - chemistry, biology  
Pauli, Wolfgang - quantum physics  
Pauling, Linus - chemistry  
Planck, Max - quantum physics  
Ptolemy - astronomy  
Rutherford, Ernest - nuclear physics, atomic theory, radioactivity.  
Salk, Jonas - medicine, vaccination  
Tesla, Nicolai - physics, invention  
Turing, Alan - computer science, etc.  
Vesalius, Andreas - founder of anatomical sciences  
Volta, Alessandro - chemistry, physics  
Watson, James - Dna  
Eliminated:  
[del]Al-Biruni, Abu Rayhan Muhammad - natural philosophy[/del] 11/29  
[del]Al-Khwarizmi, Muhammad ibn Musa - math, astronomy[/del] 11/27  
[del]Alhazen Ibn al-Haytham - physics, etc.[/del] 11/15  
[del]Anning, Mary - paleontology[/del] 11/15  
[del]Aristotle - philosophy, geology, biology, etc.[/del] 11/17  
[del]Arrow, Kenneth - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Babbage, Charles - computer science[/del] 11/20  
[del]Bacon, Francis - philosophy[/del] 11/17  
[del]Bardeen, John - physics, invention[/del] 11/27  
[del]Berzelius, Jacob - chemistry[/del] 11/29  
[del]Boltzmann, Ludwig - thermodynamics[/del] 11/20  
[del]Borlaug, Norman - agronomics[/del] 12/1  
[del]Brahmagupta - math, astronomy[/del] 11/20  
[del]Braun, Wernher von - rocket science[/del] 11/13  
[del]Bruno, Giordano - philosophy[/del] 11/15  
[del]Cannon, Annie Jump - astronomy[/del] 11/20  
[del]Davy, Sir Humphrey - chemistry[/del] 11/22  
[del]Dirac, Paul - physics[/del] 11/24  
[del]Doppler, Christian - physics[/del] 11/24  
[del]Edison, Thomas Alva - invention[/del] 11/09  
[del]Fleming, Sir Alexander - medicine, biology[/del] 11/20  
[del]Freud, Sigmund - psychology[/del] 11/09  
[del]Friedman, Milton - economics[/del] 11/09  
[del]Galen, of Pergamon - biology, medicine[/del] 12/1  
[del]Ge Hong - philosophy, alchemy[/del] 11/09  
[del]Gell-Mann, Murray - physics[/del] 11/27  
[del]Goddard, Robert - rocket science[/del] 11/13  
[del]Godel, Kurt - math[/del] 11/17  
[del]Goethe, Johann Wolfgang von - natural philosophy[/del] 11/13  
[del]Goodall, Jane - primatology[/del] 11/15  
[del]Gutenberg, Johannes - invention[/del] 11/11  
[del]Haber, Fritz - chemistry; invention (fertilizer, gas warfare)[/del] 11/15  
[del]Halley, Edmond - astronomy, etc.[/del] 11/13  
[del]Hamilton, William - astronomy, optics, math[/del] 11/15  
[del]Harvey, William - anatomy, blood[/del] 11/22  
[del]Hawking, Stephen - cosmology[/del] 11/24  
[del]Hipparchus, of Nicaea - astronomy, etc.[/del] 11/22  
[del]Hippocrates, of Cos - medicine[/del] 11/20  
[del]Hopper, Grace - computer science[/del] 11/15  
[del]Ibn al-Nafis - anatomy, blood[/del] 11/15  
[del]Jenner, Edward - vaccination[/del] 12/1  
[del]Jung, Carl - psychology[/del] 11/11  
[del]Keynes, John Maynard - economics[/del] 11/13  
[del]Lamarr, Hedy - invention[/del] 11/11  
[del]Leavitt, Henrietta Swan - astronomy[/del] 11/22  
[del]Leonardo da Vinci - anatomy, invention, etc.[/del] 11/15  
[del]Liebig, Justus von - organic chemistry; a great practical scientist.[/del] 11/17  
[del]Lister, Joseph - antiseptics[/del] 11/17  
[del]Lovelace, Ada Byron Countess of - computer science[/del] 11/22  
[del]Lyell, Charles - geology[/del] 11/20  
[del]Mach, Ernst - physics, cosmology[/del] 12/1  
[del]Marconi, Guglielmo - radio transmission[/del] 11/15  
[del]Marsh, Othneil = paleontology[/del] 11/17  
[del]McClintock, Barbara - genetics[/del] 11/24  
[del]Mead, Margaret - anthropology[/del] 11/20  
[del]Michelson, Albert - astronomy; speed of light[/del] 12/1  
[del]Morley, Edward - astronomy, chemistry, optics, and physics.[/del] 11/17  
[del]Mullis, Kary - biology[/del] 11/17  
[del]Nisibis, St. Jacob of - theology, founded early school[/del] 11/09  
[del]Noether, Emmy - math[/del] 11/27  
[del]Ockham, William of - philosophy[/del] 11/11  
[del]Oppenheimer, Robert - atomic physics[/del] 11/20  
[del]Patterson. Clair - geochemistry[/del] 11/15  
[del]Poincare, Henri - math[/del] 11/29  
[del]Pythagoras - math[/del] 11/17  
[del]Ricardo, David - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Rubin, Vera - astronomy[/del] 11/15  
[del]Russell, Bertrand - math[/del] 11/17  
[del]Sagan, Carl - astronomy[/del] 11/09  
[del]Sakharov, Andrei - nuclear physics[/del] 11/13  
[del]Samuelson, Paul - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Schrodinger, Erwin - wave mechanics[/del] 12/1  
[del]Semmelweis, Ignaz - antiseptics[/del] 11/17  
[del]Shannon, Claude - computer science[/del] 11/20  
[del]Smith, Adam - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Smith, William - geology[/del] 11/24  
[del]Thales, of Miletus - math[/del] 11/20  
[del]Thorne, Kip - physics[/del] 11/20  
[del]Tyson, Neil deGrasse - astrophysics, science popularizer[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ventner, Craig - genetics[/del] 11/15  
[del]Virchow, Rudolf - medicine, cell doctrine, etc.[/del] 11/13  
[del]Wegener, Alfred - meteorology, continental drift[/del] 11/29  
[del]Wigner, Eugene - physics, symmetry[/del] 11/17  
[del]Zhang Heng - astronomy, mechanics[/del] 11/22

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2017, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/219 "2017-12-01T22:05:29Z")

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Since nobody I named was eliminated in this latest round, consider Post #216 my vote for Monday’s deadline. I’ll suggest keeping the regular schedule through Dec. 18 and resuming the game Jan. 3, but I should be able to participate regardless of the timing of the break.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/220 "2017-12-02T02:53:02Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
>
> Since nobody I named was eliminated in this latest round, consider Post #216 my vote for Monday’s deadline…

This is what I do by default anyway. (In fact that’s the only reason we have as many votes down as we do, despite low participation.)

For the record, here are the votes currently active:Aspidistra: Hilleman, Leakey, Vesalius, Salk, Huygens, Ptolemy, Bernard, Agassiz  
Aspidistra KEEP: Meitner  
Chronos: Ptolemy  
Elendil’s Heir: Copernicus, Dalton, Hutton  
Elendil’s Heir KEEP: Franklin (B)  
Gyrate: Pauling, Tesla, Crick, Eratosthenes, Watson  
Gyrate KEEP: Franklin (B), Meitner  
Measure for Measure: Tesla, Ptolemy  
Measure for Measure KEEP: Hilleman, Leeuwenhoek  
Pepperwinkle: Bernard, Pauli  
Quartz: Meitner  
Snarky\_Kong: Franklin (B)  
Sternvogel: Bernard, Meitner, Hilleman, Pauli, Dalton, Feynman, Franklin (R)  
Sternvogel KEEP: Leakey, Leeuwenhoek  
wevets: Euclid  
wevets KEEP: Franklin (B)  
What Exit?: Leeuwenhoek  
What Exit? KEEP: Franklin (B), Tesla  
whitetho: Leakey, Mendel, Tesla  
whitetho KEEP: Faraday, Maxwell

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