# Greatest Scientists Ever: Elimination Game

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**Created:** [November 5, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825 "2017-11-05T21:08:21Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/141 "2017-11-13T00:09:56Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> Off with their heads:
> 
> Keynes  
> ibn al-Nafis  
> da Vinci  
> Hopper  
> Bacon  
> Anning  
> Alhazen  
> Halley  
> Sakharov
> 
> Two votes reserved.

Keynes  
ibn al-Nafis  
da Vinci  
Hopper  
Bacon  
Anning  
Alhazen  
Halley  
Sakharov  
Goethe  
Virchow

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/142 "2017-11-13T11:59:43Z")

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Ah. If we get eleven votes, then add

**Harvey, William** (yes, I know I nominated him but I’d rather give the credit to Ibn al-Nafis)  
**Goddard, Robert**

to the Eliminate list.

> [@Gyrate](#):
>
> Revised list replacing previous ones:
> 
> ELIMINATE:
> 
> Aristotle  
> Braun, Werner von  
> Galen, of Pergamon  
> Goethe, Johann Wolfgang von  
> Halley, Edmund  
> Lister, Joseph  
> Lovelace, Ada Byron Countess of  
> Sakharov, Andrei
> 
> KEEP:
> 
> Anning, Mary

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/143 "2017-11-13T13:22:24Z")

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Eliminations:

Anning, Mary  
Bruno, Giordano  
Goethe, Johann Wolfgang Von  
Hamilton, William  
Keynes, John Maynard  
Leavitt, Henrietta Swan  
Noether, Emmy  
Patterson, Clair  
Rubin, Vera  
Virchow, Rudolf  
Wigner, Eugene

If I still have a bonus vote, I’ll use it to keep Leonardo da Vinci around for a few more days.

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/144 "2017-11-13T17:51:54Z")

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There have been many interesting comments; and I’ve learned of a dozen great scientists I’d never heard of. Thank you. For example:

> [@jtur88](#):
>
> I’m going to add Marconi. He was on a very short list of thinkers who used a physical property that was not intuitively visible to common men, and apply it to practical use.
> 
> And Benjamin Franklin. Just because he did other things does not detract from his being a brilliant theoretical scientist. Wikipedia itemizes eleven different scientific principles to which Franklin contributed.

> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
>
> I think a lot of this will come down to criteria. Is science that has a lot of applications better? Is revolutionary better than incremental improvement? Depth vs breadth of contributions?
> 
> Interesting thread.

_ **Yes; I do hope for more discussion.** _ I was intrigued by the comments about Kip Thorne and several others. I want to make my own comment, to ask about our Armistice Day Massacre, when all the economists were shoved off the Island on or about Eleventh of November.

Contrast the quick elimination of all economists with the continued presence of practitioners of immunology or antiseptics. Is this intended to reward the health helpers for saving millions of lives? while the economists, however smart, have mostly failed, unable to outguess or influence Mother Nature, the Idiotocracies and Kleptocrats?

But if human benefit is the measure, I think Keynes and Friedman each espoused theories that increased production by billions or even trillions of dollars! (True, others could have written the textbooks. But vaccinators weren’t irreplaceable either.) _ **And what did post-Newton astronomers ever do for us?** _

Even if you call the economists useless … so are astronomers, really. The astronomers observe the stars — that makes them scientists. But economists observe human and social decision making and economics data — a domain even more complicated than astronomy.

Yet the astronomers and vaccinators are both still in the pool, while the economists are all gone. SAD. 😛 ?? :eek:

ETA: Yes, eventually the astronomers and quantum physicists may eventually discover interstellar travel. But perhaps it will be the economists who invent Selden’s psychohistory and save the Galactic Empire !! 🙂

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/145 "2017-11-13T18:47:29Z")

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**Elimination Round #3 is over.**

There _will_ be a Vote counting **Elimination on Wednesday, Nov. 15 at 2 pm EST** , and another Friday, also about 2 pm.  
To encourage frequent voting, and speed the game’s pace, the Mod _may_ also do vote count eliminations at about 2 pm on Tuesday or Thursday as well.

**For the next round(s) each player has eleven votes, up to two of which may be spent as Keeps.**

Here are some of the Round #3 vote totals. The first seven names are eliminated.

[INDENT]Eliminated:  
Goethe, Johann Wolfgang von : 6  
Keynes, John Maynard : 5  
Braun, Werner von : 3  
Goddard, Robert : 3  
Halley, Edmund : 3  
Sakharov, Andrei : 3  
Virchow, Rudolf : 3  
Others with 2+ votes:  
Alhazen Ibn al-Haytham : 2  
Bruno, Giordano : 2  
Ibn al-Nafis : 2  
Marconi, Guglielmo : 2  
Patterson, Clair : 2  
Hopper, Grace : 3-1 = 2  
Leonardo da Vinci : 3-1 = 2  
Anning, Mary : 2-1 = 1  
Aristotle : 2-1 = 1  
Franklin, Benjamin : 1-1 = 0  
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**Official Scientists List:**

Agassiz, Louis - biology, geology  
Al-Biruni, Abu Rayhan Muhammad - natural philosophy  
Al-Khwarizmi, Muhammad ibn Musa - math, astronomy  
Alhazen Ibn al-Haytham - physics, etc.  
Anning, Mary - paleontology  
Archimedes - math, physics  
Aristotle - philosophy, geology, biology, etc.  
Babbage, Charles - computer science  
Bacon, Francis - philosophy  
Bardeen, John - physics, invention  
Bernard, Claude - physiology  
Berzelius, Jacob - chemistry  
Boas, Franz - anthropology  
Bohr, Niels - atomic physics  
Boltzmann, Ludwig - thermodynamics  
Borlaug, Norman - agronomics  
Boyle, Robert - chemistry, physics  
Brahmagupta - math, astronomy  
Bruno, Giordano - philosophy  
Cannon, Annie Jump - astronomy  
Copernicus, Nicolas - astronomy  
Crick, Francis - Dna  
Curie, Marie - radioactivity  
Dalton, John - chemistry  
Darwin, Charles - biology  
Davy, Sir Humphrey - chemistry  
Dirac, Paul - physics  
Doppler, Christian - physics  
Einstein, Albert - physics  
Eratosthenes - math, astronomy  
Euclid - math  
Euler, Leonhard - math  
Faraday, Michael - electromagnetism, etc.  
Fermat, Pierre de - math, optics  
Fermi, Enrico - atomic physics  
Feynman, Richard - physics  
Fleming, Sir Alexander - medicine, biology  
Franklin, Benjamin - physics, etc.  
Franklin, Rosalind - chemistry, X-ray crystallography  
Galen, of Pergamon - biology, medicine  
Galileo - physics, astronomy, etc.  
Gauss, Karl - math, astronomy  
Gell-Mann, Murray - physics  
Godel, Kurt - math  
Goodall, Jane - primatology  
Haber, Fritz - chemistry; invention (fertilizer, gas warfare)  
Hamilton, William - astronomy, optics, math  
Harvey, William - anatomy, blood  
Hawking, Stephen - cosmology  
Heisenberg, Werner - quantum theory  
Hilleman, Maurice - biology, vaccination; saved more lives  
Hipparchus, of Nicaea - astronomy, etc.  
Hippocrates, of Cos - medicine  
Hopper, Grace - computer science  
Hubble, Edwin - astronomy  
Hutton, James - geologist  
Huygens, Christiaan - optics, physics  
Ibn al-Nafis - anatomy, blood  
Jenner, Edward - vaccination  
Kepler, Johannes - astronomy, math  
Lavoisier, Antoine - chemistry  
Leakey, Louis - anthropology  
Leavitt, Henrietta Swan - astronomy  
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van - microbiology, microscopy  
Leibnitz, Gottfried - math, physics, etc.  
Leonardo da Vinci - anatomy, invention, etc.  
Liebig, Justus von - organic chemistry; a great practical scientist.  
Linnaeus, Carolus - botany, taxonomy  
Lister, Joseph - antiseptics  
Lovelace, Ada Byron Countess of - computer science  
Lyell, Charles - geology  
Mach, Ernst - physics, cosmology  
Marconi, Guglielmo - radio transmission  
Marsh, Othneil = paleontology  
Maxwell, James Clerk - physics  
McClintock, Barbara - genetics  
Mead, Margaret - anthropology  
Meitner, Lise - atomic physics  
Mendel, Gregor - genetics  
Mendeleev, Dmitri - chemistry  
Michelson, Albert - astronomy; speed of light  
Morley, Edward - astronomy, chemistry, optics, and physics.  
Mullis, Kary - biology  
Neumann, John von - computer science, etc.  
Newton, Sir Isaac - math, physics  
Noether, Emmy - math  
Oppenheimer, Robert - atomic physics  
Pasteur, Louis - chemistry, biology  
Patterson. Clair - geochemistry  
Pauli, Wolfgang - quantum physics  
Pauling, Linus - chemistry  
Planck, Max - quantum physics  
Poincare, Henri - math  
Ptolemy - astronomy  
Pythagoras - math  
Rubin, Vera - astronomy  
Russell, Bertrand - math  
Rutherford, Ernest - nuclear physics, atomic theory, radioactivity.  
Salk, Jonas - medicine, vaccination  
Schrodinger, Erwin - wave mechanics  
Semmelweis, Ignaz - antiseptics  
Shannon, Claude - computer science  
Smith, William - geology  
Tesla, Nicolai - physics, invention  
Thales, of Miletus - math  
Thorne, Kip - physics  
Turing, Alan - computer science, etc.  
Ventner, Craig - genetics  
Vesalius, Andreas - founder of anatomical sciences  
Volta, Alessandro - chemistry, physics  
Watson, James - Dna  
Wegener, Alfred - meteorology, continental drift  
Wigner, Eugene - physics, symmetry  
Zhang Heng - astronomy, mechanics  
[del]Arrow, Kenneth - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Braun, Wernher von - rocket science[/del] 11/13  
[del]Edison, Thomas Alva - invention[/del] 11/09  
[del]Freud, Sigmund - psychology[/del] 11/09  
[del]Friedman, Milton - economics[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ge Hong - philosophy, alchemy[/del] 11/09  
[del]Goddard, Robert - rocket science[/del] 11/13  
[del]Goethe, Johann Wolfgang von - natural philosophy[/del] 11/13  
[del]Gutenberg, Johannes - invention[/del] 11/11  
[del]Halley, Edmond - astronomy, etc.[/del] 11/13  
[del]Jung, Carl - psychology[/del] 11/11  
[del]Keynes, John Maynard - economics[/del] 11/13  
[del]Lamarr, Hedy - invention[/del] 11/11  
[del]Nisibis, St. Jacob of - theology, founded early school[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ockham, William of - philosophy[/del] 11/11  
[del]Ricardo, David - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Sagan, Carl - astronomy[/del] 11/09  
[del]Sakharov, Andrei - nuclear physics[/del] 11/13  
[del]Samuelson, Paul - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Smith, Adam - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Tyson, Neil deGrasse - astrophysics, science popularizer[/del] 11/09  
[del]Virchow, Rudolf - medicine, cell doctrine, etc.[/del] 11/13

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/146 "2017-11-14T19:29:48Z")

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Eliminations:

Alhazen Ibn al-Haytham  
Anning, Mary  
Bernard, Claude  
Bruno, Giordano  
Hamilton, William  
Leavitt, Henrietta Swan  
Noether, Emmy  
Patterson, Clair  
Rubin, Vera  
Wigner, Eugene

Keep:

Leonardo da Vinci

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/147 "2017-11-14T19:58:33Z")

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I voted against economists not because they’re not great, but because they’re not scientists. Or to be more precise, there are some parts of economics which are mathematical, but they don’t apply to the real world, only to some very vague approximation to the real world, populated by rational actors.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/148 "2017-11-15T11:23:06Z")

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ELIMINATE:

Aristotle  
Babbage, Charles  
Galen, of Pergamon  
Haber, Fritz  
Harvey, William  
Lister, Joseph  
Lovelace, Ada Byron Countess of  
Marconi, Guglielmo  
Patterson, Clair  
Russell, Bertrand  
Ventner, Craig

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/149 "2017-11-15T13:10:57Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
>
> I voted against economists not because they’re not great, but because they’re not scientists. Or to be more precise, there are some parts of economics which are mathematical, but they don’t apply to the real world, only to some very vague approximation to the real world, populated by rational actors.

All science applies to approximations of the real world.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/150 "2017-11-15T13:17:29Z")

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Anning, Mary  
Aristotle  
Ventner, Craig  
Marconi, Guglielmo  
Leonardo da Vinci  
Haber, Fritz  
Hopper, Grace - computer science

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/151 "2017-11-15T14:24:08Z")

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Well, yes, all science involves approximations, but usually the approximation is at least close enough to be recognizable.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/152 "2017-11-15T14:47:52Z")

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Eliminate:

Bruno, Giordano  
Franklin, Benjamin  
Goodall, Jane  
Haber, Fritz  
Hamilton, William  
Hawking, Stephen  
Liebig, Justus van  
Rubin, Vera  
Shannon, Claude  
Thorne, Kip  
Zhang Heng

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/153 "2017-11-15T15:13:12Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
>
> Anning, Mary  
> Aristotle  
> Ventner, Craig  
> Marconi, Guglielmo  
> Leonardo da Vinci  
> Haber, Fritz  
> Hopper, Grace - computer science

You’re allowed 11 votes altogether. I show you with an old (leftover) vote on B. Franklin. I’ll keep that vote on unless you tell me otherwise.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/154 "2017-11-15T15:23:21Z")

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Scientists with two or more active votes are:  
Marconi, Guglielmo : 4

Alhazen Ibn al-Haytham : 3  
Anning, Mary : 3  
Bruno, Giordano : 3  
Haber, Fritz : 3

Hopper, Grace : 4-1 = 2.99  
Leonardo da Vinci : 4-1 = 2.99

Hamilton, William : 2  
Patterson, Clair : 2  
Rubin, Vera : 2  
Goodall, Jane : 2  
Ibn al-Nafis : 2  
Ventner, Craig : 2

Aristotle : 3-1 = 1.99

Franklin, Benjamin : 2-1 = 0.99

As you can see, I’m counting the Keep votes as canceling 1.01 Evict votes. To speed the game, I’m thinking of eliminating those with 2 votes this round (but not Aristotle at 3-1 = 1.99).

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/155 "2017-11-15T18:51:51Z")

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\*\*Elimination Round #4 is over.

There will be a Vote counting Elimination on Friday, Nov. 17 at 2 pm EST.  
For the next round(s) each player has eleven votes, up to two of which may be spent as Keeps.\*\*

I showed the current vote counts in the previous post. 13 scientists are eliminated now:  
Alhazen Ibn al-Haytham  
Anning, Mary  
Bruno, Giordano  
Goodall, Jane  
Haber, Fritz  
Hamilton, William  
Hopper, Grace  
Ibn al-Nafis  
Leonardo da Vinci  
Marconi, Guglielmo  
Patterson, Clair  
Rubin, Vera  
Ventner, Craig

There are still 101 scientists left.  
**Official Scientists List:**

Agassiz, Louis - biology, geology  
Al-Biruni, Abu Rayhan Muhammad - natural philosophy  
Al-Khwarizmi, Muhammad ibn Musa - math, astronomy  
Archimedes - math, physics  
Aristotle - philosophy, geology, biology, etc.  
Babbage, Charles - computer science  
Bacon, Francis - philosophy  
Bardeen, John - physics, invention  
Bernard, Claude - physiology  
Berzelius, Jacob - chemistry  
Boas, Franz - anthropology  
Bohr, Niels - atomic physics  
Boltzmann, Ludwig - thermodynamics  
Borlaug, Norman - agronomics  
Boyle, Robert - chemistry, physics  
Brahmagupta - math, astronomy  
Cannon, Annie Jump - astronomy  
Copernicus, Nicolas - astronomy  
Crick, Francis - Dna  
Curie, Marie - radioactivity  
Dalton, John - chemistry  
Darwin, Charles - biology  
Davy, Sir Humphrey - chemistry  
Dirac, Paul - physics  
Doppler, Christian - physics  
Einstein, Albert - physics  
Eratosthenes - math, astronomy  
Euclid - math  
Euler, Leonhard - math  
Faraday, Michael - electromagnetism, etc.  
Fermat, Pierre de - math, optics  
Fermi, Enrico - atomic physics  
Feynman, Richard - physics  
Fleming, Sir Alexander - medicine, biology  
Franklin, Benjamin - physics, etc.  
Franklin, Rosalind - chemistry, X-ray crystallography  
Galen, of Pergamon - biology, medicine  
Galileo - physics, astronomy, etc.  
Gauss, Karl - math, astronomy  
Gell-Mann, Murray - physics  
Godel, Kurt - math  
Harvey, William - anatomy, blood  
Hawking, Stephen - cosmology  
Heisenberg, Werner - quantum theory  
Hilleman, Maurice - biology, vaccination; saved more lives  
Hipparchus, of Nicaea - astronomy, etc.  
Hippocrates, of Cos - medicine  
Hubble, Edwin - astronomy  
Hutton, James - geologist  
Huygens, Christiaan - optics, physics  
Jenner, Edward - vaccination  
Kepler, Johannes - astronomy, math  
Lavoisier, Antoine - chemistry  
Leakey, Louis - anthropology  
Leavitt, Henrietta Swan - astronomy  
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van - microbiology, microscopy  
Leibnitz, Gottfried - math, physics, etc.  
Liebig, Justus von - organic chemistry; a great practical scientist.  
Linnaeus, Carolus - botany, taxonomy  
Lister, Joseph - antiseptics  
Lovelace, Ada Byron Countess of - computer science  
Lyell, Charles - geology  
Mach, Ernst - physics, cosmology  
Marsh, Othneil = paleontology  
Maxwell, James Clerk - physics  
McClintock, Barbara - genetics  
Mead, Margaret - anthropology  
Meitner, Lise - atomic physics  
Mendel, Gregor - genetics  
Mendeleev, Dmitri - chemistry  
Michelson, Albert - astronomy; speed of light  
Morley, Edward - astronomy, chemistry, optics, and physics.  
Mullis, Kary - biology  
Neumann, John von - computer science, etc.  
Newton, Sir Isaac - math, physics  
Noether, Emmy - math  
Oppenheimer, Robert - atomic physics  
Pasteur, Louis - chemistry, biology  
Pauli, Wolfgang - quantum physics  
Pauling, Linus - chemistry  
Planck, Max - quantum physics  
Poincare, Henri - math  
Ptolemy - astronomy  
Pythagoras - math  
Russell, Bertrand - math  
Rutherford, Ernest - nuclear physics, atomic theory, radioactivity.  
Salk, Jonas - medicine, vaccination  
Schrodinger, Erwin - wave mechanics  
Semmelweis, Ignaz - antiseptics  
Shannon, Claude - computer science  
Smith, William - geology  
Tesla, Nicolai - physics, invention  
Thales, of Miletus - math  
Thorne, Kip - physics  
Turing, Alan - computer science, etc.  
Vesalius, Andreas - founder of anatomical sciences  
Volta, Alessandro - chemistry, physics  
Watson, James - Dna  
Wegener, Alfred - meteorology, continental drift  
Wigner, Eugene - physics, symmetry  
Zhang Heng - astronomy, mechanics  
[del]Alhazen Ibn al-Haytham - physics, etc.[/del] 11/15  
[del]Anning, Mary - paleontology[/del] 11/15  
[del]Arrow, Kenneth - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Braun, Wernher von - rocket science[/del] 11/13  
[del]Bruno, Giordano - philosophy[/del] 11/15  
[del]Edison, Thomas Alva - invention[/del] 11/09  
[del]Freud, Sigmund - psychology[/del] 11/09  
[del]Friedman, Milton - economics[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ge Hong - philosophy, alchemy[/del] 11/09  
[del]Goddard, Robert - rocket science[/del] 11/13  
[del]Goethe, Johann Wolfgang von - natural philosophy[/del] 11/13  
[del]Goodall, Jane - primatology[/del] 11/15  
[del]Gutenberg, Johannes - invention[/del] 11/11  
[del]Haber, Fritz - chemistry; invention (fertilizer, gas warfare)[/del] 11/15  
[del]Halley, Edmond - astronomy, etc.[/del] 11/13  
[del]Hamilton, William - astronomy, optics, math[/del] 11/15  
[del]Hopper, Grace - computer science[/del] 11/15  
[del]Ibn al-Nafis - anatomy, blood[/del] 11/15  
[del]Jung, Carl - psychology[/del] 11/11  
[del]Keynes, John Maynard - economics[/del] 11/13  
[del]Lamarr, Hedy - invention[/del] 11/11  
[del]Leonardo da Vinci - anatomy, invention, etc.[/del] 11/15  
[del]Marconi, Guglielmo - radio transmission[/del] 11/15  
[del]Nisibis, St. Jacob of - theology, founded early school[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ockham, William of - philosophy[/del] 11/11  
[del]Patterson. Clair - geochemistry[/del] 11/15  
[del]Ricardo, David - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Rubin, Vera - astronomy[/del] 11/15  
[del]Sagan, Carl - astronomy[/del] 11/09  
[del]Sakharov, Andrei - nuclear physics[/del] 11/13  
[del]Samuelson, Paul - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Smith, Adam - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Tyson, Neil deGrasse - astrophysics, science popularizer[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ventner, Craig - genetics[/del] 11/15  
[del]Virchow, Rudolf - medicine, cell doctrine, etc.[/del] 11/13

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**Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/156 "2017-11-16T08:39:00Z")

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Today under the hammer…

Justus von Liebig - scientific work mostly incremental  
Joseph Lister - just one main accomplishment - though it was a big one  
Charles Lyell - a lot of work as a populariser rather than purely practising scientist  
Ernst Mach - as Lister  
Othneil Marsh - if I ditched Mary Anning, I really have to can him too  
Margaret Mead - persistent claims of inaccuracy from multiple sources  
Edward Morley - not prolific outside of that one famous experiment  
Kary Mullis - supporter of AIDS denialists and climate change denialists  
Robert Oppenheimer - strip out his work as teacher, mentor and administrator, and his scientific accomplishments are still good - but not great enough  
Pythagoras - can’t tell how much of his work was really **his** work  
Ignaz Semmelweis - I give him credit as a magnificent obstinate bastard, but he didn’t know \*\*why \*\*he was right, only \*\*that \*\*he was.

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**Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/157 "2017-11-16T09:55:27Z")

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ELIMINATE:

Aristotle  
Babbage, Charles  
Bacon, Francis  
Galen, of Pergamon  
Harvey, William  
Lister, Joseph  
Lovelace, Ada Byron Countess of  
Marsh, Othneil  
Mullis, Kary  
Pauling, Linus  
Russell, Bertrand

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**Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/158 "2017-11-16T22:02:37Z")

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Eliminations:

Bardeen, John  
Bernard, Claude  
Cannon, Annie Jump  
Hipparchus of Nicaea  
Leavitt, Henrietta Swan  
Marsh, Othneil  
Mullis, Kary  
Noether, Emmy  
Russell, Bertrand  
Semmelweis, Ignaz  
Wigner, Eugene

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**Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/159 "2017-11-16T22:19:45Z")

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Eliminate:

Aristotle  
Brahmagupta  
Franklin, Benjamin  
Godel, Kurt  
Hawking, Stephen  
Liebig, Justus von  
Mullis, Katy  
Shannon, Claude  
Thorne, Kip  
Wigner, Eugene  
Zhang Heng

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**Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/160 "2017-11-17T02:43:34Z")

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Remove:  
Aristotle  
Russell, Bertrand  
Franklin, Benjamin  
Marsh, Othneil  
Pythagoras

Keep:  
John Bardeen

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