# Greatest Scientists Ever: Elimination Game

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [November 5, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825 "2017-11-05T21:08:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/161 "2017-11-17T17:31:23Z")

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Scientists with 2 or more votes:  
Marsh, Othneil : 4  
Mullis, Kary : 4  
Pythagoras : 3  
Russell, Bertrand : 3  
Aristotle : 4-1 = 2.99

Bacon, Francis : 2  
Godel, Kurt : 2  
Liebig, Justus van : 2  
Lister, Joseph : 2  
Morley, Edward : 2  
Semmelweis, Ignaz : 2  
Wigner, Eugene : 2

Franklin, Benjamin : 2-1 = 0.99  
Bardeen, John : 1-1 = 0  
With these votes the first five on the list would certainly be eliminated. (I’ve not decided if I should speed up the Game by eliminated all the twice-voteds as well.)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/162 "2017-11-17T17:36:55Z")

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I think it’s probably time to ditch the “Keep” option. Or we need more players.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/163 "2017-11-17T18:04:35Z")

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The Keep option isn’t the problem here. Lack of players is.

@ **Gyrate** — do you think I should eliminate all those with 2 votes? Deadline is coming up soon.

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/164 "2017-11-17T19:15:20Z")

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Perhaps you should eliminate the 2’s only if there aren’t “enough” \>2 votes? With “enough” being, say, less than 10% of the existing list (so right now would qualify)

I feel this is a problem which will get less serious as the list goes down. We have a wide variety of elimination possibilities right now, so the vote can get a bit scattered

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/165 "2017-11-17T20:53:54Z")

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I know I’m not voting right now because there are so many people on the list that I don’t really know, and it’s too much bother to look them all up.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/166 "2017-11-17T21:00:38Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I know I’m not voting right now because there are so many people on the list that I don’t really know, and it’s too much bother to look them all up.

Yes, and this is my fault for allowing so many inappropriate nominations. :o In an effort to make amends, I could show the five remaining on my “suggested Mod-Kills” list but (unless your urge me to) I won’t them. By now it’s too little too late.

So I’ll end the Round, eliminating all with 2 net votes or more. (see preceding post.)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/167 "2017-11-17T21:08:01Z")

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I don’t think it’s really your fault. A lot of it is just due to areas of expertise: We obviously have to have biologists on the list, for instance, but I don’t know much about very many biologists. Darwin and Mendel deserve to be on the list, of course, but so do some other guys who aren’t as broadly famous as them.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/168 "2017-11-17T21:09:12Z")

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\*\*Elimination Round #5 is over.

There will be a Vote counting Elimination on Monday, Nov. 20 at 2 pm EST.  
For the next round each player has eleven votes, up to two of which may be spent as Keeps.\*\*  
There are still 89 scientists left.  
**Official Scientists List:**  
Agassiz, Louis - biology, geology  
Al-Biruni, Abu Rayhan Muhammad - natural philosophy  
Al-Khwarizmi, Muhammad ibn Musa - math, astronomy  
Archimedes - math, physics  
Aristotle - philosophy, geology, biology, etc.  
Babbage, Charles - computer science  
Bacon, Francis - philosophy  
Bardeen, John - physics, invention  
Bernard, Claude - physiology  
Berzelius, Jacob - chemistry  
Boas, Franz - anthropology  
Bohr, Niels - atomic physics  
Boltzmann, Ludwig - thermodynamics  
Borlaug, Norman - agronomics  
Boyle, Robert - chemistry, physics  
Brahmagupta - math, astronomy  
Cannon, Annie Jump - astronomy  
Copernicus, Nicolas - astronomy  
Crick, Francis - Dna  
Curie, Marie - radioactivity  
Dalton, John - chemistry  
Darwin, Charles - biology  
Davy, Sir Humphrey - chemistry  
Dirac, Paul - physics  
Doppler, Christian - physics  
Einstein, Albert - physics  
Eratosthenes - math, astronomy  
Euclid - math  
Euler, Leonhard - math  
Faraday, Michael - electromagnetism, etc.  
Fermat, Pierre de - math, optics  
Fermi, Enrico - atomic physics  
Feynman, Richard - physics  
Fleming, Sir Alexander - medicine, biology  
Franklin, Benjamin - physics, etc.  
Franklin, Rosalind - chemistry, X-ray crystallography  
Galen, of Pergamon - biology, medicine  
Galileo - physics, astronomy, etc.  
Gauss, Karl - math, astronomy  
Gell-Mann, Murray - physics  
Godel, Kurt - math  
Harvey, William - anatomy, blood  
Hawking, Stephen - cosmology  
Heisenberg, Werner - quantum theory  
Hilleman, Maurice - biology, vaccination; saved more lives  
Hipparchus, of Nicaea - astronomy, etc.  
Hippocrates, of Cos - medicine  
Hubble, Edwin - astronomy  
Hutton, James - geologist  
Huygens, Christiaan - optics, physics  
Jenner, Edward - vaccination  
Kepler, Johannes - astronomy, math  
Lavoisier, Antoine - chemistry  
Leakey, Louis - anthropology  
Leavitt, Henrietta Swan - astronomy  
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van - microbiology, microscopy  
Leibnitz, Gottfried - math, physics, etc.  
Liebig, Justus von - organic chemistry; a great practical scientist.  
Linnaeus, Carolus - botany, taxonomy  
Lister, Joseph - antiseptics  
Lovelace, Ada Byron Countess of - computer science  
Lyell, Charles - geology  
Mach, Ernst - physics, cosmology  
Marsh, Othneil = paleontology  
Maxwell, James Clerk - physics  
McClintock, Barbara - genetics  
Mead, Margaret - anthropology  
Meitner, Lise - atomic physics  
Mendel, Gregor - genetics  
Mendeleev, Dmitri - chemistry  
Michelson, Albert - astronomy; speed of light  
Morley, Edward - astronomy, chemistry, optics, and physics.  
Mullis, Kary - biology  
Neumann, John von - computer science, etc.  
Newton, Sir Isaac - math, physics  
Noether, Emmy - math  
Oppenheimer, Robert - atomic physics  
Pasteur, Louis - chemistry, biology  
Pauli, Wolfgang - quantum physics  
Pauling, Linus - chemistry  
Planck, Max - quantum physics  
Poincare, Henri - math  
Ptolemy - astronomy  
Pythagoras - math  
Russell, Bertrand - math  
Rutherford, Ernest - nuclear physics, atomic theory, radioactivity.  
Salk, Jonas - medicine, vaccination  
Schrodinger, Erwin - wave mechanics  
Semmelweis, Ignaz - antiseptics  
Shannon, Claude - computer science  
Smith, William - geology  
Tesla, Nicolai - physics, invention  
Thales, of Miletus - math  
Thorne, Kip - physics  
Turing, Alan - computer science, etc.  
Vesalius, Andreas - founder of anatomical sciences  
Volta, Alessandro - chemistry, physics  
Watson, James - Dna  
Wegener, Alfred - meteorology, continental drift  
Wigner, Eugene - physics, symmetry  
Zhang Heng - astronomy, mechanics

Eliminated already:  
[del]Alhazen Ibn al-Haytham - physics, etc.[/del] 11/15  
[del]Anning, Mary - paleontology[/del] 11/15  
[del]Arrow, Kenneth - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Braun, Wernher von - rocket science[/del] 11/13  
[del]Bruno, Giordano - philosophy[/del] 11/15  
[del]Edison, Thomas Alva - invention[/del] 11/09  
[del]Freud, Sigmund - psychology[/del] 11/09  
[del]Friedman, Milton - economics[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ge Hong - philosophy, alchemy[/del] 11/09  
[del]Goddard, Robert - rocket science[/del] 11/13  
[del]Goethe, Johann Wolfgang von - natural philosophy[/del] 11/13  
[del]Goodall, Jane - primatology[/del] 11/15  
[del]Gutenberg, Johannes - invention[/del] 11/11  
[del]Haber, Fritz - chemistry; invention (fertilizer, gas warfare)[/del] 11/15  
[del]Halley, Edmond - astronomy, etc.[/del] 11/13  
[del]Hamilton, William - astronomy, optics, math[/del] 11/15  
[del]Hopper, Grace - computer science[/del] 11/15  
[del]Ibn al-Nafis - anatomy, blood[/del] 11/15  
[del]Jung, Carl - psychology[/del] 11/11  
[del]Keynes, John Maynard - economics[/del] 11/13  
[del]Lamarr, Hedy - invention[/del] 11/11  
[del]Leonardo da Vinci - anatomy, invention, etc.[/del] 11/15  
[del]Marconi, Guglielmo - radio transmission[/del] 11/15  
[del]Nisibis, St. Jacob of - theology, founded early school[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ockham, William of - philosophy[/del] 11/11  
[del]Patterson. Clair - geochemistry[/del] 11/15  
[del]Ricardo, David - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Rubin, Vera - astronomy[/del] 11/15  
[del]Sagan, Carl - astronomy[/del] 11/09  
[del]Sakharov, Andrei - nuclear physics[/del] 11/13  
[del]Samuelson, Paul - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Smith, Adam - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Tyson, Neil deGrasse - astrophysics, science popularizer[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ventner, Craig - genetics[/del] 11/15  
[del]Virchow, Rudolf - medicine, cell doctrine, etc.[/del] 11/13

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/169 "2017-11-18T10:54:29Z")

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Um - is that meant to be a new list? All the eliminees from post 161 are still on it

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2017, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/170 "2017-11-18T12:06:04Z")

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> [@Aspidistra](#):
>
> Um - is that meant to be a new list? All the eliminees from post 161 are still on it

Oops! :smack: Let me try again:

**Official Scientists List:**

Agassiz, Louis - biology, geology  
Al-Biruni, Abu Rayhan Muhammad - natural philosophy  
Al-Khwarizmi, Muhammad ibn Musa - math, astronomy  
Archimedes - math, physics  
Babbage, Charles - computer science  
Bardeen, John - physics, invention  
Bernard, Claude - physiology  
Berzelius, Jacob - chemistry  
Boas, Franz - anthropology  
Bohr, Niels - atomic physics  
Boltzmann, Ludwig - thermodynamics  
Borlaug, Norman - agronomics  
Boyle, Robert - chemistry, physics  
Brahmagupta - math, astronomy  
Cannon, Annie Jump - astronomy  
Copernicus, Nicolas - astronomy  
Crick, Francis - Dna  
Curie, Marie - radioactivity  
Dalton, John - chemistry  
Darwin, Charles - biology  
Davy, Sir Humphrey - chemistry  
Dirac, Paul - physics  
Doppler, Christian - physics  
Einstein, Albert - physics  
Eratosthenes - math, astronomy  
Euclid - math  
Euler, Leonhard - math  
Faraday, Michael - electromagnetism, etc.  
Fermat, Pierre de - math, optics  
Fermi, Enrico - atomic physics  
Feynman, Richard - physics  
Fleming, Sir Alexander - medicine, biology  
Franklin, Benjamin - physics, etc.  
Franklin, Rosalind - chemistry, X-ray crystallography  
Galen, of Pergamon - biology, medicine  
Galileo - physics, astronomy, etc.  
Gauss, Karl - math, astronomy  
Gell-Mann, Murray - physics  
Harvey, William - anatomy, blood  
Hawking, Stephen - cosmology  
Heisenberg, Werner - quantum theory  
Hilleman, Maurice - biology, vaccination; saved more lives  
Hipparchus, of Nicaea - astronomy, etc.  
Hippocrates, of Cos - medicine  
Hubble, Edwin - astronomy  
Hutton, James - geologist  
Huygens, Christiaan - optics, physics  
Jenner, Edward - vaccination  
Kepler, Johannes - astronomy, math  
Lavoisier, Antoine - chemistry  
Leakey, Louis - anthropology  
Leavitt, Henrietta Swan - astronomy  
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van - microbiology, microscopy  
Leibnitz, Gottfried - math, physics, etc.  
Linnaeus, Carolus - botany, taxonomy  
Lovelace, Ada Byron Countess of - computer science  
Lyell, Charles - geology  
Mach, Ernst - physics, cosmology  
Maxwell, James Clerk - physics  
McClintock, Barbara - genetics  
Mead, Margaret - anthropology  
Meitner, Lise - atomic physics  
Mendel, Gregor - genetics  
Mendeleev, Dmitri - chemistry  
Michelson, Albert - astronomy; speed of light  
Neumann, John von - computer science, etc.  
Newton, Sir Isaac - math, physics  
Noether, Emmy - math  
Oppenheimer, Robert - atomic physics  
Pasteur, Louis - chemistry, biology  
Pauli, Wolfgang - quantum physics  
Pauling, Linus - chemistry  
Planck, Max - quantum physics  
Poincare, Henri - math  
Ptolemy - astronomy  
Rutherford, Ernest - nuclear physics, atomic theory, radioactivity.  
Salk, Jonas - medicine, vaccination  
Schrodinger, Erwin - wave mechanics  
Shannon, Claude - computer science  
Smith, William - geology  
Tesla, Nicolai - physics, invention  
Thales, of Miletus - math  
Thorne, Kip - physics  
Turing, Alan - computer science, etc.  
Vesalius, Andreas - founder of anatomical sciences  
Volta, Alessandro - chemistry, physics  
Watson, James - Dna  
Wegener, Alfred - meteorology, continental drift  
Zhang Heng - astronomy, mechanics

Eliminated:  
[del]Alhazen Ibn al-Haytham - physics, etc.[/del] 11/15  
[del]Anning, Mary - paleontology[/del] 11/15  
[del]Aristotle - philosophy, geology, biology, etc.[/del] 11/17  
[del]Arrow, Kenneth - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Bacon, Francis - philosophy[/del] 11/17  
[del]Braun, Wernher von - rocket science[/del] 11/13  
[del]Bruno, Giordano - philosophy[/del] 11/15  
[del]Edison, Thomas Alva - invention[/del] 11/09  
[del]Freud, Sigmund - psychology[/del] 11/09  
[del]Friedman, Milton - economics[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ge Hong - philosophy, alchemy[/del] 11/09  
[del]Goddard, Robert - rocket science[/del] 11/13  
[del]Godel, Kurt - math[/del] 11/17  
[del]Goethe, Johann Wolfgang von - natural philosophy[/del] 11/13  
[del]Goodall, Jane - primatology[/del] 11/15  
[del]Gutenberg, Johannes - invention[/del] 11/11  
[del]Haber, Fritz - chemistry; invention (fertilizer, gas warfare)[/del] 11/15  
[del]Halley, Edmond - astronomy, etc.[/del] 11/13  
[del]Hamilton, William - astronomy, optics, math[/del] 11/15  
[del]Hopper, Grace - computer science[/del] 11/15  
[del]Ibn al-Nafis - anatomy, blood[/del] 11/15  
[del]Jung, Carl - psychology[/del] 11/11  
[del]Keynes, John Maynard - economics[/del] 11/13  
[del]Lamarr, Hedy - invention[/del] 11/11  
[del]Leonardo da Vinci - anatomy, invention, etc.[/del] 11/15  
[del]Liebig, Justus von - organic chemistry; a great practical scientist.[/del] 11/17  
[del]Lister, Joseph - antiseptics[/del] 11/17  
[del]Marconi, Guglielmo - radio transmission[/del] 11/15  
[del]Marsh, Othneil = paleontology[/del] 11/17  
[del]Morley, Edward - astronomy, chemistry, optics, and physics.[/del] 11/17  
[del]Mullis, Kary - biology[/del] 11/17  
[del]Nisibis, St. Jacob of - theology, founded early school[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ockham, William of - philosophy[/del] 11/11  
[del]Patterson. Clair - geochemistry[/del] 11/15  
[del]Pythagoras - math[/del] 11/17  
[del]Ricardo, David - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Rubin, Vera - astronomy[/del] 11/15  
[del]Russell, Bertrand - math[/del] 11/17  
[del]Sagan, Carl - astronomy[/del] 11/09  
[del]Sakharov, Andrei - nuclear physics[/del] 11/13  
[del]Samuelson, Paul - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Semmelweis, Ignaz - antiseptics[/del] 11/17  
[del]Smith, Adam - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Tyson, Neil deGrasse - astrophysics, science popularizer[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ventner, Craig - genetics[/del] 11/15  
[del]Virchow, Rudolf - medicine, cell doctrine, etc.[/del] 11/13  
[del]Wigner, Eugene - physics, symmetry[/del] 11/17

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/171 "2017-11-19T21:11:59Z")

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Sending out to pasture…

Hippocrates of Cos - on the grounds that an unknown amount of “his” work may in fact be his students’  
Alexander Fleming - he discovered penicillin, but the bulk of the very substantial work involved in developing it into a usable substance, was done by a team he wasn’t involved in  
Margaret Mead - repeated rumours of dubious work, from multiple sources

And a bunch of people who did solid work in their fields, but not in a ground-breaking or paradigm-shifting way:  
John Bardeen  
Ludwig Boltzmann  
Annie Jump Cannon  
Christian Doppler  
Charles Lyell  
Ernst Mach  
William Smith  
Kip Thorne

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**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/172 "2017-11-20T00:09:25Z")

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Out they go…

Brahmagpta  
Cannon, Annie Jump  
Eratosthenes  
Hawking, Stephen  
Hutton, James  
Meitner, Lise  
Pauli, Wolfgang  
Shannon, Claude  
Thales  
Thorne, Kip  
Zhang Heng

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**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/173 "2017-11-20T04:38:53Z")

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Eliminations:

Bardeen, John  
Bernard, Claude  
Boltzmann, Ludwig  
Brahmagupta  
Cannon, Annie Jump  
Hipparchus of Nicaea  
Leavitt, Henrietta Swan  
Meitner, Lise  
Noether, Emmy  
Shannon, Claude  
Thorne, Kip

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/174 "2017-11-20T06:12:08Z")

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Well now, before it becomes too late I can see I need to change a vote.

I’m going to give Christian Doppler a brief reprieve in order to throw up a shield in front of\*\* Lise Meitner\*\*, a lean mean sciencing machine who kept sciencing across three different countries and five decades, and a career including working around rules that barred her (as a woman) from going to university at all, having to move to Germany for a job because there were no science positions for women in Vienna, having to run for her life from the Nazis, and having to do research behind her department head’s back in Sweden, because he didn’t like women scientists. Despite all this she managed to take part in critical research in atomic theory, and was probably robbed of a Nobel prize for her work with Otto Hahn on nuclear fission.

In summary, new vote slate:

Ditch:  
Hippocrates  
Fleming  
Mead  
Bardeen  
Boltzmann  
Cannon  
Lyell  
Mach  
Smith  
Thorne

Keep:  
Meitner

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/175 "2017-11-20T09:17:29Z")

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ELIMINATE:

Babbage, Charles  
Cannon, Annie Jump  
Fleming, Alexander  
Galen, of Pergamon  
Harvey, William  
Lovelace, Ada  
Mead, Margaret  
Oppenheimer, Robert  
Pauling, Linus  
Thales

Keep:

Eratosthenes

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greatest-scientists-ever-elimination-game/800825/176 "2017-11-20T18:00:32Z")

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With deadline one hour away, these are the scientists with 2 or more votes:  
Cannon, Annie Jump : 4  
Thorne, Kip : 3  
Boltzmann, Ludwig : 2  
Brahmagupta : 2  
Fleming, Alexander : 2  
Mead, Margaret : 2  
Shannon, Claude : 2  
Thales : 2

Meitner, Lise : 3-1 = 1.99  
Bardeen, John : 2-1 = 0.99  
Franklin, Benjamin : 1-1 = 0  
Eratosthenes : 1-1 = 0

If there are no changes, then (following the precedent of #154) those with 2 or more votes will be eliminated — the first eight names on the list above.

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> [@septimus](#):
>
> With deadline one hour away, these are the scientists with 2 or more votes:  
> Cannon, Annie Jump : 4  
> Thorne, Kip : 3  
> Boltzmann, Ludwig : 2  
> Brahmagupta : 2  
> Fleming, Alexander : 2  
> Mead, Margaret : 2  
> Shannon, Claude : 2  
> Thales : 2
> 
> Meitner, Lise : 3-1 = 1.99  
> Bardeen, John : 2-1 = 0.99  
> Franklin, Benjamin : 1-1 = 0  
> Eratosthenes : 1-1 = 0
> 
> If there are no changes, then (following the precedent of #154) those with 2 or more votes will be eliminated — the first eight names on the list above.

I think you carried over some of this info from the previous round.

I’ll throw mine out there though:

Eliminate:  
Cannon  
Babbage  
Franklin, Benjamin  
Thorne  
Oppenheimer  
Lyell  
Hippocrates

Keep  
Bardeen 2 nobels and enabling all modern electronics means he’s gotta stay longer than most mid century physicists.

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If these latest votes are the last, there are 12 scientists will be eliminated:  
Cannon, Annie Jump : 5  
Thorne, Kip : 4  
Babbage, Charles : 2  
Boltzmann, Ludwig : 2  
Brahmagupta : 2  
Fleming, Alexander : 2  
Hippocrates of Cos : 2  
Lyell, Charles : 2  
Oppenheimer, Robert : 2  
Mead, Margaret : 2  
Shannon, Claude : 2  
Thales : 2  
I’d prefer not to eliminate scientists with only two Evict votes, but we have only five active participants and we need to continue pruning the list rapidly. Hopefully interest will pick up as the List gets smaller.

> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
>
> I think you carried over some of this info from the previous round.

I think I already mentioned that votes are carried over to subsequent rounds unless explicitly changed or revoked.

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\*\*Elimination Round #6 is over.

The next Vote-counting Elimination will be on Wednesday, Nov. 22 at 2 pm EST.  
Twelve scientists were eliminated this round, as shown in the preceding post.

For the next round each player has ten votes total: eight Evict votes, one Keep vote, and a tenth vote which can be spent as either Evict or Keep.\*\*

There are 77 scientists remaining on the list.

**Official Scientists List:**

Agassiz, Louis - biology, geology  
Al-Biruni, Abu Rayhan Muhammad - natural philosophy  
Al-Khwarizmi, Muhammad ibn Musa - math, astronomy  
Archimedes - math, physics  
Bardeen, John - physics, invention  
Bernard, Claude - physiology  
Berzelius, Jacob - chemistry  
Boas, Franz - anthropology  
Bohr, Niels - atomic physics  
Borlaug, Norman - agronomics  
Boyle, Robert - chemistry, physics  
Copernicus, Nicolas - astronomy  
Crick, Francis - Dna  
Curie, Marie - radioactivity  
Dalton, John - chemistry  
Darwin, Charles - biology  
Davy, Sir Humphrey - chemistry  
Dirac, Paul - physics  
Doppler, Christian - physics  
Einstein, Albert - physics  
Eratosthenes - math, astronomy  
Euclid - math  
Euler, Leonhard - math  
Faraday, Michael - electromagnetism, etc.  
Fermat, Pierre de - math, optics  
Fermi, Enrico - atomic physics  
Feynman, Richard - physics  
Franklin, Benjamin - physics, etc.  
Franklin, Rosalind - chemistry, X-ray crystallography  
Galen, of Pergamon - biology, medicine  
Galileo - physics, astronomy, etc.  
Gauss, Karl - math, astronomy  
Gell-Mann, Murray - physics  
Harvey, William - anatomy, blood  
Hawking, Stephen - cosmology  
Heisenberg, Werner - quantum theory  
Hilleman, Maurice - biology, vaccination; saved more lives  
Hipparchus, of Nicaea - astronomy, etc.  
Hubble, Edwin - astronomy  
Hutton, James - geologist  
Huygens, Christiaan - optics, physics  
Jenner, Edward - vaccination  
Kepler, Johannes - astronomy, math  
Lavoisier, Antoine - chemistry  
Leakey, Louis - anthropology  
Leavitt, Henrietta Swan - astronomy  
Leeuwenhoek, Antonie van - microbiology, microscopy  
Leibnitz, Gottfried - math, physics, etc.  
Linnaeus, Carolus - botany, taxonomy  
Lovelace, Ada Byron Countess of - computer science  
Mach, Ernst - physics, cosmology  
Maxwell, James Clerk - physics  
McClintock, Barbara - genetics  
Meitner, Lise - atomic physics  
Mendel, Gregor - genetics  
Mendeleev, Dmitri - chemistry  
Michelson, Albert - astronomy; speed of light  
Neumann, John von - computer science, etc.  
Newton, Sir Isaac - math, physics  
Noether, Emmy - math  
Pasteur, Louis - chemistry, biology  
Pauli, Wolfgang - quantum physics  
Pauling, Linus - chemistry  
Planck, Max - quantum physics  
Poincare, Henri - math  
Ptolemy - astronomy  
Rutherford, Ernest - nuclear physics, atomic theory, radioactivity.  
Salk, Jonas - medicine, vaccination  
Schrodinger, Erwin - wave mechanics  
Smith, William - geology  
Tesla, Nicolai - physics, invention  
Turing, Alan - computer science, etc.  
Vesalius, Andreas - founder of anatomical sciences  
Volta, Alessandro - chemistry, physics  
Watson, James - Dna  
Wegener, Alfred - meteorology, continental drift  
Zhang Heng - astronomy, mechanics

Eliminated:  
[del]Alhazen Ibn al-Haytham - physics, etc.[/del] 11/15  
[del]Anning, Mary - paleontology[/del] 11/15  
[del]Aristotle - philosophy, geology, biology, etc.[/del] 11/17  
[del]Arrow, Kenneth - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Babbage, Charles - computer science[/del] 11/20  
[del]Bacon, Francis - philosophy[/del] 11/17  
[del]Boltzmann, Ludwig - thermodynamics[/del] 11/20  
[del]Brahmagupta - math, astronomy[/del] 11/20  
[del]Braun, Wernher von - rocket science[/del] 11/13  
[del]Bruno, Giordano - philosophy[/del] 11/15  
[del]Cannon, Annie Jump - astronomy[/del] 11/20  
[del]Edison, Thomas Alva - invention[/del] 11/09  
[del]Fleming, Sir Alexander - medicine, biology[/del] 11/20  
[del]Freud, Sigmund - psychology[/del] 11/09  
[del]Friedman, Milton - economics[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ge Hong - philosophy, alchemy[/del] 11/09  
[del]Goddard, Robert - rocket science[/del] 11/13  
[del]Godel, Kurt - math[/del] 11/17  
[del]Goethe, Johann Wolfgang von - natural philosophy[/del] 11/13  
[del]Goodall, Jane - primatology[/del] 11/15  
[del]Gutenberg, Johannes - invention[/del] 11/11  
[del]Haber, Fritz - chemistry; invention (fertilizer, gas warfare)[/del] 11/15  
[del]Halley, Edmond - astronomy, etc.[/del] 11/13  
[del]Hamilton, William - astronomy, optics, math[/del] 11/15  
[del]Hippocrates, of Cos - medicine[/del] 11/20  
[del]Hopper, Grace - computer science[/del] 11/15  
[del]Ibn al-Nafis - anatomy, blood[/del] 11/15  
[del]Jung, Carl - psychology[/del] 11/11  
[del]Keynes, John Maynard - economics[/del] 11/13  
[del]Lamarr, Hedy - invention[/del] 11/11  
[del]Leonardo da Vinci - anatomy, invention, etc.[/del] 11/15  
[del]Liebig, Justus von - organic chemistry; a great practical scientist.[/del] 11/17  
[del]Lister, Joseph - antiseptics[/del] 11/17  
[del]Lyell, Charles - geology[/del] 11/20  
[del]Marconi, Guglielmo - radio transmission[/del] 11/15  
[del]Marsh, Othneil = paleontology[/del] 11/17  
[del]Mead, Margaret - anthropology[/del] 11/20  
[del]Morley, Edward - astronomy, chemistry, optics, and physics.[/del] 11/17  
[del]Mullis, Kary - biology[/del] 11/17  
[del]Nisibis, St. Jacob of - theology, founded early school[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ockham, William of - philosophy[/del] 11/11  
[del]Oppenheimer, Robert - atomic physics[/del] 11/20  
[del]Patterson. Clair - geochemistry[/del] 11/15  
[del]Pythagoras - math[/del] 11/17  
[del]Ricardo, David - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Rubin, Vera - astronomy[/del] 11/15  
[del]Russell, Bertrand - math[/del] 11/17  
[del]Sagan, Carl - astronomy[/del] 11/09  
[del]Sakharov, Andrei - nuclear physics[/del] 11/13  
[del]Samuelson, Paul - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Semmelweis, Ignaz - antiseptics[/del] 11/17  
[del]Shannon, Claude - computer science[/del] 11/20  
[del]Smith, Adam - economics[/del] 11/11  
[del]Thales, of Miletus - math[/del] 11/20  
[del]Thorne, Kip - physics[/del] 11/20  
[del]Tyson, Neil deGrasse - astrophysics, science popularizer[/del] 11/09  
[del]Ventner, Craig - genetics[/del] 11/15  
[del]Virchow, Rudolf - medicine, cell doctrine, etc.[/del] 11/13  
[del]Wigner, Eugene - physics, symmetry[/del] 11/17

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Firstly, I’m not sure how Ada Lovelace is hanging in there when Babbage and Hopper are gone. I respect the woman greatly but c’mon now.

Secondly, I want to give a shout out to someone I’ve just remembered who should have been on the original list: **[Arthur Eddington](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Eddington)**. He’d probably be gone by now anyway as he could be a bit sloppy around the edges and he treated Chandrasekhar rather badly over the issue of black holes, but he needed mentioning for his work on mathematics, astrophysics, relativity and - weirdly - cycling.

ELIMINATE

Davy, Humphrey  
Galen, of Pergamon  
Harvey, William  
Jenner, Edward  
Lovelace, Ada  
McClintock, Barbara  
Pauling, Linus  
Tesla, Nicolai

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Franklin, Benjamin  
Meitner, Lise

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