# Green Day - Why All the Hate?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/green-day-why-all-the-hate/312924>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 18, 2005, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/green-day-why-all-the-hate/312924 "2005-07-18T01:05:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![Dark\_Side\_of\_the\_Floyd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@Dark\_Side\_of\_the\_Floyd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dark_Side_of_the_Floyd)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/green-day-why-all-the-hate/312924/61 "2005-07-19T16:42:34Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> She’s obviously changed her tune in recent years, because quotes like this is exactly how I remember her:
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> > “I created Punk for this day and age. Do you see Britney walking around wearing ties and singing punk? Hell no. That’s what I do. I’m like a Sid Vicious for a new generation.”
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> Avril Lavigne (Seventeen Magazine, 2002)

Golly, she wears _ties_! :eek:

Please. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/green-day-why-all-the-hate/312924/62 "2005-07-19T16:53:00Z")

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See, this is why I like to regard being punk (or metal, or goth, or whatever your musical subculture is) as a continuum. Avril’s not punk, Rancid is, and Green Day falls somewhere in the middle.

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**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/green-day-why-all-the-hate/312924/63 "2005-07-19T17:17:40Z")

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> [@micahjn](#):
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> Just wanted to say nice post, **vtynos**. I hope you decide to join the boards.

I missed this the first time around, but I have to ditto this. **Vtynos** , I really dug your post and you’re a smart guy.

I think a lot of what people think about punk comes from the hardcore community. They were the ones who really started making their own labels and trying to be really authentic.  
Then again, the ideals have also been around for awhile. One of the original members of the Velvet Underground quit before their first gig because he thought getting paid was selling out.

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