# Greenpeace charged **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 23, 2004, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512 "2004-07-23T14:25:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/1 "2004-07-23T14:25:15Z")
The story [here](http://www.sitnews.us/0704news/072204/072204_greenpeace.html). They came to my community to “educate” us, using their usual half-truths and outright lies. Kiss my ass professional environmentalists. I’d rant more but I have to work. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/2 "2004-07-23T14:30:27Z")
Yeah, but its Greenpeace. Do as they say and obviously not as they do. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/3 "2004-07-23T14:31:29Z")
Feel free to add this ’ to my previous post. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/4 "2004-07-23T14:36:21Z")
Hmmm. As a long-time donator (albeit a skeptic one, I know they shoot themselves in the foot from time to time, but it’s a protest group, not Reuters), allow me to say that this was one collossally stupid mistake from the (Dutch, from the sound of it, anyway?) captain. Not only showing disregard for the Alaskan environment, but completely failing to see the negative PR associated with it. Dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/5 "2004-07-23T15:01:55Z")
You don’t understand - they’ve got good intentions, so everything they do is ok. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/6 "2004-07-23T15:09:34Z")
Man, that is one rusting hulk of a boat. Money’s obviously down from their heyday in the eighties. ---
**Author:** ![liirogue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dbc845/32.png) [@liirogue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liirogue)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/7 "2004-07-23T15:13:27Z")
Linky no worky ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/8 "2004-07-23T16:11:25Z")
The link works for me, but [here’s another one](http://www.azdailysun.com/non_sec/nav_includes/story.cfm?storyID=91140) for good measure. > [@](#): > > “We’re dealing with the issue but we’re maintaining focus on the forest,” said spokeswoman Mary MacNutt from the Arctic Sunrise Uh… Nah-- too easy. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/9 "2004-07-23T16:28:12Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > Man, that is one rusting hulk of a boat. Money’s obviously down from their heyday in the eighties. Well, they had to lay out all that scratch to replace the one the French bombed. ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/10 "2004-07-23T17:34:44Z")
I guess I can see how failing to file the proper documents might be an oversight – unlikey, but possible – but I don’t see how it could possibly be an oversight to resume your passage after being ordered to heave to and remain. ---
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2004, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/11 "2004-07-23T20:15:25Z")
> [@liirogue](#): > > Linky no worky OK try [this](http://www.sitnews.us/) one… Scroll down to: **"State charges Greenpeace for violating Alaska environmental laws"** ---
**Author:** ![liirogue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dbc845/32.png) [@liirogue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liirogue)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2004, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/12 "2004-07-24T15:39:48Z")
Thanks **Tony** and **Larry**. Those both work for me 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2004, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/13 "2004-07-24T19:45:04Z")
The guy who founded Greenpeace was a convicted criminal from Vancouver, Canada. He swindled investors on the Vancouver stock exchange…and did some jail time. The way Greenpeace solicits funds is pretty dishonest…they capture idealistic college kids, who bang on doors and beg for donations…they promise the kids a percentage of the take…however, Greenpeace screws its own collectors! They take most of the cash. ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2004, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/14 "2004-08-02T02:09:35Z")
Here’s a little story showing why the State of Alaska takes its paperwork so seriously: [Look out for those rocks!](http://www.cnn.com/2004/TRAVEL/08/01/cruise.ship.ap/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2004, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/15 "2004-08-02T02:54:44Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > Nah-- too easy. Your self-restraint is very impressive. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2004, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/16 "2004-08-02T06:31:54Z")
Note that they haven’t been charged with actually failing to have spill protection in place, but only not having the required bit of paper. Despite what that story says, its as technical a violation as you could have. No serious contradiction of basic principles seen so far. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2004, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/17 "2004-08-02T06:33:06Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > Man, that is one rusting hulk of a boat. Money’s obviously down from their heyday in the eighties. What picture are you working from? The one I’ve seen doesn’t show a rusting hulk of a boat. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2004, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/18 "2004-08-02T07:02:58Z")
This is too funny. Why is spilling 700 gallons of diesel fuel in what amounts to 70% of the Earth’s surface worse than spilling the same on land (30%)? No, seriously, where is Greenpeace on that one? Couldn’t be because they have a financial interest in it? Look, nature takes care of this shit. _ **Nothing** _ humans can do will destroy the planet. It’s fun to bandy about and use to scare people into writing a check. But we will never have the power over natural law to end everything the natural law has determined. _ **What we’re worried about is saving the human race.** _. If we aren’t here, does anyone really give a shit about a mouse in California? A beetle in South America or a spider in Australia? For over 5 billion years, nature has taken life forms as they’ve come, and set it up where the dominant can thrive. When one screwed up, or didn’t adapt, it became extinct. I have yet to see proof (other than hunting) where nature didn’t balance it out. (Notice I’m leaving religious issues out of this). You want to exploit a resource in a new land? Well, here’s a new disease for you. You want to ignore the new resource? Well, here’s a new resourse to treat the disease you’ll never find. I love whales and dolphins and otters and all the other cute animals. But to limit the dominant animal to “save the planet” is bullshit. The planet will **only** be in danger when the Sun begins to expand. (Talk about Global Warming!) I might get behind a “People Day”. Untill then, keep the “Eath Day” pablum to your own bank account. ---
**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2004, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/19 "2004-08-02T07:48:56Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > _ **What we’re worried about is saving the human race.** _. If we aren’t here, does anyone really give a shit about a mouse in California? A beetle in South America or a spider in Australia? I do. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2004, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512/20 "2004-08-02T08:00:50Z")
> [@sevastopol](#): > > I do. Get pissed about the millions of species that became extinct long before humans evolved and I’ll take you seriously. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greenpeace-charged/256512.md?page=2)