# Greer calls Princess Di "Devious Moron" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 20, 2007, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280 "2007-08-20T18:55:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TPWombat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbce88/32.png) [@TPWombat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TPWombat)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/21 "2007-08-21T11:07:36Z")
[QUOTE=Czarcasm] I’m so sorry. I shouldn’t have blown up like that. [/QUOTE] 😃 ---
**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/22 "2007-08-21T11:51:39Z")
SHE WUZ DA PEEPLES PRINCESS YOU F00LZ SHOW SUM RESPEK! (etc. etc.) Just be grateful you don’t have the Daily Telegraph over there. A paper so obsessed that its nickname is “The Daily Diana” ---
**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/23 "2007-08-21T12:02:29Z")
:smack: sorry - meant the Daily Express. Person at the desk opposite is reading the Torygraph! ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/24 "2007-08-21T12:28:55Z")
Princess Di was a young, uneducated and dysfunctional woman, yet became one of the most ubiquitous icons of our time. She was remarkable by how unremarkable she was. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/25 "2007-08-21T13:09:05Z")
[QUOTE=PunditLisa] Princess Di was a young, uneducated and dysfunctional woman, yet became one of the most ubiquitous icons of our time. She was remarkable by how unremarkable she was. [/QUOTE] And in the era of Paris Hilton, that isn’t even remarkable anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/26 "2007-08-21T14:27:56Z")
[QUOTE=Derleth] And in the era of Paris Hilton, that isn’t even remarkable anymore. [/QUOTE] At least Diana tried to do some good in the world, constrained as she was by her circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/27 "2007-08-21T14:38:03Z")
Hi. My name is Lib, and I liked Princess Di. I thought she was beautiful, bright, gracious, kind, and humble. I’ve seen and heard the testimonies from people whose spirits she lifted. People with AIDS. People with no hope. People whom no one else in her world would even speak to, much less touch. I thought she was a shining star, someone who went out and did what others only crowed about in philosophical musings. I do think she was naive, but naivety and stupidity are not the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/28 "2007-08-21T14:50:16Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] . I do think she was naive, but naivety and stupidity are not the same thing. [/QUOTE] After how long does playing the Naivety Card wear thin and become " Choses Stupidity" or " Self Induced Ignorance" over educating oneself? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/29 "2007-08-21T14:55:55Z")
[QUOTE=Shirley Ujest] After how long does playing the Naivety Card wear thin and become " Choses Stupidity" or " Self Induced Ignorance" over educating oneself? [/QUOTE] Go to hospitals and nursing homes all over the world. Put smiles on the faces of the sick and hopeless. Bring international attention to children crippled by land mines. Raise tens of millions of dollars for medical research, the arts, and philanthropic causes. When you’ve done all that, come back and ask your question. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/30 "2007-08-21T15:00:07Z")
Fair enough. Be right back! ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/31 "2007-08-21T15:07:00Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] Go to hospitals and nursing homes all over the world. Put smiles on the faces of the sick and hopeless. Bring international attention to children crippled by land mines. Raise tens of millions of dollars for medical research, the arts, and philanthropic causes. When you’ve done all that, come back and ask your question. [/QUOTE] Good grief, if I had the money (and the face/body) to do so, I still wouldn’t generate all the press she did. Every so often there are women ( not men, interestingly enough.) that the world salvers after to the point of stalker obsession. The question is is would she have done all that charity work if she didn’t generate so much press? How much charity does the rest of Charles’ horse faced family do with nary a flank of photog’s after them 24/7 as opportunists jumped in head first to cash in on her image. She seemed to have two distinct persona’s. Her public life of raising awareness, which is commended, and the vapid insecure, suicidal flakey side that only slowly came out after she died. Oh yeah, I have done loads of volunteer work in a group home. For my brother. Not just press visits for a couple minutes in a perfectly lit, clean, non-smelly room. It is one thing to show up for something that is depressing, smelly and warm day after day and quite another for a hour of photo ops and hugging. Where is my fuckin’ tiara? ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/32 "2007-08-21T15:09:42Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] Go to hospitals and nursing homes all over the world. Put smiles on the faces of the sick and hopeless. Bring international attention to children crippled by land mines. Raise tens of millions of dollars for medical research, the arts, and philanthropic causes. When you’ve done all that, come back and ask your question. [/QUOTE] Exactly…on a public level, she did all that was asked of her, and more. [QUOTE=Shirley Ujest] After how long does playing the Naivety Card wear thin and become " Choses Stupidity" or " Self Induced Ignorance" over educating oneself? [/QUOTE] I don’t see Diana as being ignorant at all. Is Paris Hilton even dimly aware of the suffering in the world? Who knows? But Diana went out there and found places of suffering where she could be of help. That is far from choosing to be willfully ignorant. In what areas do you believe she was lacking, in terms of educating herself? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/33 "2007-08-21T15:27:38Z")
[QUOTE=Shirley Ujest] Where is my fuckin’ tiara? [/QUOTE] I’m sure you can get one on E-bay. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/34 "2007-08-21T15:41:31Z")
Okay, so I’ve never paid attention to stuff about Diana. Could someone point me somewhere that explains why she is supposed to be stupid/naive/whatever? -FrL- ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/35 "2007-08-21T15:41:33Z")
[QUOTE=Bill Door] I have never understood the American fascination with royalty. [/QUOTE] We like it because we don’t have to pay for it. ---
**Author:** ![Spoleto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Spoleto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoleto)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/36 "2007-08-21T16:20:41Z")
[QUOTE=Spectre of Pithecanthropus] _Are_ morons devious? I didn’t think the two went together. [/QUOTE] ditto… it’s really an oxyMORON … 😃 pun intended ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/37 "2007-08-21T16:26:48Z")
[QUOTE=Frylock] Okay, so I’ve never paid attention to stuff about Diana. Could someone point me somewhere that explains why she is supposed to be stupid/naive/whatever? -FrL- [/QUOTE] A good resource to start with would be [www.dianaisstupid.com](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0). ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/38 "2007-08-21T16:35:50Z")
[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip] A good resource to start with would be [www.dianaisstupid.com](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0). [/QUOTE] A Rick Astley video? ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/39 "2007-08-21T17:48:22Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] Go to hospitals and nursing homes all over the world. Put smiles on the faces of the sick and hopeless. Bring international attention to children crippled by land mines. Raise tens of millions of dollars for medical research, the arts, and philanthropic causes. When you’ve done all that, come back and ask your question. [/QUOTE] If I could suckle on the taxpayers’ teat and live in the lap of luxury, I think I would be more than willing to do charity work. Sounds like a pretty good lifestyle after all. ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280/40 "2007-08-21T19:10:12Z")
I simply do not believe Di ever had to get up and drive to work in the snow, fog and crap to work in some shitty dead end job for shitty pay. I have very little sympathy for her, if poverty is such a noble thing, then why don’t the rich have the market cornered. Fuck her! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greer-calls-princess-di-devious-moron/416280.md?page=3)