# Greetings from Mount Kilauea :) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 2, 2016, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533 "2016-08-02T08:17:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/121 "2018-06-08T22:37:01Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > You _don’t_ leave your pets behind! :mad: This really depresses me. Imagine the terror of the animals, their pain. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/122 "2018-06-08T23:02:13Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Some Bozo in Leilani estates is up for life in prison [for shooting at other local residents he mistook for looters](http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2018/05/31/hawaii-news/leilani-shooting-suspect-makes-court-appearance/). The perp has a record on the mainland. A lot of kooks have used Puna as a place to disappear into. > > Excerpt: **“Two of the charges against Hubbard, first-degree robbery and carrying a firearm in the commission of a separate felony, normally are Class A felonies punishable by up to 20 years apiece. But because the incident happened during a declared emergency and 11 felony charges have been filed, the complaint has language seeking possible extended sentencing if Hubbard is convicted of those charges.”** > > Meanwhile, total mandatory evacuations are now under way. If anyone is left there, they’re completely on their own. No one is going to come help them now. [More on this from the lady who filmed it](https://apnews.com/80044e44210241b286554328c7728b36/Hawaii-lava-evacuee-recounts-neighborhood-shooting-near-flow): > [@](#): > > The man parked his truck behind her and stomped out, she said. “I just assumed he was somebody coming to look at the lava like everybody else,” she said. > > “When he pulled out his gun, there was nothing I could do,” she said, adding that she never expected anyone to have a weapon. “I wasn’t even expecting the attitude he came on with.” > [@](#): > > “Everyone is always so cordial and helpful with one another,” she said. “For this guy to come on with such an aggressive attitude was really a surprise to me.” > > Hubbard appeared Thursday in state court on the Big Island. State Public Defender Jack Tonaki, whose office is representing him, said it’s too early to comment. > > Ethan Edwards, identified in court documents as the victim, told the AP in a Facebook message that he was headed to Hubbard’s preliminary hearing. According to court minutes online, Edwards testified at Hubbard’s preliminary hearing, which is scheduled to continue June 22. So we’ll see what happens in 14 days. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/123 "2018-06-09T00:49:02Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > This really depresses me. Imagine the terror of the animals, their pain. ☹ That is the life of animals, my friend. And has been for millions of years. Very few die peacefully of old age. And people are just another type of animal. Only recently has a peaceful death become somewhat common, much less the expectation, for most folks. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/124 "2018-06-09T07:13:20Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > From State of Hawaii Dept. of Land & Natural Resources on the [Lava Tree State Monument page](http://dlnr.hawaii.gov/dsp/parks/hawaii/lava-tree-state-monument/) [emphasis mine]: > [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Aw, man. I like that place. > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I have not heard whether the lava hit it. Well, it did at some point. 😉 As for leaving pets behind, I can only hope it was mainly a situation in which the humans suddenly and unexpectedly found themselves unable to go back. But the TV news showed a 15-year-old dog rescued. Poor thing. Medium-sized. They said a large bag of dog food was found left open nearby, so someone had time to do that. But the dog had not had water for days. Seemed to have a broken hip and maybe a broken tail, although it still wagged it at the rescuers. Some lady has adopted him at least temporarily. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/125 "2018-06-09T15:17:46Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Well, it did at some point. 😉 > > As for leaving pets behind, I can only hope it was mainly a situation in which the humans suddenly and unexpectedly found themselves unable to go back. But the TV news showed a 15-year-old dog rescued. Poor thing. Medium-sized. They said a large bag of dog food was found left open nearby, so someone had time to do that. But the dog had not had water for days. Seemed to have a broken hip and maybe a broken tail, although it still wagged it at the rescuers. **Some lady has adopted him at least temporarily**. If she wants the dog she should be allowed to keep it. The owner’s right was cut when they abandoned the animal. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/126 "2018-06-09T15:41:14Z")
Not to alarm anyone but the [Steamboat Geyser](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steamboat_Geyser) at Yellowstone has started spouting off at a record-setting pace. It’s erupted eight times in the last three months, starting on March 15. > **[Yellowstone Geyser Erupts Eight Times in Three Months](https://www.newsweek.com/yellowstone-steamboat-geyser-eruption-old-faithful-964542)** > > "The first thing that comes to my mind when I think back on it was just how loud it was, the roar of the eruption." It’s a situation that University of Utah geologist, Jamie Farrell, calls “a really exciting time for the Norris Geyser Basin”. Sleep well, everyone! ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/127 "2018-06-09T23:11:32Z")
Technically, Yellowstone is always “erupting”, that’s where all those volcanic features come from. I don’t think I’ll be losing sleep over it. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/128 "2018-06-10T02:33:09Z")
Right. But this geyser doesn’t erupt (or spout or whatever geysers do) on the regular. Most of them don’t, actually. Only Old Faithful has any sort of consistency. Before this streak started in March, the Steamboat geyser hadn’t popped since September, 2014. Now it’s about once every 8 days. Probably nothing. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/129 "2018-06-14T12:06:05Z")
After watching a volcano report on YouTube for the umpteenth day I had a sudden thought. Are there Japanese news teams there in force? It would seem they have an interest, living on a number of volcanos of their own. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/130 "2018-06-14T12:26:17Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > After watching a volcano report on YouTube for the umpteenth day I had a sudden thought. Are there Japanese news teams there in force? It would seem they have an interest, living on a number of volcanos of their own. It would seem to me to be a reason for a _lack_ of interest. You don’t see Alaskan reporters flocking to cover snowfall in the lower 48. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/131 "2018-06-15T13:59:20Z")
Mrs. L.A.'s Hawai’i Volcanoes National Park shirt is on a chair on the deck. (It’s long-sleeve, so she can put it on if it gets too cold.) Since it’s from Hawaii, I want to pronounce it ‘vahl-can-oh-ees’. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/132 "2018-06-15T15:07:49Z")
Huh. I figured this bump would be about [the olivine](https://www.sciencealert.com/hawaii-kilauea-volcano-olivine-peridot-gems-recent-eruptions). (Profoundly common in the crust and mantle, but weathers quickly on the surface.) ---
**Author:** ![betterlifethroughchemistry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/betterlifethroughchemistry/32/3094_2.png) [@betterlifethroughchemistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betterlifethroughchemistry)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/133 "2018-06-16T04:05:35Z")
> [@Xema](#): > > But you do hafta wonder about the wisdom of building streets and houses in an area whose fate, in the very near geological term, is almost inevitable obliteration. When my parents bought a beach house on the Outer Banks in 1997, my father said to me, “Gee, I just hope we don’t get hit by a big hurricane”, I said, "Dad, it’s not ‘IF’ you get hit by a major hurricane, it’s a matter of ‘WHEN’ "… ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/134 "2018-06-16T06:31:56Z")
[Animal rescue task force formed for Kilauea eruption](https://www.hawaii247.com/2018/06/13/animal-rescue-task-force-formed-for-kilauea-eruption/) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/135 "2018-06-21T23:19:14Z")
[Fucking tourists](http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/38441566/dlnr-lava-loiterers-face-jail-time-5000-penalty) \*… people continue to illegally enter spaces cordoned off by Big Island authorities to gawk or snap a picture of lava flows on the Big Island. In the past 10 days, about a dozen people have been cited for loitering in lava zones, some of whom are eligible to be disciplined under new guidelines … (DLNR says) they have arrested about 40 people for loitering in lava zones … Those caught and cited by DLNR officials can be fined up to $5,000 and given up to a year of jail time.\* ---
**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/136 "2018-06-21T23:48:30Z")
I just got back from the Puna area where Kilauea is erupting. The National Guard has set up a check point on the highway that leads to the lava activity, but we were just waved through without questioning the first time at the check point. The second time we went through, we were questioned, but told them we were just going down the road to pick up some materials for a garage I am building. The security guard said, “ok” and let us through. He didn’t ask for any specifics as to exactly where we were going and why. (BTW we were really picking up materials.) My point is that is seems that its pretty easy to get through the check point and head for the lava. Maybe it was my old truck (and not a shiny new rental car) that got me through, but I think that they should make it a little more difficult to get through the check point. Traffic was very light, so more questioning would not hold a line of cars up. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/137 "2018-06-22T05:33:12Z")
Can’t find the article but the eruption has exceeded the volume of previous (since we’ve been looking) flows. Somewhere around 145 million cubic yards (could have been meters). They evacuated the exhibits/materials/files/etc… from Jaggar museum in the last few days. Crater collapse, though still a ways off, is creeping closer. That and earthquake damage - building cracks, loss of water, no electricity - prompted the action. Official site: HVO / USGS - [https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/observatories/hvo/activity\_2018.html](https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/observatories/hvo/activity_2018.html) Make sure Kilauea is the selected volcano. Daily updates - been boring lately - and great photos/videos under the multimedia tab. One photo shows the road to the old overlook parking lot ending in the newly expanded crater. The parking lot went deep a few days ago. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2018, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/138 "2018-06-24T06:56:56Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Can’t find the article but the eruption has exceeded the volume of previous (since we’ve been looking) flows. Somewhere around 145 million cubic yards (could have been meters). Meters. I can’t find the Hawaii News Now story containing it, but Wednesday I quoted it to a friend coming here soon: **“The present flow has produced 145 million cubic meters of lava over 47 days compared with 81 million cu m over 88 days in 1955 and 122 million cu m over 37 days in 1960.”** That was three days ago, and it’s still going strong. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/139 "2018-07-05T03:55:36Z")
[Kilauea is making its own weather](https://earther.com/kilauea-made-its-own-weather-1826395615) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533/140 "2018-07-17T13:14:10Z")
[War declared](https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-44851526)? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-from-mount-kilauea/761533.md?page=8)