# Greetings. My name is Crandall Spondular **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 4, 2007, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730 "2007-12-04T00:19:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/201 "2008-01-23T01:24:58Z")
[QUOTE=appleciders] True. I mean, if he had the power to do anything to you, he wouldn’t be phishing. I still can’t believe that he bothered to respond. [/QUOTE] I reckon I might be able to brush off the arse picture as a genuine mistake - meant to send one file - accidentally sent another… ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/202 "2008-01-23T02:33:59Z")
[QUOTE=Mangetout] I reckon I might be able to brush off the arse picture as a genuine mistake - meant to send one file - accidentally sent another… [/QUOTE] Still… I’ll be impressed if this can be strung out much further. I mean, this is really at an impass right now- you’ve lied and told him that the WU money can be picked up, and it clearly isn’t. To keep this going more than a bit more, I think you’ll need to give him the illusion of progress, maybe by preparing another way to get the fake money to him. Honestly, mailing it could be worth it. How much does it cost to mail a letter to Nigeria? If it’s just one stamp, filling that with porn would be hysterical and economical. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/203 "2008-01-23T03:49:09Z")
[QUOTE=Robot Arm] Is there a possibility that he’s stringing you along now? You know, to keep you occupied so you can’t turn your attention to other scammers. [/QUOTE] I doubt that one scammer cares that much about others. But it’s still likely he’s stringing you along. At the least, he’s putting in minimal attention at a remote possibility that it might pay off. That’s why the quality of the English gets worse and worse. Scambaiting is old hat. Most of the scammers probably know about it, and it’s not even that amusing anymore. Even if he knew that you were posting all of this on some message board, he probably wouldn’t care. The real question is: “Who is wasting whose time?” This thread has gone on for, what, five pages? ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/204 "2008-01-23T05:35:52Z")
[QUOTE=Mangetout] Too late! I have unleashed the arse of doom! I can’t link to the image I sent, for various reasons - including board rules and my own reluctance to host such an image on my own webspace, but if you do a google image search for the phrase _cock for this arse_, you’ll quickly find the arse I’ve chosen to send this time. [/QUOTE] :eek: ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/205 "2008-01-23T06:38:38Z")
[QUOTE=Mangetout] I reckon I might be able to brush off the arse picture as a genuine mistake - meant to send one file - accidentally sent another… [/QUOTE] Maybe… I know it’s late in the game… but just maybe, might you be able to redirect him to [this gentleman?](http://www.bbspot.com/News/2003/09/nigerian_millions.html) That would be 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/206 "2008-01-23T16:44:23Z")
Going forward I will now respond to any nigerian scam e-mail with the following: YOU SEE YOUR LIFE (Apparently it’s some kind of threat) ---
**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/207 "2008-01-23T18:10:45Z")
[QUOTE=Hampshire] (Apparently it’s some kind of threat) [/QUOTE] I’m thinking he means that the Hairy Arse = **Mangetout** ’s life. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/208 "2008-01-24T08:42:56Z")
Well, I’m still here. Dr Brunton isn’t responding any more though. Oh well. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/209 "2008-01-24T09:49:16Z")
Yes, you had your money’s worth out of that one. Well played, sir. _doffs cap_ ---
**Author:** ![ChiefScott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@ChiefScott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChiefScott)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/210 "2008-01-24T15:56:39Z")
\ Good form, sir. Thanks for the entertainment. \ ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/211 "2008-01-24T16:03:02Z")
I sent him this last night, but I really think he’s gone for good now. > [@](#): > > Dear Dr Brunton. > > What can I say? I’ve just realised that the file I sent you wasn’t the transfer document at all, but was a copy of something else I had been looking at on the internet. > > I’m really so very sorry about this mix-up and I now completely understand why you replied in the way you did. Sorry. > > Are you still prepared to proceed with the transaction? I will completely understand if this error on my part makes you reluctant to do so. > > Kind regards > Crandall ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/212 "2008-01-24T16:48:17Z")
I think you`ve squeezed this guuy for all it`s worth. Time to send an e-mail saying: You`ve been sporked! ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/213 "2008-01-24T17:42:18Z")
Good show, **Mangetout**. Kept me in stitches all along! ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/214 "2008-01-25T10:08:21Z")
This is weird. Not related to the Dr Brunton/Sandra Dickson thing, but happening at the same time (and I’m not going to play this one for a long time, so it’s not worthy of its own thread… I received this the other day: > [@](#): > > De Nederlandse Staatsloterij > Paleisstraat 5 > 2514 JA Den Haag > > YOUR EMAIL HAVE WON: CONTACT CLAIM OFFICE > REFERENCE NUMBER: XUL/3197/7391/01 > BATCH NUMBER: 18/790/RNL LUCKY NUMBER: 2267894-7 > > ``` > ============================================ > > ``` > > All response to the claims manager via email below or Fax > Mr. Eddy Van Bakker. > EMAIL: [snipped] > Tel: [snipped] TelFax: [snipped] > ============================================= > Dear Winner, > We are happy to inform you that you have emerged a winner under the First Category of our staatsloterij Promotion. Winners were picked by computerized system, drawn from company and individual e-mail addresses worldwide. The draws is officially announced today 18th of January 2008.You have therefore been awarded a lump sum pay out of 700,000.00(Seven hundred thousand Euros), which is the winning payout for Category A winners. > > To claim your prize Contact the Financial Claims Manager office with the underlisted informations as soon as possible: > > Full Name…, Address,… Country,… Age,… Sex,… Occupation,… Phone,… Fax… and your Lucky Ticket number: 2267894-7 and REFERENCE NUMBER: XUL/3197/7391/01 > BATCH NUMBER:18/790/RNL > > Kindly contact staatsloterij claim department immediately for due processing and remittance of your prize money to your destination. > > Claims Manager: > Mr. Eddy Van Bakker. > Claims Department > EMAIL :[snipped] > PHONE NUMBER: [snipped] > TelFAX NUMBER: [snipped] > Sincerely Yours > Mrs Barbera De Graft > PROMOTION CORDINATOR So I replied, as usual, with: > [@](#): > > That’s fantastic! I can hardly believe my luck! > > How do I claim the money? And received in return: > [@](#): > > From: Mr. Jude Fabian. > Payment Legal Department. > Amsterdam- Netherlands. > Date: 23-01-2008. > > Attn: Winner, > > We the entire staff of STAATSLOTERIJ.NL wish to congratulate you for being one of the lucky winners in this season’s lottery promotion held in the Netherlands.Be informed that this is an independent promotion and is unconnected to any publication. No purchase necessary,This lottery promotion was conducted through the Internet worldwide random selection, the participants and winners where picked randomly Through a computer ballot system drawn from 2,500,000 email addresses of individuals and companies from Africa, America, Asia, Australia, Europe, Middle East, and Oceania as part of our International Promotions Program and you have been picked as one of the lucky winners. Note that all claims process and clearance procedures must be duly completed not later than 15 Working days from the day you receive the winning notification. > You have therefore been approved to claim a total sum of 1,000,000.00 (One million Euros in cash credited to file KPC/9080118308/02/TCA. This is from a total cash prize of 10,000,000.00 Million Euros shared amongst the first Ten (10) lucky winners in this category A + (Plus). You are advised to treat this with all seriousness. > > Outlined herein are the terms and conditions for claiming your prize: > > Firstly, our ultimate concern is to ensure that winners get their winning prize without any problem after all their particulars have been forwarded to enabling us to process his or her winnings of this category. The processing of your lottery winning will be completed within Two (2) working days and subsequently you will receive the total sum of One million Euros (1,000,000.00). > Upon the receipt of the claim processing form your documented file will now be forwarded to our affiliate paying bank for immediate transfer of your winning to you in any manner you deem fit to receive it, and the contact of the paying bank will be given to you for further transfer process of your funds. > For security reasons, you are advised to keep your winning information confidential till your claims is processed and your money remitted to you in whatever manner you deem fit to claim your prize. This is a part of our precautionary measure to avoid double claiming and unwarranted abuse of this program by some unscrupulous elements. > You are to fill the Claim form attached to this mail to enable us file in your name for payment, Please provide the following information’s included on the Claim Processing Form. > > Sincerely, > > Mr. Jude Fabian. > (Foreign Transfer Manager) > StaatsLoterij International Promo. To which I replied: > [@](#): > > Hi there > > I filled in the form and scanned it back into the computer - I hope that’s what you meant. Here is the document. > > Sincerely > Myrtle Bygone The attached file was the PDF containing\*\* the hairy arse photo\*\*. I didn’t expect, therefore, to receive this: > [@](#): > > From: Mr. Duke Jenkins. > Payment Legal Department. > Amsterdam- Netherlands . > Date: 25-01-2008. > > Attn: Myrtle Bygone, > > This is to notify you that we are in receipt of your mail and immediate action has been taken. Your winnings of 1 million Euros has been processed .Please contact our paying bank for proceed and Release of your funds into your nominated bank account. > > Bank Details: > > POST BANK BV > Address; Gravesandstraat 107, 1092GB > Amsterdam - Netherlands > TEL:[snipped] > FAX:[snipped] > E-mail;[snipped] > > CONTACT PERSON;MR.HARRY VAN DIJK. > > We advise you send them a mail immediately as a copy of your documented file has been forwarded to our paying bank for immediate payment action.This is the instruction from our Payment center that all prize money should be claimed as soon as possible. > > Should you have any questions, do not hesitate to contact us. > > Once again accept our congratulations. > > Cheers! > > Mr. Duke Jenkins. > (Foreign Transfer Manager) > StaatsLoterij International Promo. > TEL: [snipped] > Fax: [snipped] > Email: [snipped] Now, I’m sure this probably just means they didn’t even bother to open the file I sent them - but if so, that’s quite an interesting insight into their methods… ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/215 "2008-01-25T11:26:29Z")
Being Dutch, I’m just a little bit miffed that these folks impersonate my very dear own Dutch Staatsloterij. :mad: I wonder if that means they have some strawman located in the Netherlands. But I’m surprised at the method too. Wasn’t that “form” you were to fill out supposed to contain the very info the scammers are looking for? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/216 "2008-01-25T11:51:30Z")
[QUOTE=Maastricht] Being Dutch, I’m just a little bit miffed that these folks impersonate my very dear own Dutch Staatsloterij. :mad: I wonder if that means they have some strawman located in the Netherlands. But I’m surprised at the method too. Wasn’t that “form” you were to fill out supposed to contain the very info the scammers are looking for? [/QUOTE] I don’t think so - I played a while with one of these scammers before - giving them false contact info (that actually was the address and phone number of a police station in London) - I was thinking it would be an identity theft scam, but it turns out it’s just the old advance fee fraud - I think they ask for the contact details first, so that they can phone up the victim and lean on him/her to try to force it through, but only if things move too slowly by email. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/217 "2008-01-25T11:58:30Z")
BTW, I just checked the IP addresses in the headers of that scam email and it does appear to originate from NL. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/218 "2008-01-25T13:47:38Z")
Wait! Dr Brunton is back! - responding to my message (in post #211 up there) with: > [@](#): > > OK A man of few words, to be sure. Now, I’m certain he hardly believes me at all, but is just going through the motions on the very slim hope I am in earnest and it’s all been just bad luck (or maybe he’s just playing the game here). Anyway, it’s a chance to get him to look at one more offensive image, so let’s see what I can find… ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/219 "2008-01-25T13:55:48Z")
[QUOTE=Mangetout] BTW, I just checked the IP addresses in the headers of that scam email and it does appear to originate from NL. [/QUOTE] They’re closing in on you! These things are like franchises, I think, and they have willing participants across the globe - your original scammer probably bounces you around to other associates around the world. YOU SEE YOUR LIFE ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2008, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730/220 "2008-01-25T14:05:08Z")
I think I might send Dr Brunton a picture of goatse, photoshopped with little flags that say “You’ve been sporked!” and “YOU SEE YOUR LIFE”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greetings-my-name-is-crandall-spondular/428730.md?page=12)