# Greg House as a metaphor for governments

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 13, 2011, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greg-house-as-a-metaphor-for-governments/588939 "2011-07-13T23:09:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greg-house-as-a-metaphor-for-governments/588939/1 "2011-07-13T23:09:02Z")

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> [@David Shore on House Finale (Spoilers)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/david-shore-on-house-finale-spoilers/588930/3):
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> He had no way of knowing whether Cuddy’s kid was in the room, as she was too short to be seen from outside. So - depraved indifference to human life rather than attempted murder. Whatever. All the ending did was complete House’s transition from damaged antihero to whiney asshole. I used to love the character, but I now now longer care if he lives or dies.

I read this, and I thought–sorry, Alessan–wow, that’s how I feel about the State of Israel! Or, really, the USA.

Anyone else feel like there’s a point at which the authorities have become too immoral for you to care what happens to them?

I may like the people who make up the state, & yet find the government & military abhorrent in practice.

Once you’ve decided that it doesn’t count as hostilities if you’re using flying death machines instead of putting your own men in harm’s way, you’ve clearly lost sight of absolutes.

I don’t especially object to the USA getting involved in Libya & I find it strange that Congress has decided this is the bridge too far. But how many other countries are we sending drones into?

I don’t like looking at my country & thinking a comparison to Palpatine’s empire is justified.

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I still like Greg House. Someone can do foolish things & still be loved.

And governments still serve some good purposes. And the peoples of those nations have needs.

But I don’t think Israel will get off the road to a horrifying war of extermination, & I don’t think the USA is getting better instead of worse either.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greg-house-as-a-metaphor-for-governments/588939/2 "2011-07-14T01:22:32Z")

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Meh.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greg-house-as-a-metaphor-for-governments/588939/3 "2011-07-15T22:31:54Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Someone can do foolish things & still be loved.

House’s ramming his car into Cuddy’s house wasn’t FOOLISH. It was EVIL. He could have killed people. He could have killed the little girl.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greg-house-as-a-metaphor-for-governments/588939/4 "2011-07-15T23:11:53Z")

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Yes. Rather like trying to assassinate a Muslim Arab cleric whose chief “crime” is telling Arabs they are within Islam to defend their homelands.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greg-house-as-a-metaphor-for-governments/588939/5 "2011-07-15T23:34:03Z")

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Even in a great show such as House, I don’t expect there to be as much depth such as Alessan thinks there was. I think the writers simply said to each other “What crazy thing can we have House do this season?” and decided to crash the car into Cuddy’s house. I wouldn’t be surprised if they actually forgot she has a kid, and I’m pretty certain there wouldn’t be a mention of it next season

The whole thing is about House and Cuddy, everyone else is just spectators. When the writers wrote House to do that, I’m certain they simply felt that there needed to be a bang for the season to go out on. The guy was simply the catalyst House needed to perform his action. The car was the vehicle in which the action was performed, and the house was the target (not Cuddy, House had no plans to kill anyone)

The guy’s got a drug problem and is erratic and know for doing crazy things. He won’t be made to face the fact that it was attempted murder. At the worst, he gets fired or placed into another mental hospital, not jail. House in jail is not going to be fun to watch, so they won’t do it (or he’ll be in jail for 1 episode but get bailed out or something)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greg-house-as-a-metaphor-for-governments/588939/6 "2011-07-15T23:36:20Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Anyone else feel like there’s a point at which the authorities have become too immoral for you to care what happens to them?

Sure, but I don’t get that feeling from _House,_ I get it from _Law & Order._

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greg-house-as-a-metaphor-for-governments/588939/7 "2011-07-15T23:37:17Z")

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This thread is baffling to me.

ETA: OK, wait, I think I get it. It’s a pitting of Israel. Right?

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greg-house-as-a-metaphor-for-governments/588939/8 "2011-07-16T00:07:47Z")

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It’s never Cyprus.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greg-house-as-a-metaphor-for-governments/588939/9 "2011-07-16T01:49:58Z")

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It was going to be an Israel pit, but I find my own nation more loathsome, actually.

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**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greg-house-as-a-metaphor-for-governments/588939/10 "2011-07-16T13:42:15Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> It was going to be an Israel pit, but I find my own nation more loathsome, actually.

Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greg-house-as-a-metaphor-for-governments/588939/11 "2011-07-16T22:06:22Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> It was going to be an Israel pit, but I find my own nation more loathsome, actually.

So, you’re a Cypriot? Greek or Turkish?
