# GRETCHEN IS NOT THE SURVIVOR!!!!!!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 13, 2000, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gretchen-is-not-the-survivor/25378 "2000-07-13T01:02:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![StrTrkr777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@StrTrkr777](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StrTrkr777)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2000, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gretchen-is-not-the-survivor/25378/41 "2000-07-13T19:11:18Z")
Yeah, IIRC, she did write his name upside down, probably for the camera and to hide her handwriting, so she probably did invert it accidentally. I thought is was kind of funny when the rafting guide (Kelly?) got all mad that Gervaise had beaten her in the rowing event and started crying. I mean no offense to her, but he looks like a pretty strong guy and eventhough she guides rafts for a living, did she really expect to be able to out paddle him? At least Susan did not cry when Joel beat her out on the spear throwing. Jeffery ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2000, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gretchen-is-not-the-survivor/25378/42 "2000-07-13T21:28:11Z")
Mundane musings: 1. I think the “ambassadors” would have scored BIG points had they saved at least 2 bottles of wine to share with the group later. (No one had to know they had 4 to begin with) Good will goes a long way, people. 2. I agree they were jerks for bragging about the dinner. I would have voted them off for being so insensitive. 3. If they have no luxuries, then why aren’t Jenna’s pits hairy??? ---
**Author:** ![StrTrkr777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@StrTrkr777](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StrTrkr777)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2000, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gretchen-is-not-the-survivor/25378/43 "2000-07-13T22:22:21Z")
I had thought about them bringing back goodies to the folks, but I figured that the PTB would not let them take any wine or anything like that back. Besides Sean was trying to get her liquored up to hit the homerun that they were discussing. Jeffery ---
**Author:** ![krish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c57346/32.png) [@krish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/krish)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2000, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gretchen-is-not-the-survivor/25378/44 "2000-07-13T22:59:30Z")
Here’s my theory on why Greg will be the next one voted off next week. I’ve seen a picture with Gervase wearing a necklace and eight other tribe members in the area, suggesting that he has immunity in the the next vote. [http://www.survivorsucks.com/images/stills/tribalcouncil.large.jpg](http://www.survivorsucks.com/images/stills/tribalcouncil.large.jpg) According to a Headline News clip, Greg wins the next reward challenge. I think that will clearly make Greg a threat, causing the Alliance to vote against him. While the Alliance still does not have a majority, Sean stated in the last episode that he’s voting alphabetically. While Gervase is next, he’ll have immunity, forcing a fifth and majority vote for Greg. Of course, in order for my theory to work, the Alliance must still remain in tact, Sean should continue voting without a clear strategy, and Greg should be perceived as a threat. I guess we’ll wait until next Wednesday to find out. ---
**Author:** ![Lawmill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lawmill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lawmill)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2000, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gretchen-is-not-the-survivor/25378/45 "2000-07-13T23:48:57Z")
I think Richard and crew know that Greg is the leader of the ex-Pagongers. However, they couldn’t eliminate him, so they had to go with Gretchen. If Greg doesn’t convince the 5 non-alliance people to vote as a bloc, then Richard’s alliance will just eliminate the Pagongers and Sean one by one. [www.survivorsucks.com](http://www.survivorsucks.com) has boards which cover all of this in great detail. Please, keep spoilers to yourselves though. I’d rather find out for myself. ---
**Author:** ![lolagranola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ea5d25/32.png) [@lolagranola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lolagranola)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gretchen-is-not-the-survivor/25378/46 "2000-07-14T00:55:15Z")
> [@](#): > > 1. If they have no luxuries, then why aren’t Jenna’s pits hairy??? My sister and I had a talk about that. She thought it was suspicious, I thought that since a good wax job usually lasts each of us most of the summer, and they’ve only been there 3 weeks (although it’s obviously been longer from the viewers point of view), the wax job is still holding. While they were tying ropes last night, it did look like some of the girls are starting to grow armpit hair. ---
**Author:** ![kellibelli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@kellibelli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kellibelli)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gretchen-is-not-the-survivor/25378/47 "2000-07-14T01:00:05Z")
I could see bug bite scabs on Coleens legs last night. One of the men brought a razor, maybe he shared? You probably got the wax thing right though…they knew they were gonna be on TV for everyone to see, I am sure they planned for hair growth. Here is a question: How are they dealing with periods?? ---
**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gretchen-is-not-the-survivor/25378/48 "2000-07-14T01:31:10Z")
About the shaving: I agree with the waxing theory, but they were all allowed to bring one luxury item to the island. A razor would be a luxury to me at that point. However, the menstration issue had me wondering last night, too. They’ve been there for 21 days. If all of the women had their periods right before getting there, then they haven’t had to deal with it yet. But chances are at least one of them has. On second thought, I really don’t want to know. Too much info. ---
**Author:** ![kellibelli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@kellibelli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kellibelli)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gretchen-is-not-the-survivor/25378/49 "2000-07-14T01:38:27Z")
Women’s cycles will syncronize when they spend alot of time together. When one of them starts to menstruate, they all will. I feel really bad for the guys. And how will the women bathe? Blood in the water would be a very BAD idea I would think. ---
**Author:** ![Lawmill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lawmill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lawmill)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gretchen-is-not-the-survivor/25378/50 "2000-07-14T02:46:23Z")
I’m almost positive that tampons, anti-diarrheal medicine, and condoms are provided for the contestants. ---
**Author:** ![boli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e99b99/32.png) [@boli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boli)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gretchen-is-not-the-survivor/25378/51 "2000-07-14T05:23:53Z")
Here’s an excert from Entertainment Weekly regarding stuff they were provided with: “Survivors get an unlimited stash of suntain lotion (50 SPF), bug repellent, **tampons** , anti-diarrhea tablets, iodine, Band-Aids, aspirin, contact lens solution, hand sanitizers, personal medications, and yes, condoms.” And, Sean’s personal item that he brought was a shaving kit. Maybe he shared with the ladies? ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2000, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gretchen-is-not-the-survivor/25378/52 "2000-07-14T12:21:29Z")
No deodorant? Hmmm, luxury item. Deodorant, shampoo or razor? I’m going with shampoo. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/gretchen-is-not-the-survivor/25378.md?page=2)