# Grey's Anatomy - 2/1 (Spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 2, 2007, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495 "2007-02-02T03:08:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495/21 "2007-02-03T05:21:24Z")
Am I the only one who has noticed that Derek Shepard is always bitchy to Meredith? He snapped at her this ep, as he does in all of them. For someone who’s supposed to be madly in love with her, he’s awfully hard on her. No surprise considering what she grew up dealing with, I guess. These days, I find him harder to take than her, as a character. Loved the moment after Christina said yes to Burke. Very cute. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495/22 "2007-02-06T20:08:57Z")
[QUOTE=PunditLisa] I did like the interplay between Christine and Ellis. Christine was not happy with her own reflection. [/QUOTE] I guess she’s changed, though, because her character at the beginning of the show wouldn’t have cared about “having both” a brilliant career and a personal life. I like her and Burke as an interesting couple, but I don’t see the relationship as life-changing for her to re-evaluate her goals. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495/23 "2007-02-06T21:00:58Z")
[QUOTE=Noelq] My take on the suits - The suits they were in had battery-powered “air scrubbers” for the lack of a better word. Even if you pump oxygen in… it has to get out safely somehow. If there’s an exit for the oxygen, it has to be secure and one-way so that the toxin can’t get into the suit. Since such suits are used so rarely, they hadn’t been charged for a while, or somebody was slacking and didn’t charge them. Hence… drama. [/QUOTE] Sloan explained this just before they went in. The limiting factor was the batteries for the scrubber. They had an estimated life of 30 minutes. Burke and Shepperd were in the OR for 32+ minutes. They didn’t breathe the toxic blood gases, they were breathing air with too-high CO2 for humans. That’s what knocked them out - oxygen depravation. ---
**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495/24 "2007-02-06T21:06:18Z")
[QUOTE=phungi] How about going from concept to funding to building to equipping it all in 8 days? There is TV magic and then there is complete fantasy, but this would be a far-reach even if they worked round the clock “Total Home Makeover” style. [/QUOTE] It wasn’t 8 days. They made a point of saying more than once that eight months had passed. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495/25 "2007-02-06T21:10:46Z")
[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] It wasn’t 8 days. They made a point of saying more than once that eight months had passed. [/QUOTE] Nah, it was 8 days. Don’t believe me? Check out [TWoP’s recaplet.](http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/articles/content/a12796/) Or check out [this link.](http://www.greysanatomyinsider.com/episodes/) ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495/26 "2007-02-06T21:45:50Z")
[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] It wasn’t 8 days. They made a point of saying more than once that eight months had passed. [/QUOTE] “Can you believe it? Eight days and eight millions dollars!” Why, no, I can’t believe it! 🙂 Besides, George and Callie had run away to Vegas between last ep and this, and it wouldn’t have taken them eight months to elope. And Cristina was still mulling over Burke’s proposal. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495/27 "2007-02-06T22:17:52Z")
[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] It wasn’t 8 days. They made a point of saying more than once that eight months had passed. [/QUOTE] And the “who is going to be the next Chief of Surgery” plot was still bubbling along merrily. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495/28 "2007-02-07T00:08:42Z")
I also don’t think that two marriage proposals would have sat for 8 months. ---
**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495/29 "2007-02-07T02:35:52Z")
[QUOTE=Rubystreak] Am I the only one who has noticed that Derek Shepard is always bitchy to Meredith? He snapped at her this ep, as he does in all of them. [/QUOTE] He snapped at her because this is the beginning of the next twist in their plot. He took what Meredith’s mom said to him about ruining her or whatever it was to heart and now he’s going to reject her for her own good. Or at least because he’ll think it’s for her own good. Of course, rather than just discuss it with her, he’ll be frosty to her and cut her off or something and then we’ll go through all that angst. And I read the writer’s blog and it seems everybody else heard days, not months. Maybe it was my unwilling suspension of belief that kicked in. This was way worse than the ‘freak-of-the-week’ in that case. I hate it when shows I like start circling the drain. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495/30 "2007-02-07T03:42:04Z")
[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] He snapped at her because this is the beginning of the next twist in their plot. He took what Meredith’s mom said to him about ruining her or whatever it was to heart and now he’s going to reject her for her own good. Or at least because he’ll think it’s for her own good. Of course, rather than just discuss it with her, he’ll be frosty to her and cut her off or something and then we’ll go through all that angst. [/QUOTE] Oh, I freakin’ hope not. I really hate that particular plot technique in these dramas, where one person has to bust up a perfectly good relationship because s/he has the sense that they are wrong for their beloved, and are really doing them a favor by ending it. There aren’t enough :rolleyes: s for this. Though I think you are being generous to old McDreamy here, who I think is actually just kind of a jerk after all. His continued overall bitchiness is making me have sympathy for Addison, which I didn’t think was possible. ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495/31 "2007-02-07T04:21:14Z")
[QUOTE=N9IWP] Caliope Efeginia Torez? 😃 The oxygen had something to do with battery life (yes, it makes no sense) Brian [/QUOTE] [Calliope](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calliope) [Iphigenia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iphigenia) Torres, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495/32 "2007-02-07T14:32:59Z")
[QUOTE=Doctor Who] Nah, it was 8 days. Don’t believe me? Check out [TWoP’s recaplet.](http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/articles/content/a12796/) Or check out [this link.](http://www.greysanatomyinsider.com/episodes/) [/QUOTE] Yup it was 8 days. The interns have been on the job less than a year. I think it’s actually only been 9 or 10 months, yet somehow Bailey carried a baby to term last season. There are no calendars in Shondaland. I don’t see Derek cutting Mer off for her own good. He already did that in the Finn plot. And he’s told her he will always show up. I don’t think they’ll go there again. I hope not anyway. Are you listening Shonda? ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495/33 "2007-02-07T14:37:39Z")
[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] And I read the writer’s blog and it seems everybody else heard days, not months. Maybe it was my unwilling suspension of belief that kicked in. This was way worse than the ‘freak-of-the-week’ in that case. I hate it when shows I like start circling the drain. [/QUOTE] How is this show “circling the drain”? It’s a soap opera, they’ve always been vague about how time passes on this show, and the patients (those that survive) make remarkably quick recoveries (New Spine girl walking the next day is just the first example to come to mind). As for the relationships, that’s what this show is about. So they are overly dramatic, the characters are unrealistically self-centered, and no one in a million years who is smart enough to be a surgeon would ever risk their positions and careers the way these people do on a weekly basis. (with the exception of RL [astronauts or rocket scientists](http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/07/astronaut.arrested/index.html)) **Honey** even with the distorted way that time passes in this show, the interns have been at Seattle Grace for more than 8 or 9 months. Closer to two years, I think. Meredith told Ellis that she went to Europe for a two month trip and then med school over five years ago. Definitely more than a year, but probably less than two. But not by much. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495/34 "2007-02-07T15:39:11Z")
[QUOTE=Sean Factotum] **Honey** even with the distorted way that time passes in this show, the interns have been at Seattle Grace for more than 8 or 9 months. Closer to two years, I think. Meredith told Ellis that she went to Europe for a two month trip and then med school over five years ago. Definitely more than a year, but probably less than two. But not by much. [/QUOTE] Doesn’t an internship last only one year? And I believe Shonda has also said (I don’t have a cite) that it’s been less than a year. It’s also why we didn’t get a Thanksgiving or holiday episode this season, since the writers want it to seem like a year hasn’t passed yet. Plus, if Addison and Mark’s baby would have been born in the episode before last then it couldn’t have been a year yet, since the baby was conceived when they were both still in New York. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495/35 "2007-02-07T15:52:59Z")
Sorry, I found the source. From January 12, 2007-Krista Vernoff > [@](#): > > Can you clarify the timeline? > > Um, sort of but not as completely as you’d like me to. I can tell you that the interns are still interns – which means that less than one year has passed in Grey’s time. I can also tell you that this is TV and if you over-think the timeline and over-study the show, you will probably be frustrated because it probably won’t seem logical that less than a year has passed. But as with all art, sometimes you have to just suspend your disbelief and go for the ride. On Beverly Hills 90210, the entire cast repeated their junior year of high school. Cause sometimes, logic-leaps like that are necessary to keep a show on the creative track you want. From the [Grey’swriters](http://www.greyswriters.com/) And here’s Shoda’s quote > [@](#): > > When is the first year of residency over? > > On our show, the first year of residency will be over sometime near the end of Season Three or the beginning of Season Four. Our show is odd in that an episode may air that is actually in real time only moments after the last episode ended. So much less than a year of time has passed on the show since the pilot aired. And I wanted to honor that. ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2007, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495/36 "2007-02-07T16:18:57Z")
I stand corrected. Thanks for the clarification (and the confirmation that time, at Seattle Grace, doesn’t move like it does in the rest of the universe.) ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495/37 "2007-02-08T15:12:01Z")
Watching a Roseanne from 1996 last night, I realized that the actor playing one of Dan’s drywall buddies is now the Chief on Grey’s (James Pickens, Jr.). If it weren’t for his voice I never would have known him–much slimmer with a full head of brown hair, and heavier glasses. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495/38 "2007-02-08T15:17:40Z")
[QUOTE=gigi] Watching a Roseanne from 1996 last night, I realized that the actor playing one of Dan’s drywall buddies is now the Chief on Grey’s (James Pickens, Jr.). If it weren’t for his voice I never would have known him–much slimmer with a full head of brown hair, and heavier glasses. [/QUOTE] That’s cool. He also played FBI Deputy Director Kersh on the X-Files. ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2007, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495/39 "2007-02-08T18:28:42Z")
[QUOTE=Honey] That’s cool. He also played FBI Deputy Director Kersh on the X-Files. [/QUOTE] \*That’s \*where I know him from! It’s been bugging me, but not enough to actually look it up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-2-1-spoilers/390495.md?page=1)