# Grey's Anatomy 5/14/09 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 15, 2009, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506 "2009-05-15T08:51:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/41 "2009-05-21T15:23:45Z")
> [@borschevsky](#): > > Those two aren’t the same actor. The ER guy is Mekhi Phifer, and the House guy is Omar Epps. Two different doctors. Omar Epps played a surgical intern alongside Dr. Carter who Dr. Benton rode especially hard because he was black. The pressure Benton put him under drove him to the breaking point and he jumped in front of the El or something. When the body is brought into Cook County, it’s mutilated beyond recognition and the doctors don’t realize who it is until they page Gant (Epps) and the pager on the body starts beeping. _Awesome_ episode. The Doctor played by Mekhi Pfieffer joins the cast three or four seasons later. ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/42 "2009-05-21T17:04:02Z")
Ah, sorry, my mistake. I just had a similar conversation a few days ago, because apparently Phifer is on Lie To Me now, and people were talking about House as well. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/43 "2009-05-21T17:21:05Z")
> [@shy\_guy](#): > > Two different doctors. Omar Epps played a surgical intern alongside Dr. Carter who Dr. Benton rode especially hard because he was black. The pressure Benton put him under drove him to the breaking point and he jumped in front of the El or something. When the body is brought into Cook County, it’s mutilated beyond recognition and the doctors don’t realize who it is until they page Gant (Epps) and the pager on the body starts beeping. > > _Awesome_ episode. That and the Greene baby delivery episode are all-time greats. The key to the Gant one was the ER was completely “dead” all night and in the last minute they finally bring in a patient and “Sweet Jesus, it’s Gant!” :eek: ---
**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/44 "2009-05-21T17:34:01Z")
> [@Sean\_Factotum](#): > > **Nadavy** ans **Casserole** I didn’t see it that way. It looked to me like two friends that ran into each other unexpectedly in a place neither thought they’d see each other. That’s basically how I interpreted it as well. I thought they were smiling at first just because they were glad to see each other, but then their smiles faded when they realized it meant the other one was dying too. > [@](#): > > I just wonder who else is still wandering the halls of the afterlife version of Seattle Grace. We got a bit of this in the episode where Meredith almost drowns. She sees some dead patients (at least, I remember there was the girl who was impaled on a pole stuck to another guy), and the bomb squad guy who got blown up, and Denny, and her dead dog. At the end she sees her mom, who was dying elsewhere in the hospital. This was a bit of a supernatural element, since Meredith had no way to know her mom was dying. The show has done supernatural stuff at other times, too, like the psychic who knew Christina was pregnant or that Izzy’s childhood nickname was peanut (I think that’s what it was). That’s probably why a lot of people thought Izzy might really have been seeing a ghost. ---
**Author:** ![wonderlust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonderlust/32/7237_2.png) [@wonderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonderlust)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/45 "2009-05-21T18:31:32Z")
I’ve noticed that some of you say “dying” instead of “died”, or otherwise hint that you believe that they’re not dead. Am I alone in interpreting that they are both dead? ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/46 "2009-05-21T19:15:37Z")
> [@wonderlust](#): > > I’ve noticed that some of you say “dying” instead of “died”, or otherwise hint that you believe that they’re not dead. Am I alone in interpreting that they are both dead? Well, we know from the Meredith drowning episode that you can come back from the Seattle Grace Afterlife, and neither of them was pronounced by the end of the episode, so I’m assuming they’re holding out the cliffhanger that either or both may survive and return next season. ---
**Author:** ![akrako1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@akrako1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/akrako1)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/47 "2009-05-21T19:49:47Z")
one nitpick (question) I had with the finale… Maybe somebody has it still on tape and can check it for me… here’s the thing… When Meredeth comes and tells the other folks that “roadkill guy is George!”, they all go running! Next we see George is in surgery. Were they not going to perform surgery if the guys wasn’t George? Why were they standing around anyways, if this guy needed immediate surgery? It was a “oh, shit, we should actually try to save that guy” moment. Aren’t they dcotors? WTF? ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/48 "2009-05-21T20:03:06Z")
I didn’t get that either. ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/49 "2009-05-21T20:54:10Z")
They were getting ready to operate - that’s why Meredith was in there, prepping him for his surgery. (The girl he threw out of the path of the bus wanted to stay with him until they wheeled him out, but when told she had to leave she asked Mere to “hold his hand until the surgery, because he likes it.” But then she realized it was George, and everyone just kind of freaked out. And in SGA, wasn’t one of the ghosts Meredith ran into was her mom’s scrub nurse, who died first or second season? ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/50 "2009-05-21T21:14:52Z")
> [@akrako1](#): > > one nitpick (question) I had with the finale… Maybe somebody has it still on tape and can check it for me.. here’s the thing.. When Meredeth comes and tells the other folks that “roadkill guy is George!”, they all go running! Next we see George is in surgery. Were they not going to perform surgery if the guys wasn’t George? Why were they standing around anyways, if this guy needed immediate surgery? It was a “oh, shit, we should actually try to save that guy” moment. Aren’t they dcotors? WTF? I don’t have the ep on my DVR anymore, but wasn’t George coding when he finally got through to Meredith that it was him? That’s why he was dying… his machine was beeping and everything. I imagine the docs all would have come running anyway, when she told them roadkill guy was coding, but instead, she said, “Roadkill guy is George!” ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/51 "2009-05-21T21:20:56Z")
> [@wonderlust](#): > > I’ve noticed that some of you say “dying” instead of “died”, or otherwise hint that you believe that they’re not dead. Am I alone in interpreting that they are both dead? At the end of the episode I believed they were both dead and going to the afterlife together. Now I’m not so sure. One of my friends brought up a very good point that TR Knight is leaving, but George may survive. After the extensive plastic surgery he’ll need, no doubt another actor would have to play him. I think Izzy is a goner though. ---
**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/52 "2009-05-21T21:39:30Z")
I only saw the last few minutes. I got the impression that they were boarding the elevator that was going to take them to the afterlife (it’s the shiny button for the top floor). I think for George to survive as a different actor using plastic surgery as an excuse would be far-fetched. The dude was so mangled that he’d be facing severe physical impairments and need years of physical therapy just to function normally let alone have the dexterity to do fiddly medical procedures (and that’s if he doesn’t have brain damage that would jeopardize his ability to practice caused by all the head trauma). ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/53 "2009-05-22T06:02:45Z")
> [@wonderlust](#): > > I’ve noticed that some of you say “dying” instead of “died”, or otherwise hint that you believe that they’re not dead. Am I alone in interpreting that they are both dead? Well they are dying like Buffy’s first death - a technical momentary death - their heart or breathing has just stopped, and in tv land this sends you into the afterlife immediately, but if your heart and breathing are restarted quickly enough you are dragged back into your body from your afterlife experience. Otherwise known as the Lost cliffhanger death - someone is just shot or blown up or otherwise apparently in mortal danger, but one does not know if it is actually mortal until the next episode (or several episodes in Lost’s case). ---
**Author:** ![wonderlust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonderlust/32/7237_2.png) [@wonderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonderlust)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/54 "2009-05-22T16:41:38Z")
It’s hard to imagine how Izzy could survive, considering the extent of her mets, and George would have to live a pretty nightmarish couple of years, if he did survive! They’ve already pulled the “brand new face” trick before, but I doubt George would fare so well. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/55 "2009-05-22T17:34:31Z")
> [@wonderlust](#): > > They’ve already pulled the “brand new face” trick before, but I doubt George would fare so well. Right; there’s not much of a chance that Alex would fall for him. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/56 "2009-05-22T17:40:28Z")
> [@gigi](#): > > Right; there’s not much of a chance that Alex would fall for him. Unless they transplant Izzy’s face onto George. And her arm too, since it sounds like his wasn’t salvageable. ---
**Author:** ![gwendee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@gwendee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gwendee)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/57 "2009-05-22T18:03:06Z")
Pardon me, but you people seem to be considering this as if recovery times, or recovery at all, has any sort of basis in reality at dear old Seattle Grace. If TR renegotiates his contract he could have a solo surgery 2 weeks into next season… ---
**Author:** ![freep5637](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@freep5637](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freep5637)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/58 "2009-05-22T22:06:29Z")
this show is soooo horrible. i know it’s a prime time drama, but i work in a hospital and let me tell you it’s no where, not even close to any kind of reality. the characters suck, the writing sucks, and their ridiculous version of a trauma bay is a fucking joke. this show makes doctors look retarded ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/59 "2009-05-23T00:57:08Z")
> [@freep5637](#): > > this show is soooo horrible. i know it’s a prime time drama, but i work in a hospital and let me tell you it’s no where, not even close to any kind of reality. the characters suck, the writing sucks, and their ridiculous version of a trauma bay is a fucking joke. this show makes doctors look retarded You mean it’s NOT a documentary??:smack: ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506/60 "2009-05-23T01:05:06Z")
Luckily the show isn’t about medicine. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/greys-anatomy-5-14-09/496506.md?page=4)