# Grimm Season 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 13, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400 "2012-08-13T18:52:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/303 "2013-05-03T10:23:50Z")
Let’s see. Adalind causes Hank to fall fatally in love with her. Adalind’s mother makes a potion to wake up Julia, but it causes fatal passion between Sean and Julia. And now Nick is going to have a fatal attraction to a woman who’s probably a Hexenbiest. I see a pattern emerging on the show. All that’s left is for Wu to drink a love potion or eat a love cookie and actually fall in love (instead of eating everything in sight like the last time). ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/304 "2013-05-03T11:45:37Z")
> [@Seanette](#): > > Yeah, that whole “protect her from people who want him dead and information that’ll probably drive her nuts” bit is SO evil and awful. So is his not finding out important information about her situation any sooner than she does (and some details she gets first). After all, a good guy is all-knowing and info-dumps more on someone he loves than is safe for her physical or mental health, right? :eyeroll: > > Sorry, but you aren’t going to convince me that Nick is a horrible selfish evil jerk or that poor widdle Juliette is a saintly abused martyr. Not particularly trying to convince you of anything except that maybe your standards on what makes for a bad person are a bit inconsistent. But just so long as we agree that infantilizing her by deciding on her behalf what it is safe for her to know about her own deeply distressing situation is awesome. Big strong man taking the emotional bullet for his weak little woman. How sweet. ---
**Author:** ![Enuma\_Elish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Enuma\_Elish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enuma_Elish)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/305 "2013-05-08T07:43:19Z")
I only caught the last 35 or so minutes of Grimm tonight, but it seems that Juliette is easing herself into acceptance of Nick’s (and the wessens’) true character. I think Juliette is stronger than has been previously assumed. She was incredibly strong in her disbelief. This is not a character flaw. It is a strength. A strong disbelief, when overcome with overwhelming facts, can become a strong belief. Juliette is headed in this direction. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/306 "2013-05-08T09:21:25Z")
I thought that this was a pretty good episode. I am interested where everyone will go from here next season. ---
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/307 "2013-05-08T09:49:51Z")
I’m floored. Juliette _apologized_ for being such a bitch? She _might_ at this point be pulling herself off the Scrappy Heap, by growing up and realizing others have feelings too, and that she’s not just some widdle abused victim of everyone around her. We’ll see if this sudden burst of maturity and actually giving a damn about anyone else lasts. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/308 "2013-05-08T10:28:17Z")
So, how secret is Nick’s trailer anyway? Hank, Sean, Monroe, Juliette, and now Rosalee know about it. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/309 "2013-05-08T19:28:26Z")
> [@obfusciatrist](#): > > If that’s why, it didn’t work for me. DVR didn’t record it, guess I’ll get it On Demand. We have AT&T U-Verse and the DVR did not record the rescheduled Ring of Fire episode. I went to check On Demand last night - was going to try to squeeze it in before last night’s ep aired - and it wasn’t there either. It had episodes 217 (the jury trial) and 219 (the glowing dude) but no 218. I guess I’ll have to catch the rerun this summer. ---
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/310 "2013-05-08T20:10:44Z")
Bummer. Comcast still has it in On-Demand. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/311 "2013-05-08T22:26:50Z")
If you can watch on a computer try this link > **[Watch Grimm Episode: Volcanalis - NBC.com](https://www.nbc.com/grimm/video/volcanalis/n35722)** > > Watch Volcanalis (Season 2, Episode 18) of Grimm or get episode details on NBC.com ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/312 "2013-05-09T14:50:39Z")
Volcanalis is also on Hulu for free for a couple more weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2013, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/313 "2013-05-11T06:59:12Z")
I laughed at the very end of the episode when the guy in the holding cell went for the gun and Renard stopped him, but did so in an almost annoyed manner. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2013, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/314 "2013-05-11T11:52:05Z")
Does Juliette’s physique remind anyone else of Pinocchio? Did the Avatar-sparkly wesen woman remind anyone else of Hayley on modern family. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2013, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/315 "2013-05-11T12:02:12Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Now that you say it, I completely see the Rumpelstiltskin connection. > > And speaking of Sgt. Wu, something just occurred to me shortly after the episode was over. > > They’re doing a good job of making him seem fairly insignificant and completely harmless. I wonder if they’re trying to make it a big shock when he’s revealed to be a deadly big-bad. They need him to do all the actual police work. He’s the only person who keeps the department going. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2013, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/316 "2013-05-11T12:48:43Z")
> [@Snooooopy](#): > > I laughed at the very end of the episode when the guy in the holding cell went for the gun and Renard stopped him, but did so in an almost annoyed manner. And he actually said “Really?” in a very snarky way. > [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#): > > They need him to do all the actual police work. He’s the only person who keeps the department going. I really hope Wu is not brought into the inner circle. They’ve established a pretty good “Scooby Gang” group, with Hank, Renard, Monroe, Rosalee, and (soon) Juliette all in on the secret and aware of and working with the Wesen. If they keep adding to that group, they risk not only diluting that dynamic, but losing any sense of normalcy within the show. Wu gives us the everyman perspective (in addition to doing the actual police work). If every regular character in the show is aware of the Wesen and Nick’s abilities, I think it will lose a little more of its sense of reality – which it already pushes to the edge. (Yes, I know it’s an urban fantasy, but if we’re accepting that Wesen have lived side-by-side with humans undiscovered except for the Grimms throughout history, it’s important not to lose that perspective by having everyone aware of them now.) Anyway. I do like that the group seems to be consolidating into a tight little alliance, even if Renard’s participation is looked upon somewhat uneasily. I like that he showed a little more concern for Nick this week by showing his true face to the _Musai_ and threatening her on Nick’s behalf. Just two more episodes left, and we’re apparently going to see (spoilered for the preview-averse)Zombies! Oh, and Juliette is apparently taken fully into confidence as the friendly Wesen woge for her (including, unless I misunderstood the scene, our friendly little beaver).We should expect some progress on Adalind’s quest too, I hope. (Somebody needs to do a parody video featuring the Wesen “woge-ing” to a Madonna soundtrack.) ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/317 "2013-05-11T16:57:19Z")
I’m sure the answer is obvious, but why Madonna? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/318 "2013-05-11T17:22:18Z")
[Vogue](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuJQSAiODqI) (which is sufficiently close to the in-show pronunciation of _[woge](http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Woge)_, I think). 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/319 "2013-05-11T17:31:19Z")
Ahhhhh, got it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/320 "2013-05-14T00:06:19Z")
> [@Just\_Ed](#): > > Anyway. I do like that the group seems to be consolidating into a tight little alliance, even if Renard’s participation is looked upon somewhat uneasily. I like that he showed a little more concern for Nick this week by showing his true face to the _Musai_ and threatening her on Nick’s behalf. I thought that defending Nick from the _Musai_ was kind of dumb on Renyard’s part. Until now, he’s been mostly successful in keeping his knowledge of Nick away from his family and the wessen community in general. His cover was blown with the families by Adalind, but he still had plausible deniability with the lesser wessen, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/321 "2013-05-14T00:48:25Z")
Not trying to be snarky at all, but why would Renard need “plausible deniability with the lesser wessen”? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400/322 "2013-05-14T00:51:41Z")
> [@Just\_Ed](#): > > Not trying to be snarky at all, but why would Renard need “plausible deniability with the lesser wessen”? especially considering how he came out to other wessen in the first season as the ‘ruler’ of the area - taking off the ear of the ‘reaper’ dude, etc - Him ‘being’ a wessen I guess is not common knowledge - his position of power is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-2/631400.md?page=17)