# Grimm, Season 4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 24, 2014, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325 "2014-10-24T05:29:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/181 "2015-04-05T15:18:19Z")
I don’t think Kenneth is Human, or he would not have been able to kick Renard’s ass like that. Bitsie apparently said don’t look for Juliette and Nick to be getting back together any time soon. If she embraces the Hexenbiest thing, she could make a powerful ally for Renard. ---
**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/182 "2015-04-05T16:08:48Z")
I don’t give a rodent’s rectum if this is a spoiler or not; my favorite part was in the previews for next week where Rosalee shreiks, “She’s a freaking hexenbiest?!?” ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/183 "2015-04-05T16:30:04Z")
Dark Juliette should be fun for awhile. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/184 "2015-04-05T18:44:07Z")
Who’s Bitsie? A producer? After all of this, either Nick and Juliette should get back together and the writers should lay off of relationship issues for a season or two, or else they should break up. Their constant on again, off again relationship is starting to feel like a soap opera. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/185 "2015-04-05T19:34:03Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Who’s Bitsie? A producer? The actor playing Juliette. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/186 "2015-04-05T19:37:39Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > The actor playing Juliette. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/187 "2015-04-06T13:06:09Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Unlike most shows this one, for the most part, doesn’t just drop certain story lines and move on. I’m positive we’ll see more about the resistance in future episodes. Remember the beginning of last season, where Nick would occasionally go all cold and corpse-like, after he’d been a zombie for awhile? Whatever became of that plotline, I wonder? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/188 "2015-04-06T19:40:13Z")
> [@MrAtoz](#): > > Remember the beginning of last season, where Nick would occasionally go all cold and corpse-like, after he’d been a zombie for awhile? Whatever became of that plotline, I wonder? 🙂 Well, I did say, “for the most part.” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/189 "2015-04-07T01:25:11Z")
> [@MrAtoz](#): > > Remember the beginning of last season, where Nick would occasionally go all cold and corpse-like, after he’d been a zombie for awhile? Whatever became of that plotline, I wonder? 🙂 Didn’t he do that again somewhat recently? Was that before or after he got de-grimmed and re-grimmed? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/190 "2015-04-07T02:20:30Z")
> [@MrAtoz](#): > > Remember the beginning of last season, where Nick would occasionally go all cold and corpse-like, after he’d been a zombie for awhile? Whatever became of that plotline, I wonder? 🙂 > [@levdrakon](#): > > Didn’t he do that again somewhat recently? Was that before or after he got de-grimmed and re-grimmed? From earlier in this thread: > [@Tangent](#): > > I liked the scene in the interrogation room when that Wesenrein dude realized that Nick got his Grimm back. But there was something weird going on with Nick’s face–it was kind of going pale and… deathly, for just a moment or two while he was threatening the guy. > [@levdrakon](#): > > I noticed Nick turning blueish too. Didn’t he do that before? I can’t remember what it was. Supercharged unpredictable edgy Nick I’m guessing. Dark Nick. > [@Bumbazine](#): > > Nick had this zombie thing going on for a couple of episodes after that voodoo priest, Baron Samedi, zombified him. Then we didn’t see anything about it for a while and thought it was a dead end. But now it’s in play again. Should make things more interesting. Nick is becoming a kind of supergrimm. 😃 I do hope we get some explanation for “zombie” Nick sooner or later. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/191 "2015-04-08T04:50:52Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > What did Truble mean by “Josh moved back in?” Josh had to leave Philadelphia and go to Portland because his home had been ransacked by some Verrat agents who were searching for one of those special, important keys that we haven’t really heard anything about in a spell. Trubel is just confirming that Josh is back in his home again and nothing crazy has been going on. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/192 "2015-04-12T13:02:11Z")
Well, looks like Nick & Juliette are on the outs for awhile. I guess Grimms & Hexens just don’t like each other very much. I don’t like Kenneth’s voice. It’s a fakey gay aristocrat voice, but mostly fakey. Renard’s having a bad time of it. Looks like Nick & Renard both need their moms back soon. i miss Trubel & Josh. Bring them back too. NIck’s going to need a full team to handle the royals & everything else going on. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/193 "2015-04-12T13:21:57Z")
That seemed like a waste of an episode. Didn’t like it at all. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/194 "2015-04-12T13:42:56Z")
Kind of an artsy episode. I liked the police chase with the lights through the trees, etc. They’re putting the pieces in place for what could be a fun showdown/finale, if they don’t blow it. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/195 "2015-04-12T14:58:43Z")
I didn’t care for this episode, either. That was one of the most non-sensical wesen types they’ve written. And that opening scene with Juliette and Renard was weird. Did she really sleep with him? ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/196 "2015-04-12T21:10:30Z")
The writers were a little inconsistent. Monroe said that only human body heat could keep them from freezing. Yet car heaters seemed to work just fine. As for Juliette, well, if I found I suddenly had powers, and could move objects with my mind, or blow the backs of people’s heads off (not that I would), I’d think it was cool. If I knew my wife wouldn’t like kissing a rotting corpse, I wouldn’t transform while kissing or any other intimacy. But I know, her personality is being at least partially altered by becoming a hexenbiest. ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/197 "2015-04-12T22:03:41Z")
The Wesen of the Week didn’t make any sense, they could have done better. All the way to the beginning, when the car broke down, the dude was in there by himself. Where were the other two already if they were traveling together and needed each other’s body heat to travel? Also, have the writers forgotten that the house belongs to Juliette? Why would she leave her own damn house? I have had a little issue for quite a while with Juliette’s whole story, anyway, as she’s supposed to be a veterinarian. Veterinarians work crazy amounts of hours and are generally consumed by their work - especially when they own the practice as was alluded in the first season. She hasn’t worked in at least the last two seasons, has she? Did I miss a segment where she sold her practice or something? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/198 "2015-04-12T22:10:31Z")
I didn’t understand why the hibernaculum was supernaturally cold upstairs, much less why it was so hot downstairs. Those people seem like they couldn’t survive a cool summer night, much less winter. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2015, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/199 "2015-04-13T02:21:13Z")
> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#): > > The Wesen of the Week didn’t make any sense, they could have done better. All the way to the beginning, when the car broke down, the dude was in there by himself. Where were the other two already if they were traveling together and needed each other’s body heat to travel? That’s what I’m asking about. Each one only attacked others when their cars broke down, which means that car heaters work just fine in place of another person. Even though they’re not supposed to. > [@](#): > > Also, have the writers forgotten that the house belongs to Juliette? Why would she leave her own damn house? In universe - She’s confused. She’s mad at everyone, except for Renard apparently, but she doesn’t know what to do about it. Even though she’s avoiding Nick, she may not have decided that she truly wants him out of her life. Real life - Maybe the writers are having Juliette temporarily move out because Nick did that once and the writers don’t want to repeat themselves. > [@](#): > > I have had a little issue for quite a while with Juliette’s whole story, anyway, as she’s supposed to be a veterinarian. Veterinarians work crazy amounts of hours and are generally consumed by their work - especially when they own the practice as was alluded in the first season. She hasn’t worked in at least the last two seasons, has she? Did I miss a segment where she sold her practice or something? She probably does her job off screen. Or maybe she has an underling or two filling in for her. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2015, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/200 "2015-04-13T03:56:54Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > She probably does her job off screen. Or maybe she has an underling or two filling in for her. Would have been hilarious - maybe in one of her nightmares - she’s examining a puppy/kitten - it suddenly wogues into a tiny human and yells “you’re a VET!!!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325.md?page=11)