# Grimm, Season 4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 24, 2014, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325 "2014-10-24T05:29:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/241 "2015-05-09T18:07:53Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > Also, why is she blaming everyone else for turning her Hexenbiest? I seem to recall that Nick said he wasn’t going to risk her and in the end it was her choice. This little bit is what pisses me off the most about her turn to the dark side. She chose to stay with Nick when he finally revealed what he was and she chose to do what she did to turn him back into a Grimm. I’m guessing it has to do with her now being a Hexenbiest. I mean, she says she’s happy as one, so then why is she so pissed off at Nick and his friends for making her one? It’s not logical, so I’m guessing that being a Hexenbiest is messing with her emotions. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2015, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/242 "2015-05-10T23:06:47Z")
That is so NOT what Justin Timberlake told me was in the box. I hope Nick kills the fuck out of Juliette. I don’t care what reasons for your behavior, you get mom killed it’s dying time. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2015, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/243 "2015-05-10T23:47:24Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > That is so NOT what Justin Timberlake told me was in the box. Although it couldn’t happen on broadcast TV, it would be kind of funny to have Nick open the box and see a penis in there. Although a lot of people wouldn’t get the joke. Anyway, I’m wondering if Adalind will wind up being Nick’s new love interest. And yeah, unless the show does something like hit a reset button or resurrect Kelly somehow I don’t see Juliette getting back together with Nick and the gang. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/244 "2015-05-11T00:53:29Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > That is so NOT what Justin Timberlake told me was in the box. > > I hope Nick kills the fuck out of Juliette. I don’t care what reasons for your behavior, you get mom killed it’s dying time. especially _this_ weekend. ---
**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/245 "2015-05-11T11:26:08Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > That is so NOT what Justin Timberlake told me was in the box. > > I hope Nick kills the fuck out of Juliette. I don’t care what reasons for your behavior, you get mom killed it’s dying time. With the previews showing the king hisself on next week’s episode, I’d like to see Nick go nuclear on all the royals. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/246 "2015-05-11T13:59:08Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Although it couldn’t happen on broadcast TV, it would be kind of funny to have Nick open the box and see a penis in there. Although a lot of people wouldn’t get the joke. Suddenly a grim (no pun intended) scene from a couple of seasons ago in a popular HBO series is really funny to me. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/247 "2015-05-11T14:29:01Z")
Considering Nick has 99 problems and Hexenbiests are about 98 of those, those bee Wessen that kill Hexenbiests from Season 1 would be a good thing to find right about now. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/248 "2015-05-11T17:01:06Z")
Kinda half expecting some long confrontation scene between Nick and Juliette where she taunts him about not being able to kill her. Then you hear the gunshot, she falls and you see Hank standing behind her. Edit: Or Renard. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/249 "2015-05-11T17:04:23Z")
Oh Hell, film that scene with everyone. She falls. It’s Hank. She falls. It’s Renard. She falls. It’s Monroe. She falls. It’s Rosalee. She falls. It’s Wu. She falls. It’s Bud. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/250 "2015-05-11T17:53:27Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Oh Hell, film that scene with everyone. > > She falls. > It’s Hank. > She falls. > It’s Renard. > She falls. > It’s Monroe. > She falls. > It’s Rosalee. > She falls. > It’s Wu. > She falls. > It’s Bud. She falls. It’s Julliette. (looking confused) ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/251 "2015-05-11T18:10:24Z")
stupid double post ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/252 "2015-05-11T18:12:33Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > She falls. > It’s Julliette. (looking confused) I like that. She falls. It’s Samuel L Jackson. :eek: “I have HAD it with these motherfarking Hexenbeists on this motherfarking series!” ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/253 "2015-05-11T18:24:28Z")
I hate to say it - but that damn baby is going to be the wildcard - Juliette seemed to change a bit once it was in hands - a) the baby is super magical - its going to take out the royal family for killing ‘moma’ - and hopefully take juliette with them. b) Juliette is super magical - royals are going to try and run with the kid and Juliettes momma instinct is going to kill the royals and she goes on the run c) Adilland is screwed - she’s going to replace juliette on the show - which will piss my wife off to no end - she still won’t have baby 1, she’ll have to be protected by Nick, and htere will be tons of awkward glances. but mark my words - Baby 1 sitll has an ‘active’ role to play … (just my predictions) ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/254 "2015-05-11T20:38:01Z")
I wonder if Kelly sacrificed herself to _let_ them think they have the right child, so the other one would remain safe in hiding. My theory anyway. And I want to see Rosalie wax Juliette. I’d find that the most satisfying conclusion to her end. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/255 "2015-05-11T20:49:31Z")
Wow, that episode was just …_.grim…_ ---
**Author:** ![BrianJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/54ee81/32.png) [@BrianJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrianJ)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/256 "2015-05-11T22:42:23Z")
I just had to check out Bitsie’s twitter. I’m tempted to ask if she pissed off a writer or something. Bitsie Tulloch @BitsieTulloch · May 8 Tonight’s @NBCGrimm drinking game rules: No rules. Because you’re gonna WANT to be drinking the entire time to dull the pain. #Grimm 59 retweets 199 favorites Bitsie Tulloch @BitsieTulloch · May 8 Bitsie Tulloch retweeted Catherine Bowman That’s the first time I’ve heard that today. Bitsie Tulloch added, Catherine Bowman @ccbowman @BitsieTulloch, no offense but I don’t like Juliette anymore. #Grimm 25 retweets 165 favorites ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/257 "2015-05-12T00:30:23Z")
> [@BrianJ](#): > > I just had to check out Bitsie’s twitter. I’m tempted to ask if she pissed off a writer or something. I think it’d make more sense to ask if she bribed a writer to actually make her character interesting. Going from being a whiny, boring damsel in distress to evil ass-kicking machine seems like a pretty fantastic promotion to me. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2015, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/258 "2015-05-16T01:31:30Z")
Well, I can’t say I’m surprised about what happened with Juliette. I know a lot of viewers disliked her character even before she went dark. I always liked her and I’ll miss her on the show. Who was it that showed up outside Nick’s house at the very end? Have we seen her before? I presume that’s who Trubel was talking to on the phone when she was in the car with Bud? I didn’t really care for the twist in the helicopter–way too convenient. I’m still pissed they killed Nick’s mom off-screen. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2015, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/259 "2015-05-16T03:12:57Z")
I thought Juliette got in the helicopter, but obviously not (I will re-watch at some point) I definitely knew they were going to pin the Jack-t-R crimes on one of the baddies Is Viktor king now? In these types of shows, I never count anyone dead. Brian ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2015, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/260 "2015-05-16T04:41:02Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > Who was it that showed up outside Nick’s house at the very end? Have we seen her before? FBI agent who is a wesen. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325.md?page=14)