# Grimm, Season 4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 24, 2014, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325 "2014-10-24T05:29:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/41 "2014-11-30T15:31:19Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Yeah, Monroe explained the two types quite clearly at one point, I then when they were bringing Hank into their confidence (as he’d previously seen Monroe in full voge). Oh. Oh, okay then. (I guess I missed that, or spaced out.) ---
**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/42 "2014-11-30T15:48:39Z")
I know the older wesen guy from this episode as Daniel Jackson’s FiL in the Stargate series. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/43 "2014-12-02T00:53:32Z")
I wonder if the show is going to put Hank and the cute deputy together. They did seem to share an interested glance, and the actress has a substantial enough resume to make me think that she might be more than a one-shot. Hank seems overdue for some romantic possibilities. He’s been bereft of any since his physical therapist turned him down, right? ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/44 "2014-12-02T02:38:03Z")
Yeah, that was my take also – just based on the look they exchanged when they were introduced. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/45 "2014-12-02T02:43:40Z")
I also thought she bounced into the show like a more significant character than a single episode guest star. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/46 "2014-12-03T00:53:55Z")
If she does hook up with Hank, I wonder what kind of vessen she’ll inevitably turn out to be? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/47 "2014-12-03T01:03:09Z")
I don’t know about that, but I’ll be pissed on behalf of Wu if she gets to learn about Wesen before he does, just 'cause she’s dating Hank. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/48 "2014-12-03T01:06:40Z")
Poor Wu, Nick told Hank because he was slightly upset after seeing one vessen. Wu was rotting away at a mental institution and they didn’t tell him shit. That was a total dick move, i’d be pretty upset when i learned the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Grammaton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Grammaton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grammaton)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/49 "2014-12-03T12:47:48Z")
I’ve seen silly shit before, but this takes the prize. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/50 "2014-12-03T12:57:25Z")
> [@Grammaton](#): > > I’ve seen silly shit before, but this takes the prize. I’m afraid you’ll have to be more specific. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/51 "2014-12-03T19:19:41Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Trouble (in whatever lame-ass fashion they’re spelling her name) To be fair, her name’s Teresa Rubel, so “Trubel” sort of flows from there, although it makes me think of either a username or possibly a hip-hop artist. And count me as one of the people who’s pretty unclear on the whole Grimm / Wesen woge visibility thing. Originally I thought it was something about Grimms that made them see things that others didn’t, but after the last few episodes of last season with the sunglasses at the wedding, they cleared up that it has something to do with a Grimm’s eyes. But Trubel can look at multiple Wesen without having them woge or know she’s a Grimm, which is sort of counter to Nick’s experience. They ALWAYS know he’s a Grimm when he looks at them. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/52 "2014-12-03T20:07:18Z")
> [@bump](#): > > To be fair, her name’s Teresa Rubel, so “Trubel” sort of flows from there, although it makes me think of either a username or possibly a hip-hop artist. > > And count me as one of the people who’s pretty unclear on the whole Grimm / Wesen woge visibility thing. Originally I thought it was something about Grimms that made them see things that others didn’t, but after the last few episodes of last season with the sunglasses at the wedding, they cleared up that it has something to do with a Grimm’s eyes. > > But Trubel can look at multiple Wesen without having them woge or know she’s a Grimm, which is sort of counter to Nick’s experience. They ALWAYS know he’s a Grimm when he looks at them. truble has been very good at not ‘directly’ looking them in the eyes - which is why she is able to see them without alerting them to her grimmness. Nick is almost always looking straight at them - difference from being a cop vs ‘runaway’ in mindset. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/53 "2014-12-03T20:36:09Z")
I thought they also had to be in a more excited or upset mental state. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/54 "2014-12-03T20:54:37Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > I thought they also had to be in a more excited or upset mental state. Yes, that’s called a “_woge_” (they can also do it on purpose but thats rare, hard to do and a big NO-NO. ) When a Grimm looks a wesen in the eye while the wesen is in a woge state, the Grimms eyes (I think the white of their eyes) become black= “an infinite darkness”. > **[Woge](https://grimm.fandom.com/wiki/Woge)** ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2014, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/55 "2014-12-05T22:32:51Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > If she does hook up with Hank, I wonder what kind of vessen she’ll inevitably turn out to be? I’m voting for a meerkat-wesen. Cue the classic “morning after” scene, when Hank wakes up in bed and sees her perched upright on the other side of the bed munching on a scorpion. Screenplays just write themselves, don’t they? ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/56 "2014-12-06T14:43:59Z")
> [@GargoyleWB](#): > > I’m voting for a meerkat-wesen. Cue the classic “morning after” scene, when Hank wakes up in bed and sees her perched upright on the other side of the bed munching on a scorpion. Screenplays just write themselves, don’t they? Hee! Fun episode last night – I love the off-the-wall humor of this show. Bummer on Trouble leaving, now that I’ve decided I like her – think she (and Josh?) will be back? Or are they priming for a spinoff? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2014, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/57 "2014-12-06T17:11:54Z")
Yeah, I had grown to like Trouble–sorry to see her go. Though I agree she’ll probably be back at some point. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/58 "2014-12-07T00:17:54Z")
Last season I predicted Nick’s powers would come back after about two or three episodes. I was wrong. I assumed he would get them back by Trubel transferring her powers to him, thus she could go and live a happy normal life. I had no idea Renard’s mom would go looking for the baby. Although for what reason? Anyway, I’m loving the fact that this show isn’t so predictable. Yeah, some things are, but I quit a show not too long ago for, among other things, getting too predictable and cliche. I am annoyed that famous and infamous people in history turn out to be Wessen, that is very cliche, but I like the show despite that. Oh, and I thought Nick’s super hearing was independent of being a Grimm, but apparently since he only started noticing dim and far away noises as his powers came back, I guess they’re a package deal. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/59 "2014-12-07T00:29:57Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Last season I predicted Nick’s powers would come back after about two or three episodes. I was wrong. > > I assumed he would get them back by Trubel transferring her powers to him, thus she could go and live a happy normal life. > > I had no idea Renard’s mom would go looking for the baby. Although for what reason? > > Anyway, I’m loving the fact that this show isn’t so predictable. Yeah, some things are, but I quit a show not too long ago for, among other things, getting too predictable and cliche. I am annoyed that famous and infamous people in history turn out to be Wessen, that is very cliche, but I like the show despite that. > > Oh, and I thought Nick’s super hearing was independent of being a Grimm, but apparently since he only started noticing dim and far away noises as his powers came back, I guess they’re a package deal. His super hearing, strength, stamina, etc started last season after an event\* - they are not part of the package deal. \*at the moment, I don’t recall the specifics of the event - I think he was blinded for an episode??? ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2014, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325/60 "2014-12-07T02:30:52Z")
> [@simster](#): > > His super hearing, strength, stamina, etc started last season after an event\* - they are not part of the package deal. > > \*at the moment, I don’t recall the specifics of the event - I think he was blinded for an episode??? He gained his super hearing separately, but after he lost his Grimm powers he also didn’t have his super hearing. He only started getting back after sex with Juliette and started regaining his Grimm powers. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-4/702325.md?page=4)