# Grimm Season 5 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 30, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187 "2015-10-30T16:40:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2015, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/21 "2015-11-07T07:28:55Z")
I’m guessing, “free the hidden,” is referring to wesen not having to hide their beast selves from normal humans. Of course if that is it, it would seem this group should be waging war with the wesen council since there the ones who actively oppose it. Maybe they want wesen to subjugate humans. Also, I don’t want Adalind to stay human. She’s more fun as a Hexenbiest. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2015, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/22 "2015-11-07T14:18:55Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Also, I don’t want Adalind to stay human. She’s more fun as a Hexenbiest. We’ll see what happens when Juliette gets back from not actually being dead. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/23 "2015-11-07T21:13:36Z")
Finally got caught up on the first two episodes. My wife and I think it’s interesting that the writers seem to be glossing over seemingly significant details, like how is Nick going to sell the house if it isn’t his (it’s Juliette’s), doesn’t Juliette have family that are going to notice she’s not around anymore, that kind of stuff. Although I agree that it must be an “only mostly dead” Juliette that they have locked up in that room. And I’m secretly hoping they surgically attached Nick’s mom’s head to her. A two-headed zombie hexenbiest would be awesome! ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Woodhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@Miss\_Woodhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Woodhouse)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2015, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/24 "2015-11-07T21:29:06Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Heh, sometimes even a head in a box doesn’t preclude that… Looking at you, Prison Break… Yeah, it not the beheading that will keep Mom Grimm from coming back, it’s her new role on the show Limitless. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2015, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/25 "2015-11-07T22:52:37Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > how is Nick going to sell the house if it isn’t his (it’s Juliette’s), I don’t think we know conclusively who owns the house. IIRC, in a flashback (during one of the Juliette-memory-loss episodes) we see them moving in to the house together. We’ve seen Nick sleep on the couch or even at Monroe’s place when he and Juliette were fighting, but that could just be him being gentlemanly–it doesn’t necessarily mean the house is Juliette’s. Here’s my wild guess as to what is going to happen. Adalind is really being softened and her likability increased in the show to make her fate more tragic. She will have to somehow sacrifice her new ‘normal’ life to save Juliette. Juliette will be de-hexenbiested and Adalind will become full hexenbiest again, with all the villainous tendencies that go along with that. Adalind will go rogue, and Nick and Juliette will raise the child. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2015, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/26 "2015-11-07T22:58:37Z")
Even though she has a new baby to worry about, I kept thinking that Nick should have shown Adalind the claw mark symbol and ask her if she knew anything about it. One thing I’m worried about with this new secret organization. In other sci-fi/fantasy shows that introduce something like this the organization starts out powerful, but then when shit starts going down they start losing people, growing weaker, and wind up being impotent meaning it’s up to the protagonist(s) to take charge and do what the organization can’t. Afterwards the organization is either disbanded or slinks off into the shadows, never to be heard from again. I understand why writers do this. You can’t have a powerful organization rivaling the hero(s) constantly. But at the same time it’s gotten pretty cliché. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2015, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/27 "2015-11-08T02:36:12Z")
If the writers have the balls to really change things, they should have Adalinde and Nick become a real couple. I don’t think they intend to do that though. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2015, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/28 "2015-11-08T03:09:27Z")
I actually find Adalind a lot less annoying than Juliette at this point. I vote Nick + Adalind. Juliette can join the bad guys. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2015, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/29 "2015-11-08T03:45:53Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > I actually find Adalind a lot less annoying than Juliette at this point. I vote Nick + Adalind. Juliette can join the bad guys. 🆒 Seconded. I never really liked Juliette. Adalind is cuter, and hell of a lot more interesting. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2015, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/30 "2015-11-08T20:46:15Z")
I’ve always liked Adalind more than Juliette but I don’t think I realized quite how much until Adalind telling Rosealee" you’re my only friend" evoked a sad little “oh!” from me the last episode - because Rosealee only tolerates her. **Shoeless** , I think we’re supposed to forget it was established in season one that it was Juliette’s house. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2015, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/31 "2015-11-08T21:06:15Z")
Maybe sometime between then and now they refinanced and Nick is on the new mortgage. 🙂 On most TV shows, don’t series regulars usually get paid per episode? Since Juliette being gone is plot related, I wonder if Bitsie is getting paid anyway, or maybe she went on vacation and that’s when the filmed the scenes without her? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2015, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/32 "2015-11-08T23:15:53Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > **Shoeless** , I think we’re supposed to forget it was established in season one that it was Juliette’s house. > [@Nobody](#): > > Maybe sometime between then and now they refinanced and Nick is on the new mortgage. 🙂 Again, I don’t think it was ever established one way or the other about ownership of the house. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2015, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/33 "2015-11-08T23:56:13Z")
Well, let’s face it. This show is only about these people. Do any of them have any other friends? No? Has Juliette’s family ever been seen or talked about at all? I don’t remember if it has. I assumed she had friends, even co-workers who would care about her, but we never saw them either. TV World. No important to the plot and too often inconvenient, so magically, few real connections to other people in the world. ---
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/34 "2015-11-09T00:34:29Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > I found Chavez annoying in the way the gave cryptic answers when they showed up at the warehouse. Protip: if you’re going into a villains lair, the more information the better, both for you and for your partner. > > I’m pretty sure the Juliette is only mostly dead. But her body was never buried , so I wonder if she really is dead or brought back to life ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/35 "2015-11-14T15:13:05Z")
On the Nov 13 episode Nick explicitly said “I bought it” (the house) – Not even “we bought it” You would think the Wesen council would have some sort of a foster care program for wesen children (though they ended up in a wesen orphanage or something – at least one run by a wesen) Does Hank / Monroe know where the new place is? The best way top keep a secret is not to tell anybody, but you know sooner or later help will be needed there. The new organization seems to be sick of keeping wesen secret. Don’t think that will go over well if they do so violently (and I think they are too much a minority to take over) Brian ---
**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/36 "2015-11-14T15:26:11Z")
So now that Nick sold the house his neighbors must be feeling relief, that is, if any of them are still alive. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/37 "2015-11-14T16:33:26Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > You would think the Wesen council would have some sort of a foster care program for wesen children (though they ended up in a wesen orphanage or something – at least one run by a wesen) Yeah, seriously – I was expecting Rosalie to want to foster the girl, at least, esp. since she and Monroe had been talking about kids earlier. When that didn’t happen, I definitely expected her to contact the Wesen Council, esp. since she’s done so before. Pretty sure that orphanage is not on the Wesen Council’s list of approved placements … ---
**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/38 "2015-11-14T21:15:09Z")
I happen to like nice Adalind, but agree all hell will break loose if she re-beasts. She seemed to realize it was a lonely life as a witch. Maybe a noble self-sacrifice by beastie Adalind on her way to the SAG unemployment line… OTOH, bringing back Juliette would be a mistake, and the show would probably jump the wesenshark at that time. Some speculated it was a re-animated Juliette behind door #1, but it turned out to be Truble, and she’s in the hands of the resistance. Doesn’t mean Juliette and a giant rocking chair are behind #s 2 and 3, however. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/39 "2015-11-14T21:45:44Z")
[This article is extremely interesting](http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/11/14/grimm-cast-teases-mysteries-that-will-turn-things-on-their-head). It doesn’t give any spoilers, but gives some info on where the show is heading, and a little bit of behind the scenes info too. Also, from [here](http://www.ew.com/recap/grimm-season-5-episode-3/2) > [@](#): > > Peter Pan parallels! The episode is titled, “Lost Boys,” which of course is a reference to the lost boys in Peter Pan. The leader of the four misfits is named Peter (I shouldn’t have to explain that one,) and there are two other boys and one girl, referencing Wendy, Michael, and John (hence, “Big John.) The cherry on top? Warden “Hook.” Well played, writers. and in the comment section, > [@](#): > > The little girl was named Lily. Tiger Lily, the Indian princess, was a friend of Peter Pan and the Lost Boys, and they rescue her from Captain Hook! And she is a little different from them because she is a Fuchsbau. ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/40 "2015-11-15T10:47:15Z")
Anybody else LOL when Monroe stuck his head under the corpse’s shroud?? And I’m really surprised there isn’t a Wesen network for taking care of their own orphans. Wherever that is that’s got a hold of them now, I wonder how long that place has been working on youngsters and whether that alludes to sleeper cell type Wesen out there - meaning there could be way more than they’ve alluded to so far. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187.md?page=3)