# Grimm Season 5

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 30, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187 "2015-10-30T16:40:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/41 "2015-11-15T23:04:42Z")

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> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#):
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> Anybody else LOL when Monroe stuck his head under the corpse’s shroud??
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> And I’m really surprised there isn’t a Wesen network for taking care of their own orphans. Wherever that is that’s got a hold of them now, I wonder how long that place has been working on youngsters and whether that alludes to sleeper cell type Wesen out there - meaning there could be way more than they’ve alluded to so far.

Instead of cells, I’m thinking parallel to Muslim radicalization.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/42 "2015-11-18T00:08:51Z")

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> [@Nobody](#):
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> On most TV shows, don’t series regulars usually get paid per episode? Since Juliette being gone is plot related, I wonder if Bitsie is getting paid anyway, or maybe she went on vacation and that’s when the filmed the scenes without her?

Do we have any evidence that she hasn’t been written out of the show?

> [@RikWriter](#):
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> If the writers have the balls to really change things, they should have Adalinde and Nick become a real couple. I don’t think they intend to do that though.

After Friday’s episode I’m beginning to like the idea of Juliette possibly coming back a little better. Just picture it: a year or so from now Nick and Adalind are awkwardly raising both Kelly and newly regained Dianna with the help of wacky live-in aunt Trubel (and occasional assistance from weekend daddy Renard) when a snarling Juliette appears and threatens to knock the house of cards all down on their heads. When it comes to that Nick and Adalind realize that they’re not just together for the kids or mutual protection or convenience’s sake at all, even if they started that way and keep pretending that nothing changed it…

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/43 "2015-11-18T04:58:14Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> Do we have any evidence that she hasn’t been written out of the show?

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> After Friday’s episode I’m beginning to like the idea of Juliette possibly coming back a little better.

I’m getting mixed signals.

Anyway, it’s possible she’s truly dead and gone but I won’t believe it until the season ends with no appearance from her.

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2015, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/44 "2015-11-18T06:37:51Z")

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Much respect for the real estate agent Nick used to help him sell the house! It can’t be easy to unload a house that fast under ideal circumstances, much less one where multiple killings have recently occurred in a neighborhood where all of the neighbors are also dead.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2015, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/45 "2015-11-21T16:04:40Z")

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I was confused by something: If Nick and Adelind are living in a super-sikrit lair, how did Truble know where they were?

Kind of a lame Wesen-of-the-week – but I’ll admit it wasn’t until about 10 seconds before the reveal that I realized oh, it’s the daughter. (And why is Nick so confident that she’s okay to let go for the two murders she did commit?)

I’m beginning to think Juliette won’t be back – but maybe they’re just waiting until Nick and Adelind have consummated their budding relationship. (Have they just totally forgotten the fact that she and Hank were dating for a while back in S1?)

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/46 "2015-11-21T20:33:09Z")

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D’oh! I totally forgot that! I guess we’re all supposed to forget all that she did while was Hexen.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2015, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/47 "2015-11-21T21:02:15Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> I’m beginning to think Juliette won’t be back – but maybe they’re just waiting until Nick and Adelind have consummated their budding relationship. (Have they just totally forgotten the fact that she and Hank were dating for a while back in S1?)

Well, Nick and Adalind have a _child_ together. I think that trumps Hank and Adalind going on a few dates a couple of years ago. And Hank’s not exactly carrying a torch for her.

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2015, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/48 "2015-11-21T21:16:44Z")

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Hank only fell for her because of a magic cookie that caused him to obsess over her. Wu had one, obsessed over eating and got pica.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/49 "2015-11-21T22:20:25Z")

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I’m not saying it was an important relationship, but it seems like no one has any recollection of it at all. He was quite smitten. Well, bewitched.

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**Author:** ![Donegal\_Dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Donegal\_Dragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donegal_Dragon)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2015, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/50 "2015-11-22T13:15:47Z")

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The people that were holding Truble must have some way of tracking the Phone Nick was told to keep.  
The only way for Truble to find them?

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/51 "2015-11-23T22:57:36Z")

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Yay cousin Trubel is back! But she doesn’t look so good ☹

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/52 "2015-11-23T23:57:01Z")

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I’m guessing they’re setting the audience up for satisfaction when Meisner gets his Comeuppance.

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**Author:** ![BrianJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/54ee81/32.png) [@BrianJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrianJ)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/53 "2015-12-05T12:04:52Z")

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> [@Nobody](#):
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> I’m guessing they’re setting the audience up for satisfaction when Meisner gets his Comeuppance.

Meisner seems to be helping now, despite keeping Trubel locked up?

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/54 "2015-12-05T16:21:35Z")

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> [@BrianJ](#):
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> Meisner seems to be helping now, despite keeping Trubel locked up?

The implication is that he was trying to hide/protect her from the bad guys.

Looks like they’re setting up a love triangle between him, Nick, and Adelind?

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/55 "2015-12-05T21:13:47Z")

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OK, I’m confused about what’s going on between Trubel and Meisner. It looks like they’ll clear that up in the next episode.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/56 "2015-12-08T01:55:00Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> The implication is that he was trying to hide/protect her from the bad guys.
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> Looks like they’re setting up a love triangle between him, Nick, and Adelind?

Ugh, I get Nick being cordial and keeping her safe for the sake of the baby, but let’s not forget she raped Nick in the first place. Any storyline with them being actually a couple would be beyond ick.

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**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/57 "2015-12-08T02:48:41Z")

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Yes it would be ick, but I wouldn’t put it past the show. Since they clearly think we all forgot the house belonged to Juliette in the first place. I’ll bet they would think it’s fine since Nick managed to get it up when Juliette looked like Adelind, all’s forgiven, right? (not really, but the writers seem to have forgone logic more than once)

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/58 "2015-12-08T04:49:43Z")

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Hey hey hey, let’s not be bringing logic and reality into this show, eh?

Or there’d be far more questions about all the dead bodies, his dead neighbors, where Julliette went, why Rosalee and Monroe keep showing up at crime scenes with Nick or Wu, Juliette’s family, friends and coworkers asking questions and you know, EXISTING at all in the first place…

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/59 "2015-12-08T05:17:40Z")

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Something unimportant I’ve been wondering about. I thought that Sergeant’s outranked Detectives, yet Wu seems to be bossed around by Nick and Hank.

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**Author:** ![Donegal\_Dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Donegal\_Dragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donegal_Dragon)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/60 "2015-12-12T03:46:06Z")

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And she’s back!!!  
Juliette is now a bad-assed good guy. We’ll have some fun now.

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