# Grimm Season 5

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 30, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187 "2015-10-30T16:40:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/61 "2015-12-12T03:46:43Z")

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Thought the rescuer was Miesner until we saw the curves and magic.  
Thought of Dianne but even with advanced aging that seemed unlikely.

Was Monroe targeted because he works with a Grimm?

Brian

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/62 "2015-12-12T12:33:18Z")

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> [@Donegal\_Dragon](#):
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> And she’s back!!!  
> Juliette is now a bad-assed good guy. We’ll have some fun now.

I liked her in the platinum wig, too.

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/63 "2015-12-12T20:49:25Z")

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The way Meisner keeps Trubel, Juliette, and probably lots of others locked up until he sends them on a mission still makes me think that he and his organization are pretty damn shady and not completely one of the good guys.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/64 "2015-12-12T22:46:22Z")

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Ha! I won that bet with hubby. 🙂 I knew that was Juliette.

Does anyone else think that Trubel can’t be trusted? Apparently she’s been working for this organization for months, and she participated in the whole killing Juliette cover up. I think she was sent to Nick for some shady reason. The conversation with Adalind was weird.

Also have my fingers crossed for another Adalind/Juliette throw down. 😃

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/65 "2015-12-13T00:07:41Z")

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I can’t wait for Chekov’s motorcycle to come into play!

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/66 "2015-12-13T01:04:17Z")

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> [@ddsun](#):
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> Ha! I won that bet with hubby. 🙂 I knew that was Juliette.
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> Does anyone else think that Trubel can’t be trusted? Apparently she’s been working for this organization for months, and she participated in the whole killing Juliette cover up. I think she was sent to Nick for some shady reason. The conversation with Adalind was weird.
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> Also have my fingers crossed for another Adalind/Juliette throw down. 😃

She might have been brainwashed by Meisner. Juliette too. It wouldn’t surprise me.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/67 "2015-12-13T01:14:51Z")

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> [@Nobody](#):
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> Something unimportant I’ve been wondering about. I thought that Sergeant’s outranked Detectives, yet Wu seems to be bossed around by Nick and Hank.

Police forces differ. In Many a detective outranks a patrol Sgt.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/68 "2015-12-13T01:16:14Z")

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> [@Donegal\_Dragon](#):
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> And she’s back!!!  
> Juliette is now a bad-assed good guy. We’ll have some fun now.

Good? 😕

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/69 "2015-12-13T01:18:18Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Good? 😕

Well, for the moment at least, that’s what the writers want us to think.

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**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/70 "2015-12-14T02:29:39Z")

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Even though it was just a few seconds of screen time and no lines, I love her new look. Not just the hair/makeup/costume, but the look on her face. I don’t know about you guys, but the perpetual doe-eyed, confused, hurt, innocent look was getting on my nerves. I like angry/jaded/secretive way better on that face. The bolder makeup helps, too. I don’t want any getting back with Nick stuff in the future, but frenemy could be fun. As long as she keeps a worldly look/attitude I’ll be OK with Juliette back in the picture.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/71 "2015-12-14T04:06:41Z")

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Looked to me they’re going all Winter Soldier on her.

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/72 "2015-12-14T05:21:00Z")

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Ding ding ding. And we have a winner.

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**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/73 "2015-12-14T14:44:16Z")

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> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#):
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> I don’t know about you guys, but the perpetual doe-eyed, confused, hurt, innocent look was getting on my nerves.

In my opinion, this actress is not capable of any other look. Her inability to change her facial expression has bugged me from the very beginning. To quote Dorothy Parker, “she runs the gamut of emotions from A to B.” Too many botox injections maybe?

Her frozen-face becomes even more jarring when compared to the very capable and wonderfully expressive actress playing Rosalee.

By the way, I have the same problem with the actress playing the lead character in “Blindspot”. What do the casting directors see in these actresses?

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/74 "2015-12-15T20:27:12Z")

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Has there ever been a top-secret government organization, one so secret no one has ever heard of it, that hasn’t been the bad guys’ shenanigans?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/75 "2015-12-15T21:25:00Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> Has there ever been a top-secret government organization, one so secret no one has ever heard of it, that hasn’t been the bad guys’ shenanigans?

Warehouse 13. Agent Z. SHIELD (but there was shenanigans there, so…), ect.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/76 "2015-12-15T21:36:10Z")

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Yay! My [neighbor](http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/John_Oblinger) was in the latest episode.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/77 "2016-01-30T13:06:38Z")

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Well, we get a little more information about [strike]Juliette[/strike] Eve. Not sure why she removes here wig before locking herself up. Definitely still a Hexenbiest.

I’m not sure if this makes her less or more of an issue for Nick, but either way they are progressing the Nick\<–\>Adalind relationship.

We also have the Black Claw group named.

Brian  
tried [strike] and , forgot how to do strikeout

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/78 "2016-01-30T15:49:59Z")

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[del]Strikeout[/del] is [del]

I had a little trouble with the whole Wesen Council massacre. Nobody notices that the guy is carrying two uzis into the meeting? And one guy magically escapes while everyone else in the room is cut down? Sure, okay… :dubious: But hey, it gets the story moving and establishes that Nick and crew are “on their own” now, so I’ll go with it.

It will be interesting to see where they’re going with “Eve”.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/79 "2016-01-30T16:43:34Z")

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I like Bitsie Tulloch as Juliette, but I don’t think she pulls off “Eve.” She’s not menacing in the least, and the wig is kind of a goofy touch.

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/80 "2016-01-30T21:02:04Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> I’m not sure if this makes her less or more of an issue for Nick, but either way they are progressing the Nick\<–\>Adalind relationship.

Yeah, but they’re going to throw in Meisner for a love triangle. A little too much soap opera-ish for me, although I’ll keep watching anyway.

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