# Grimm Season 5 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 30, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187 "2015-10-30T16:40:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/81 "2016-01-30T21:07:59Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > I had a little trouble with the whole Wesen Council massacre. Nobody notices that the guy is carrying two uzis into the meeting? And one guy magically escapes while everyone else in the room is cut down? Sure, okay… :dubious: Agree 100% > [@](#): > > It will be interesting to see where they’re going with “Eve”. I don’t think they totally broke her and sooner or later she’ll turn on Meisner and his organization. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/82 "2016-01-30T22:28:42Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Agree 100% > > I don’t think they totally broke her and sooner or later she’ll turn on Meisner and his organization. Still trying to figure it out - was the meeting with Eve simply a setup to get the ‘bad wolf claw’ people there for Eve to kill one? Eve ‘remembers it all’ and is now completely one note - ‘following orders’ - I guess some arc of the season will be trying to “save her” which I find boring. As much as I groaned when Nick/Adilade kissed, the followup scene made it ‘right’. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/83 "2016-01-31T00:16:15Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Still trying to figure it out - was the meeting with Eve simply a setup to get the ‘bad wolf claw’ people there for Eve to kill one? It was a test to see if Nick would be a good addition to Meisner’s organization. > [@](#): > > Eve ‘remembers it all’ and is now completely one note - ‘following orders’ - I guess some arc of the season will be trying to “save her” which I find boring. So, if they can bring her back from the dead will we get a really big shocker when Nick’s mom shows up? > [@](#): > > As much as I groaned when Nick/Adilade kissed, the followup scene made it ‘right’. Yeah, I kind of groaned too, but I wasn’t too surprised. After all, they had been leading up to this. Although until this episode I thought maybe it was more Adalind falling for Nick instead of both of them having a mutual attraction. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/84 "2016-01-31T01:21:28Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > So, if they can bring her back from the dead will we get a really big shocker when Nick’s mom shows up? > . I think Juliette was “only _mostly_ dead.” ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/85 "2016-01-31T02:16:21Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I think Juliette was “only _mostly_ dead.” It was just a flesh wound? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/86 "2016-02-03T09:54:48Z")
Was it me or has the film quality altered drastically for S5E7 - Eve of Desctruction? It looked like a day time soap opera. Has the Days of our lives production team taken over? ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/87 "2016-02-13T08:32:49Z")
Eve must be a fan of “The Matrix” “Tell me, Mr. Anderson… what good is a phone call… if you’re unable to speak?” ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/88 "2016-02-22T05:08:31Z")
Very convenient of them to need to change the subject before looking up Trubel’s family in the _Big Book O Grimm Lineage_. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/89 "2016-02-22T11:55:34Z")
Glad the key storyline hasn’t been forgotten (but since it is in the opening credits I figured they would return to them at some point) Brian ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/90 "2016-03-05T15:37:13Z")
Okay, I know they’re in a hurry and Nick is preoccupied with having boinked Adelind, etc. – but why the hell would they just blow off the fact that there was a Wesen in that church? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/91 "2016-03-05T17:09:08Z")
I’m guessing the campaign manager–the redhead that’s been enlisting Renard to endorse her guy–is part of Black Claw and orchestrated the assassination. I’ll bet her plan is to have Renard pick up the mantle and run for mayor himself. Not sure what her motivation would be for that, though. I liked the awkward conversation between Nick and Monroe about Monroe’s ancestors “hunting.” ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/92 "2016-03-05T18:55:24Z")
I actually like “Eve” much better in this incarnation. Much less whining. I would guess that at some point she’ll start to slip her leash, or they’ll trying to “save” her, or both. I actually prefer Adalind, but I’d like to see her get her powers back. Showdown of the hexen beasts! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/93 "2016-03-05T23:19:08Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > – but why the hell would they just blow off the fact that there was a Wesen in that church? Wesen are everywhere. There’s bound to be some wesen church members. > [@Tangent](#): > > I’m guessing the campaign manager–the redhead that’s been enlisting Renard to endorse her guy–is part of Black Claw and orchestrated the assassination. I’ll bet her plan is to have Renard pick up the mantle and run for mayor himself. Not sure what her motivation would be for that, though. Yeah, when she took her cell call right before the mayor got shot I thought maybe she’s in on it. Oh, almost forgot. That hiding place was flimsily hidden. I seriously doubt Nick and Monroe are the first in 800 years to find it. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/94 "2016-03-06T19:53:55Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Wesen are everywhere. There’s bound to be some wesen church members. Sure – but they’re looking for a church with some kind of Grimm power something or other in it, and they know the Black Claw contingent is after them. This is not like going to the grocery store and seeing a Wesen. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/95 "2016-03-07T01:26:31Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Sure – but they’re looking for a church with some kind of Grimm power something or other in it, and they know the Black Claw contingent is after them. This is not like going to the grocery store and seeing a Wesen. Maybe they’d never suspect a beaver of being part of Black Claw. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/96 "2016-03-07T18:17:50Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Maybe they’d never suspect a beaver of being part of Black Claw. Nick’s a cop – a detective, in fact. He’s supposedly trained to … ah, fuggedaboudit, it’s a dumb plot hole to get hung up on. ---
**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/97 "2016-03-10T15:47:12Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > I’m guessing the campaign manager–the redhead that’s been enlisting Renard to endorse her guy–is part of Black Claw and orchestrated the assassination. I’ll bet her plan is to have Renard pick up the mantle and run for mayor himself. Not sure what her motivation would be for that, though. I am confused about: a) the eagle-eye sniper was shown a photo of Renard b) then he shoots the mayor Yeah I get that it was a bait and switch, but it seems to have been handled illogically and clumsily. [is clumsily even a real word?] Did the cell phone call the redhead received (or initiated?) change the intended target? ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/98 "2016-03-10T16:03:24Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > It was a test to see if Nick would be a good addition to Meisner’s organization. > > So, if they can bring her back from the dead will we get a really big shocker when Nick’s mom shows up? > > Yeah, I kind of groaned too, but I wasn’t too surprised. After all, they had been leading up to this. Although until this episode I thought maybe it was more Adalind falling for Nick instead of both of them having a mutual attraction. I have a feeling that somehow Eve/Juliette and Adalind will trade the hexenbiestness somehow, and we’ll be back eventually to evil Adalind the hexenbiest, and plain old human Juliette, but with all the baggage involved in all that, and poor Nick will be left to figure all that crap out. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/99 "2016-03-10T18:08:36Z")
> [@bump](#): > > I have a feeling that somehow Eve/Juliette and Adalind will trade the hexenbiestness somehow, and we’ll be back eventually to evil Adalind the hexenbiest, and plain old human Juliette, but with all the baggage involved in all that, and poor Nick will be left to figure all that crap out. IF they actually go there - I will quit watching - there is no reason to do all of that switcheroo again from a story standpoint. I can see a storyline where Juliette gets jealous of the new relationship, and has to come to terms with it - and then her dying the real final death. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187/100 "2016-03-10T18:39:23Z")
> [@bump](#): > > I have a feeling that somehow Eve/Juliette and Adalind will trade the hexenbiestness somehow, and we’ll be back eventually to evil Adalind the hexenbiest, and plain old human Juliette, but with all the baggage involved in all that, and poor Nick will be left to figure all that crap out. That’s what I predicted a few months ago: > [@Tangent](#): > > Here’s my wild guess as to what is going to happen. Adalind is really being softened and her likability increased in the show to make her fate more tragic. She will have to somehow sacrifice her new ‘normal’ life to save Juliette. Juliette will be de-hexenbiested and Adalind will become full hexenbiest again, with all the villainous tendencies that go along with that. Adalind will go rogue, and Nick and Juliette will raise the child. I still think this is a strong possibility, but I won’t mind being surprised by something different. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm-season-5/736187.md?page=6)