# Grimm **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 29, 2011, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194 "2011-10-29T16:03:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/281 "2012-03-11T03:49:39Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Not a bad episode. I guess the daughter dragon living means Nick has someone to still worry about. > > And I wonder if Juliette is human after all. I was thinking they’ll eventually reveal her to be something, but if she was I think Monroe would have been able to smell it. But maybe not. > > It’s nice that we’ll finally get to see what the captain is up to. > > I’m wondering if the aunt never told Nick about his heritage because she wants to break with tradition. It seems that the vessen that hold on to the old ways don’t do so well. So maybe by not having Nick be like all the other Grimms she was hoping to change things for the better. Or maybe I’m over thinking things. It will be kind of interesting to see. Forget the dragon lady for a moment, what about the alleged Reaper that beheaded the Grimm in Germany? I can never get enough Monroe. I never thought that Juliette was anything but human. It’s kinda boring this way, but if she was a creature, it would have been cliché. I like your thinking about breaking with tradition. > [@Nobody](#): > > :eek: I missed that. **Grimm** is helping me fill the void left by the break **Fringe** is taking. I’ve already given up on **Once Upon a Time**. Now what’s left? I thought **Once Upon A Time** was clearly the better show early, but **Grimm** has improved. I’m still watching both shows. EDIT: fixed autocorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/282 "2012-03-11T04:11:02Z")
I thought this was one of the best \*Grimm \*episodes yet. The dragon people were actually kind of neat, as far as murderous were-creatures go. The daughter dragon made a good villain–I hope we see her again. I like Juliette so I hope they aren’t going to kill her off or have her leave Nick. Looks like we’ll see the Hexenbiest lawyer woman again in the next episode. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/283 "2012-03-11T06:19:04Z")
> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#): > > Forget the dragon lady for a moment, what about the alleged Reaper that beheaded the Grimm in Germany? Well, reapers kill grimms. It’s what they do. Although, seeing as how there are reapers in Portland who haven’t tried to kill Nick, I’m betting they’re part of the organization the captain wants Nick to join. Maybe the reaper that killed the German grimm is what the queen bee was trying to warn Nick about. By the way, I think that’s a bad pun, grimm reaper. And I usually like bad puns. > [@](#): > > I like your thinking about breaking with tradition. Thank you. > [@](#): > > I thought **Once Upon A Time** was clearly the better show early, but **Grimm** has improved. I’m still watching both shows. Nothing wrong with Once Upon a Time, but it just couldn’t sustain my interest. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/284 "2012-03-11T12:59:33Z")
Whaddya think, will it be renewed for next year? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/285 "2012-03-11T14:47:41Z")
FWIW, **TVbytheNumbers** currently has \*Grimm \*listed as “certain to be renewed.” ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/286 "2012-03-11T15:38:36Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > FWIW, **TVbytheNumbers** currently has \*Grimm \*listed as “certain to be renewed.” **like** ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/287 "2012-03-11T19:25:09Z")
It’s a pretty decent show, although now that they’re getting more into the story arc I’m hoping it will get better. ---
**Author:** ![pikkdogs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cc9497/32.png) [@pikkdogs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pikkdogs)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/288 "2012-03-11T20:23:16Z")
I really loved that last episode. That young dragon lady, Dameonfuhrer or whatever they call them, enters the story at the right time. She is just like Cat Woman, the whole kind of bad, but kind of good thing, and the love interest with the hero. I love Cat Woman, and she is a good copy. Part of me really wants to see the main character get with her. His girl friend, although hot herself, has just been boring, whiny, and always complains. They should either give her a 3D character, or just drop her. Does anyone know who played the dragon lady? She was really hot. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/289 "2012-03-11T20:45:56Z")
> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#): > > I thought **Once Upon A Time** was clearly the better show early, but **Grimm** has improved. I’m still watching both shows. I’m watching both, too, and I like both of them. They are obviously pretty different shows in terms of tone and scope (and budget) so I think comparisons must be made with that in mind. I do think _OUAT_ does a better job of mixing in episodic stories along with the overall mythology and the serial storylines involving the Queen, Snow, Charming, Rumpelstiltskin, Emma, and Henry. I hope \*Grimm \*starts showing us more episodes that deal with the backstory of the Grimms and the wesen. ---
**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/290 "2012-03-11T21:29:04Z")
Both shows have characters who are not the title characters but are, by far, the most interesting characters on their respective shows, in Monroe and Rumpelstiltskin/Mr. Gold. I’d watch a spinoff of either one. ---
**Author:** ![Helena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c68b51/32.png) [@Helena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2012, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/291 "2012-03-11T21:44:42Z")
From [this interview with Bitsie Tulloch](http://nicegirlstv.com/2012/03/07/grimm-bitsie-tulloch-discusses-this-weeks-juliette-centric-episode/) (Juliette): > [@](#): > > As I mentioned before, episode 16 is really, really fascinating. It’s an episode coming up that really breaks away from the mold in a way that I think some fans have really been craving which is there’s a lot less of the procedural and a lot more of sort of character building and the relationship and that stuff in the episode. > > And you have the great subplot of — or main plot rather — of the monster and Nick having to solve it but it’s not sort of in the mold of the procedural and everything. It even takes place somewhere a little bit far away from that. And I think – I’m very excited to see how the fans react to that episode and hopefully they’ll like it and it sells and I think that that will probably give the writers a little bit more freedom to write a little bit more of that kind of stuff. So I’m looking forward to that. ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/292 "2012-03-12T22:44:48Z")
I didn’t like the Hitler thing from the episode before last. My first thought was “Wow. A show has been godwinized and jumped the shark at the same exact time!” Well, neither was true, but it made me snicker. But, really it sort of encapsulates a small problem I have with the show. Every villain is a creature. No regular human is ever shown to be evil. Monster of the week is a problem with these type of shows, and this is literally what this show has been. I think I would prefer to have some episodes that focus on Grimm’s overreaching story ark, and less on whatever monster he is chasing. On top of that, let’s see some regular scumbag human beings to mix things up. On a good note. I thought the last couple of episodes were very good (aside from the Hitler bit.) They introduced a couple of characters who seem to have a possibility for an interesting return. (I like the Cat Woman comparison. Rings true to me.) And, as always, Munroe has been awesome. And, the lead actor has grown on me as the episodes have gone on. I didn’t like the girlfriend being so put off by the Grimm not returning home in time for dinner. It didn’t seem like it made sense in the context of living with a (tv) cop boyfriend. So, I think they did a much better job of explaining her aggravation with the kidnapping this episode. I don’t think she can control being pissed off about being kidnapped by hot chicks. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/293 "2012-03-12T22:51:03Z")
> [@pricciar](#): > > I didn’t like the Hitler thing from the episode before last. My first thought was “Wow. A show has been godwinized and jumped the shark at the same exact time!” Well, neither was true, but it made me snicker. But, really it sort of encapsulates a small problem I have with the show. Every villain is a creature. No regular human is ever shown to be evil. Monster of the week is a problem with these type of shows, and this is literally what this show has been. I think I would prefer to have some episodes that focus on Grimm’s overreaching story ark, and less on whatever monster he is chasing. On top of that, let’s see some regular scumbag human beings to mix things up. > > On a good note. I thought the last couple of episodes were very good (aside from the Hitler bit.) They introduced a couple of characters who seem to have a possibility for an interesting return. (I like the Cat Woman comparison. Rings true to me.) And, as always, Munroe has been awesome. And, the lead actor has grown on me as the episodes have gone on. > > I didn’t like the girlfriend being so put off by the Grimm not returning home in time for dinner. It didn’t seem like it made sense in the context of living with a (tv) cop boyfriend. So, I think they did a much better job of explaining her aggravation with the kidnapping this episode. I don’t think she can control being pissed off about being kidnapped by hot chicks. The villian from the missing girl episode was a run of the mill human monster - the victim was a vessen (young blutbad). Actually - ALL of the villians from that episode were human (the drug grower at the beginning, the two brothers that went avenging). ---
**Author:** ![pikkdogs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cc9497/32.png) [@pikkdogs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pikkdogs)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/294 "2012-03-12T23:15:46Z")
-Nah If I wanna see human criminals I will watch junk like CSI. This is more of a science fiction show, let’s see some science fiction stuff. -Yeah that Hitler thing was really weird. On one hand it was very chilling to watch it, but on the other it was really weird. It seems like they could have handled that better. It was supposed to come off as really dramatic, but it just came off as weird. ---
**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2012, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/295 "2012-03-13T00:08:07Z")
> [@simster](#): > > The villian from the missing girl episode was a run of the mill human monster - the victim was a vessen (young blutbad). > > Actually - ALL of the villians from that episode were human (the drug grower at the beginning, the two brothers that went avenging). Good point. I’m totally wrong. There’s also the episode where the high school creature kid is a bullied and gets framed by regular human kids. ---
**Author:** ![Helena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c68b51/32.png) [@Helena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/296 "2012-03-16T17:54:40Z")
Just saw the news–season 2 is a go! (Yay!) They’re on hiatus right now, then coming back with a three-episode arc on March 30, then one more week off, and then should be a straight run till the end. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/297 "2012-03-16T19:21:19Z")
[Link for the skeptics](http://bit.ly/wk2Cou) – it’s definitely been renewed. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/298 "2012-03-16T21:38:03Z")
Good news! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/299 "2012-03-17T06:18:11Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Whaddya think, will it be renewed for next year? Yep. [http://www.tvline.com/2012/03/grimm-season-2-renewed/](http://www.tvline.com/2012/03/grimm-season-2-renewed/) ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grimm/601194/300 "2012-03-17T08:09:19Z")
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