How bout a Grizzly in four feet of water with a Great White?
How about a velociraptor vs the grizzly?
Velociraptor was the size of a large dog. Wouldn’t stand a chance. The creatures depicted in Jurassic Park were more like Deinonychus on speed. Dramatic theatrical hype & stuff. I suppose being a pack animal they could take a grizzly.
Yeah I know, I was talking about a normal velociraptor not the over sized things in Jurrasic Park. I son’t think a grizzly would stand much of a chance against a Deinonychus, but a velociraptor on the other hand would give the grizzly a sporting chance. Assuming theories on how they hunt I’ve read in nonfiction books are true, I think it would all depend on if the velociraptor manged to get around to get on the grizzly’s back.
I guessed given confusion Jurrasic Park generated I should have been more clear that I meant a real velociraptor and not a Jurrasic Park velociraptor.
Sorry, netscape 6 I hope I didn’t sound patronizing. :o
Yes I suppose a velociraptor would have the advantage of speed. But if it’s one on one my money is still on the grizzly.
My humble opinion. 
I don’t worry about it. Had our positions been reversed I might have said virutally the same thing.
Well, Grizzly Bears are just 2/2’s, and Silverback Apes are 5/5’s, so I don’t see how this is any contest. Even with a Giant Growth on the Bears, they’d still destroy each other in combat.
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I have to go with the bear. But why speculate? Let’s get the go-ahead fromPETA and set up the ring!
I saw a nature special about grizzly bears and I was amazed by one part where a full grown bear turned tail and ran away after the appearance of a bull moose. A fight would have been cool but it was obvious that the bear wanted no part of that moose.
Shame on the nature show hosts for not setting this up better.
I’m also reminded of the bull and bear fight scene in Paint Your Wagon. Unfortunately, I think the movie ended before the fight was resolved.
Well, a few years ago I saw another nature show where a mother grizzly killed a bull moose on camera… it seemed to be sick or something, and there was really no fight to be had. It was very boring - the bear grabbed the moose by the nose/snout with it’s teeth, and just pulled and held the head down while the moose just stood there pulling back… the grizzly’s two cubs just stood there watching. That’s about it. I think it took about half an hour or so for the moose to die, and the extent of the action was a motionless tug-of-war. They obviously cut out a lot of footage, and the end result was all three bears eating the moose. About the most boring kill I’ve ever seen on TV, even though by the sounds of the participants it should have been the most exciting.
Bear fights are always exciting to watch however. There have been several on TV… that’s one place I’d never want to be. Watching Johnny Knoxville get trashed by that muzzled wrestling bear was scary enough - especially re-watching the part where he described the bear almost breaking his neck effortlessly.
so the grizzly bear > silverback gorilla?
k, how about the gorilla vs a tiger/lion?
IMHO the velociraptor sucks when alone.
Wolverine > shoggoth > tyrannosaurus rex > elephant > hippo > giraffe > polar bear > grizzly bear > tiger > lion > silverback gorilla > **velociraptor ** > hyena > cheetah > pro-wrestlers > man > alsatian > ostrich > pig > cow > mongoose > cat > snake > chihuahua > rat > hamster > cricket > mayfly > earthworm > shark > octopus > mackerel > ebola > Jabberwocky
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IMO - Stoid nailed it. It is the behavior difference that plays the biggest key. Gorillias are more bluff. The Griz will also bluff, but is very apt to try and kill if it becomes enraged. I don’t know how much damage a Gorillia could take. But, Griz’s have been known to take very serious damage and still keep coming when enraged.
For lion / tiger vs griz - I would go with the lion or tiger IF the cat was big enough to either get on its back and pull it down and / or get the killing suffication bite on the bear’s throat or muzzle.
Would the gorilla’s intellect be a disadvantage because it will be more prone to be scared instead of just blind, raging fighting like the bear? If the gorilla indeed was smart, it would know very well that it’s life was close to done… the bear just sees an enemy and goes buck wild!
I think it would depend on the motives of the animals. Protecting young or brink of starvation are good motives, good fuel to fight hard. That would be the deciding factor probably.
If everything is equal, with no obstacles or weapons nearby, I’d have to say bear because:
- The bear could probably take more hits because it’s hard to hit the center of gravity of something so blubbery and its hard to pierce such thick skin with hair on it.
- It has more weight from which to gain striking leverage on the gorilla. It doesn’t need to use the ground to produce force.
- Claws.
I’m having a hard to time imagining how a gorilla would enter the immediate area of the bear without getting raked…
However, if there were trees around, the gorilla could definately utilize them to jump down on the big guy… that would change things quite a bit.
No, the grizzly would win all the time, as the gorilla could never be armed.
The Second Amendment only guarantees our right to keep and arm bears.
Regards,
Shodan