# Groucho's cigar

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grouchos-cigar/848298>\
**Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\
**Created:** [February 21, 2020, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grouchos-cigar/848298 "2020-02-21T12:12:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grouchos-cigar/848298/21 "2020-02-23T14:38:34Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> You are not special.

You’re just upset about that time White Fang bit Springsteen.

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grouchos-cigar/848298/22 "2020-02-24T18:18:22Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> False memories are easy to get.
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> I was on Bozo, yes, verified. And I “remember” “cram it clowny”. But that didnt happen either.
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> OTOH, Bozo was more terrifying than funny, and that has been verified by many kids on his show.

Clown makeup dates back from circus days, when the ring was sometimes quite a distance from the audience – think Barnum and Bailey and all those arena shows. To be seen at that distance clown makeup had to be really big, big enough to be out of proportion and creepy when seen up close.

TV clowns didn’t understand this so much, or at least Larry Harmon didn’t, anyway.

It’s still an issue today; I’ve known a few professional clowns and most of them are more restrained for the birthday party/hospital clown side of things. But go to any show and see “Clown Alley” and it’s all writ large on their faces.

Jenny  
your humble TubaDiva

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grouchos-cigar/848298/23 "2020-02-24T21:39:32Z")

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[This](https://www.washington.edu/news/2001/06/11/i-tawt-i-taw-a-bunny-wabbit-at-disneyland-new-evidence-shows-false-memories-can-be-created/) is my favorite study on false memories. A surprisingly number of people were easily convinced that they met Bugs Bunny and such at Disneyland.

I’m sure that to this day many of them respond to points like Bugs is Warner Brothers, not Disney, with things like “How do you know? You weren’t there.” and such.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grouchos-cigar/848298/24 "2020-02-25T14:49:31Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> OTOH, Bozo was more terrifying than funny, and that has been verified by many kids on his show.

Robyn Asimov (Isaac’s daughter) was terrified of Bozo when Isaac got her into the studio audience (she liked Bozo when he was small, and black and white on the TV screen, but large-as-life, and orange was different) (cite: Asimov’s autobiography “In Joy Still Felt”)

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grouchos-cigar/848298/25 "2020-02-25T16:25:08Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> [This](https://www.washington.edu/news/2001/06/11/i-tawt-i-taw-a-bunny-wabbit-at-disneyland-new-evidence-shows-false-memories-can-be-created/) is my favorite study on false memories. A surprisingly number of people were easily convinced that they met Bugs Bunny and such at Disneyland.
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> I’m sure that to this day many of them respond to points like Bugs is Warner Brothers, not Disney, with things like “How do you know? You weren’t there.” and such.

But, but, Bugs was in _Who Framed Roger Rabbit?_ with Mickey Mouse!

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**Author:** ![minor7flat5](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minor7flat5/32/258_2.png) [@minor7flat5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minor7flat5)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grouchos-cigar/848298/26 "2020-02-25T18:01:08Z")

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A more recent TV example is my solid memory that Mikey will eat anything. “Let’s give it to Mikey, he’ll eat anything.”

I am absolutely convinced that that was the line in the Life commercial from the 1970s.

…except the line really was “he hates everything” and there are plenty of videos on YouTube to back this up.

I’m wondering how they managed to change it in so many place, because I remember “he’ll eat anything” 😉

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grouchos-cigar/848298/27 "2020-02-25T23:21:26Z")

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> [@minor7flat5](#):
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> A more recent TV example is my solid memory that Mikey will eat anything. “Let’s give it to Mikey, he’ll eat anything.”
> 
> I am absolutely convinced that that was the line in the Life commercial from the 1970s.
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> …except the line really was “he hates everything” and there are plenty of videos on YouTube to back this up.
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> I’m wondering how they managed to change it in so many place, because I remember “he’ll eat anything” 😉

Yep, I remember that also.

However, Groucho did say

> **[The Essential Groucho](https://books.google.com/books?id=uYxEDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA225&lpg=PA225&dq=groucho%2Bmarx%2B%2Byou%2Bare%2Bthe%2Bpower%2Bcompany&source=bl&ots=xzllAwTbXG&sig=ACfU3U3oKhZIFhwcKBOlqoY4BeJrC2wPhQ&hl=en&ppis=_e&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiTz7zt6u3nAhVPvJ4KHeRiBwkQ6AEwD3oECA4QAQ#v=onepage&q=groucho%20marx%20%20you%20are%20the%20power%20company&f=false)**
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> Groucho Marx may be the funniest man who ever lived.  Here in one volume are the classics of Marxian mayhem: excerpts from the scripts of the immortal movies, passages from his books, his articles for magazines ranging from The New Yorker to the...

GM: Do you have a job?

Father of Triplets: Yes, i work for the power company

GM; My boy you dont _work_ for the power company, you \*are \*the power company."

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