# Groundhog Day the musical ...

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 17, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groundhog-day-the-musical/763038 "2016-08-17T01:17:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groundhog-day-the-musical/763038/1 "2016-08-17T01:17:17Z")

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… [seems to be a complete triumph](http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/stage/tim-minchins-masterful-groundhog-day-musical-receives-five-stars-after-premiere-20160816-gqu91u.html), better reviews than Matilda ! \*\*Tim Minchin \*\*does it again. No mention of the Andie McDowell role in that article, one can only assume they got someone who can actually act, sing and dance.

I generally hate musicals but that’s looks like one I might see. Anyone seen/seeing/will see it?

[To get the obvious joke over with - Yes! Again and again and again …]

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groundhog-day-the-musical/763038/2 "2016-08-17T01:22:09Z")

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Yeah, I’d go see it…but I think my ticket spend limit would be like $20.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groundhog-day-the-musical/763038/3 "2016-08-17T01:48:11Z")

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I could see it again and again and again and again …

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groundhog-day-the-musical/763038/4 "2016-08-17T03:05:41Z")

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> [@Askance](#):
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> [To get the obvious joke over with - Yes! Again and again and again …]

> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> I could see it again and again and again and again …

That’s the problem with obvious jokes, they’re never “over with”.

Groundhog Day is one of my favourite movies. I never once thought “it could use a couple of musical numbers”. No thanks. I am curious if they have a few songs resung multiple times, with tiny alterations.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groundhog-day-the-musical/763038/5 "2016-08-17T03:50:38Z")

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It’s Tim Minchin. So yes, I’ll check it out. On YouTube, though; I can’t afford tickets and stuff.

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**Author:** ![flaming\_yawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cab0a1/32.png) [@flaming\_yawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flaming_yawn)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groundhog-day-the-musical/763038/6 "2016-08-17T16:41:12Z")

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I got you babe… Opening number?

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     I still to this day will say out loud Phil? Phil Conners! Lucky my family gets it, people at my 25 high school reunion not so much.
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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groundhog-day-the-musical/763038/7 "2016-08-17T17:01:17Z")

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Think of the fact that the actors will have to repeat this day after day after day after day. That will be very meta.

Trivia: the amount of time it’s estimated the main character spends in his time loop ranges from 36 days (the minimum amount based on the scenes shown) to more than 30 years (no idea how that was arrived at, though part is the estimated time it would take him to go from never having played piano or carved an ice sculpture to those levels of expertise).

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**Author:** ![Les\_Espaces\_Du\_Sommeil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/les_espaces_du_sommeil/32/308_2.png) [@Les\_Espaces\_Du\_Sommeil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Les_Espaces_Du_Sommeil)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groundhog-day-the-musical/763038/8 "2016-08-17T17:36:12Z")

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Music by **Philip Glass**?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groundhog-day-the-musical/763038/9 "2016-08-17T18:27:18Z")

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Maybe we can figure out how many days are repeated by how many times the chorus is sung.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groundhog-day-the-musical/763038/10 "2016-08-17T19:43:54Z")

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> [@flaming\_yawn](#):
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> I got you babe… Opening number?
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> ```
> I still to this day will say out loud Phil? Phil Conners! Lucky my family gets it, people at my 25 high school reunion not so much.
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> ```

NED?! _punches_

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groundhog-day-the-musical/763038/11 "2016-08-18T01:00:51Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Trivia: the amount of time it’s estimated the main character spends in his time loop ranges from 36 days (the minimum amount based on the scenes shown) to more than 30 years (no idea how that was arrived at, though part is the estimated time it would take him to go from never having played piano or carved an ice sculpture to those levels of expertise).

I read somewhere that the writer or director (can’t remember which) thought of it as being about ten years.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groundhog-day-the-musical/763038/12 "2016-08-18T01:36:11Z")

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As per [wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundhog_Day_(film)):

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> Time loop duration speculations  
> Estimates regarding how long Phil remains trapped in the loop, in real time, vary widely. During filming, Ramis, who was a Buddhist, observed that according to Buddhist doctrine, it takes 10,000 years for a soul to evolve to its next level. Therefore, he said, in a spiritual sense, the entire arc of Groundhog Day spans 10,000 years.[4] In the DVD commentary, Ramis estimated a real-time duration of 10 years. Later, after several on-line sites arrived at a total of eight years, eight months, and 16 days, Ramis told a reporter, “I think the 10-year estimate is too short. It takes at least 10 years to get good at anything, and allotting for the down time and misguided years he spent, it had to be more like 30 or 40 years.”[5] In 2014, the website WhatCulture tallied various time duration assumptions and estimated that Phil spent a total of 12,395 days—just under 34 years—reliving Groundhog Day.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groundhog-day-the-musical/763038/13 "2016-08-18T02:26:13Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Think of the fact that the actors will have to repeat this day after day after day after day. That will be very meta.
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> Trivia: the amount of time it’s estimated the main character spends in his time loop ranges from 36 days (the minimum amount based on the scenes shown) to more than 30 years (no idea how that was arrived at, though part is the estimated time it would take him to go from never having played piano or carved an ice sculpture to those levels of expertise).

The usual wisdom is that it takes 10,000 hours to become expert at a skill. If he learned piano, French, and ice sculpting, and could only feasibly spend 2 hours a day studying then - depending on whether he overlapped his studies - it would take him anywhere from 5,000 to 15,000 days (14 to 41 years). The 30 year estimate sounds pretty reasonable.

And horrible. I somehow doubt that you’d actually come out sane after 30 years of living the same day over and over, let alone become a better person.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groundhog-day-the-musical/763038/14 "2016-08-20T17:43:43Z")

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[Tim Minchin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Minchin) is definitely a multi-talented person who has achieved fame in several areas.

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**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2016, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groundhog-day-the-musical/763038/15 "2016-08-20T21:43:44Z")

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It’s a musical now - obviously it was 525,600 minutes. 😉

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groundhog-day-the-musical/763038/16 "2016-08-21T01:37:23Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> [Tim Minchin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Minchin) is definitely a multi-talented person who has achieved fame in several areas.

And he [likes boobs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bEGLbCNRqw).
