# Groups you like but that suck live.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 20, 2012, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groups-you-like-but-that-suck-live/610141 "2012-01-20T16:16:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![brittekland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@brittekland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brittekland)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groups-you-like-but-that-suck-live/610141/81 "2012-01-23T01:05:44Z")

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I just saw Amy Winehouse’s little show she had in 2007 on cable. I was a bit disappointed that she just seemed not so into it. She was good but I expected her to be much more energetic. The half of her band also were also lethargic, I thought.

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**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groups-you-like-but-that-suck-live/610141/82 "2012-01-23T16:22:46Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> Mötley Crüe. Vince Neil has one of the worst live voices in rock.

> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> I always say that most groups sound bad live but live Motley Crue is the group I am thinking of when I say that. They sound really bad live.

> [@Edward\_The\_Head](#):
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> I got free tickets to see them live a few years ago. We got box seats with free booze and food. They were so bad I _still_ feel ripped off. They are the worst band I have ever seen live.

I’m old enough to remember when they were a new band. I was never impressed with them. Especially Tommy Lee, who struck me as a pesty kid brother who only got to play because mom made that a condition for letting Nikki have a band.

That impression was reinforced when I took two of my nephews to see them on the Dr. Feelgood tour. His “piano solo” intro for Home Sweet Home magically kept playing while he was walking back to the drums. Then there was his drum “solo”. He climbed into a cage above the audience that spun around and moved back and forth on a rail, while they played what sounded like a pom squad mix tape and he kind of banged along on the bass drum and cymbals.

Mick Mars’ idea of a guitar solo was ten minutes of random noodling on a rack of about 3 or 4 steel guitars. Nikki Sixx, who seemed to spend most of the evening just hammering on the big string, didn’t even attempt a solo.

I might go so far as to call Vince’s singing mediocre, but even that was only achieved with the help of two (probably underpaid) female backup singers.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groups-you-like-but-that-suck-live/610141/83 "2012-01-23T17:15:49Z")

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> [@DonLogan](#):
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> There’s bands like Aerosmith where you never know what you’re going to get. I’ve seen them 4 times, 1976, 1984, 1989, and 2009. The first show was horrendous, but this was probably near the peak of their drug problems. The rest were good, although the 2009 tour seemed cursed, there were all kinds of weird injuries happening.

I saw them 1998 on the 9 Lives tour, whose songs contributed to the horrible show.

I’ll also nominate Pearl Jam as being crap on a live stage. I came to hear the songs I like sung the way I like them. Come on, Eddie.

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**Author:** ![Mooch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mooch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mooch)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groups-you-like-but-that-suck-live/610141/84 "2012-01-23T18:09:36Z")

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I would have to say MF DOOM for among other reasons (3 hours late, terrible sound, extremely short show) [wasn’t even him on stage](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mf_doom#Live_show_controversy).

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**Author:** ![67java89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/aeb1de/32.png) [@67java89](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/67java89)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groups-you-like-but-that-suck-live/610141/85 "2012-02-02T13:01:55Z")

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Not a group, but Taylor Swift. Definitely awful live.

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**Author:** ![skylyn12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@skylyn12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skylyn12)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groups-you-like-but-that-suck-live/610141/86 "2012-02-02T14:05:35Z")

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Smashing Pumpkins… I really like some of their studio work, but that concert was the worst thing I have ever heard. Billy can’t actually sing (it appears) and the band was awful. Lots of long, pointless, boring feedback ‘solos’ after songs didn’t help either.

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**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groups-you-like-but-that-suck-live/610141/87 "2012-02-02T20:06:22Z")

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I’ve not seen them personally, but I think every DLR-Van Halen clip I’ve seen on youtube is next to appalling. Dave misses lines, preens to the point of being embarrassing for even a woman, doesn’t stretch to the real notes, and generally acts like he’s doing the crowd a favor by being on stage.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groups-you-like-but-that-suck-live/610141/88 "2012-02-02T20:44:41Z")

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> [@brittekland](#):
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> I just saw Amy Winehouse’s little show she had in 2007 on cable. I was a bit disappointed that she just seemed not so into it. She was good but I expected her to be much more energetic. The half of her band also were also lethargic, I thought.

Was that before or after she died?

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**Author:** ![brittekland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@brittekland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brittekland)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groups-you-like-but-that-suck-live/610141/89 "2012-02-02T20:59:53Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> Was that before or after she died?

Since I said “I just saw” it, \*\* A F T E R !\*\* Geeesh… :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groups-you-like-but-that-suck-live/610141/90 "2012-02-02T21:03:40Z")

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> [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](#):
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> I’ve told this story on here before, but Dio (R.I.P.) was impressively bad live.
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> I saw him in 1996 in NYC. Motorhead opened, and they were great… then Dio came on and things went downhill. Ronnie’s singing was OK, but he chose to wear a brown tunic. It’s hard to be am impressive metal singer when you look exactly like Gargamel.
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> Then the lead guitarist did a solo that seemed to go on forever. I am sure I could have played a better solo, and I don’t play guitar. It sounded like a 20 minute catfight.
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> Then for the encore, Ronnie introduced “Rainbow In The Dark” by describing the song as “a chain around my fucking neck”. Thanks!

IMO, when an artist gets to the point that he feels the material which made him famous is a “chain around his neck” then it’s time to call it quits.

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**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groups-you-like-but-that-suck-live/610141/91 "2012-02-02T21:04:19Z")

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> [@brittekland](#):
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> Since I said “I just saw” it, \*\* A F T E R !\*\* Geeesh… :rolleyes:

Did Amy play her hit “Whoosh”?

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**Author:** ![brittekland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@brittekland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brittekland)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groups-you-like-but-that-suck-live/610141/92 "2012-02-02T21:09:16Z")

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> [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](#):
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> Did Amy play her hit “Whoosh”?

I’m pretty positive about who’s exactly being serenaded with that “Whooosh” song. 😛

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**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groups-you-like-but-that-suck-live/610141/93 "2012-02-02T21:18:20Z")

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> [@jz78817](#):
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> IMO, when an artist gets to the point that he feels the material which made him famous is a “chain around his neck” then it’s time to call it quits.

Yes, but Dio always hated “Rainbow In The Dark”. I heard a discussion of him shortly after he died, and after he recorded the song, his whole band had to convince him not to erase the master tape and that the song was actually good.

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**Author:** ![waits](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df788c/32.png) [@waits](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waits)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/groups-you-like-but-that-suck-live/610141/94 "2012-02-04T07:35:28Z")

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There’s a YouTube video of the Beatles in Japan during one of their last tours (early 1966, I think). You’d swear it was four guys who had never met each other before.

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