# Grover Cleveland was an asshole

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 11, 2026, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grover-cleveland-was-an-asshole/1031593 "2026-07-11T15:46:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grover-cleveland-was-an-asshole/1031593/21 "2026-07-12T23:28:33Z")

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And his deceased father-in-law gave his name to a grouch…

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2026, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grover-cleveland-was-an-asshole/1031593/22 "2026-07-12T23:33:03Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> That “Ma, ma, where’s my Pa?” thing, for instance

Yeah, but that came up during the election. Shortly after he took office, he married Frances. Since she was young and pretty, she drew the public’s attention.

[![](https://i.ibb.co/d05ZbBJn/IMG-2261.jpg) ](https://i.ibb.co/d05ZbBJn/IMG-2261.jpg)

It’s funny. We think of the late 1800s as a much more staid time. But voters seemed to have no issue with looking past Cleveland’s personal life and credited him with his professional accomplishments. Kind of like Bill Clinton, I guess.

The public also loved Frances. That she was only 21, and sort of raised by Garfield, doesn’t seem to have mattered. If anything, it was seen as romantic.

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**Author:** ![StringsandHammers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stringsandhammers/32/17933_2.png) [@StringsandHammers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StringsandHammers)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grover-cleveland-was-an-asshole/1031593/23 "2026-07-13T14:42:22Z")

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Grover Cleveland was an asshole!

Andrew Jackson says “hold my beer.”

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grover-cleveland-was-an-asshole/1031593/24 "2026-07-13T14:49:31Z")

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I don’t think that Andrew Jackson ever told anyone to hold his beer while he did something stupid. He’s the sort who would be chugging while doing the stupid thing.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grover-cleveland-was-an-asshole/1031593/25 "2026-07-13T15:14:34Z")

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> [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](#):
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> Google denies this, but it specifically says Cleveland “.did not urinate out of the Oval Office window.” And I recall what I read saying that the alleged pissing took place at his office before he was president.

Well, the Oval Office wasn’t built until much later. So, Google is certainly correct.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grover-cleveland-was-an-asshole/1031593/26 "2026-07-13T18:52:06Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> The current asshole president gets his skin tone from a [muppet](https://www.toughpigs.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Janice-sitting.jpg).

Don’t compare my beloved Janice to Trump!

She is elegant, well spoken, beautiful… and, well, yes, orange.

But naturally orange.

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