# Grow up, leander. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451 "2008-11-19T15:00:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/101 "2008-11-22T00:57:06Z")
If you’re pitting **Q.E.D**., Pit me too. I answer the same questions in the same way, and sometimes I google my answers. Plus, I wish I knew half as much shit as he does. ---
**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/102 "2008-11-22T01:06:32Z")
And after the pitting, the oral sex. [/zoot] ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/103 "2008-11-22T14:47:08Z")
> [@leander](#): > > As a GQ mod with “some degree expertise” (sic) you should really try doing your job better. This is really not going the way you planned, is it? ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/104 "2008-11-22T15:09:04Z")
[**This is really not going the way you planned, is it? - Google Search**](http://www.google.com.do/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=ZbZ&q=This+is+really+not+going+the+way+you+planned%2C+is+it%3F&btnG=Search) ~The Real “GoogleMan” ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/105 "2008-11-22T16:18:07Z")
> [@leander](#): > > As a GQ mod with “some degree expertise” (sic) you should really try doing your job better. You’re quite right. I should have checked your other posts in GQ and issued you a formal warning like **SkipMagic** did, rather than just a caution. I admit that was negligent of me. Mea culpa. It won’t happen again. [QUOTE=leander] You all are of course free to continue to pit me – but at the end of the day, if you care at all about this place and its mission statement then you will see Google boy for what he really is – a fraud and a drain on fighting ignorance. [/QUOTE] You don’t care jack shit about this place or the fight against ignorance. Since you returned in September of this year after the board went free, the _only_ posts you have made in GQ have been the three harassing **Q.E.D.** Some great and noble contribution you’re making to the struggle. There are few things that are more pathetic than trying to defend your own juvenile behavior by wrapping yourself in the banner of the fight against ignorance. If you had a problem with **Q.E.D.** , you should have had the balls to pit him, rather than pulling the weak shit you did. Moron. ---
**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/106 "2008-11-22T18:42:22Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > You don’t care jack shit about this place or the fight against ignorance. Since you returned in September of this year after the board went free, the _only_ posts you have made in GQ have been the three harassing **Q.E.D.** Some great and noble contribution you’re making to the struggle. What the fuck? You have totally ignored **leander** ’s contribution to [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=163430) as recently as February, 2003. > [@leander](#): > > **pièce de résistance** n, pl **pièces de résistance** [F, lit., piece of resistance] (1839) 1: the chief dish of a meal 2: an outstanding item or event: showpiece. I only wish I could carry around details like this in my head. You can only stand back and admire someone who can post this kind of detail without first looking it up in a dictionary. ---
**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/107 "2008-11-22T19:27:11Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > I was going to say that you just linked to the same thread again and again. Then I took a closer look. > > Wow. WTF? It’s like Cyber Stalking. It’s unreal. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/108 "2008-11-22T19:46:41Z")
> [@Chez\_Guevara](#): > > I only wish I could carry around details like this in my head. You can only stand back and admire someone who can post this kind of detail without first looking it up in a dictionary. That’s true. I suspect that in real life **leander** is Miriam Webster. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/109 "2008-11-22T20:40:30Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > Well, that’s how I read it, but \*\*askeptic \*\*seemed so sure of his Big Word Prowess that I had to ask for an explanation. Maybe he’ll pop in with an > _apol·o·gy_ ( \ə-ˈpä-lə-jē). Ah, well. 'Twas a vain hope at best. ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/110 "2008-11-22T21:04:32Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > You’re quite right. I should have checked your other posts in GQ and issued you a formal warning like **SkipMagic** did, rather than just a caution. I admit that was negligent of me. Mea culpa. It won’t happen again. > > You don’t care jack shit about this place or the fight against ignorance. Since you returned in September of this year after the board went free, the _only_ posts you have made in GQ have been the three harassing **Q.E.D.** Some great and noble contribution you’re making to the struggle. > > There are few things that are more pathetic than trying to defend your own juvenile behavior by wrapping yourself in the banner of the fight against ignorance. If you had a problem with **Q.E.D.** , you should have had the balls to pit him, rather than pulling the weak shit you did. > > Moron. Wow - I must have touched a nerve. Performance anxiety? 😛 If you would do your job properly then Google boy would not be allowed to post his idiotic answers. A few have been pointed out already - as I mentioned earlier, I will try to dig up some more when I have time. Now please scurry off back to your sandtrap to mod such wise pearls of wisdom such as “My dog is horking” and “Are “pardoned” turkeys actually saved?” Your noble fight against ignorance is duly noted! ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/111 "2008-11-22T21:09:22Z")
> [@leander](#): > > A few have been pointed out already - as I mentioned earlier, I will try to dig up some more when I have time. You’ve had 36 hours since you last mentioned that. How much time do you need? ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/112 "2008-11-22T21:13:54Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > Ooooh! Me next! Insult meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! > > 😛 Your breath could knock a buzzard off a shitwagon at 30 paces. > [@evlkitty](#): > > Can I make a reservation for an insult too, please? I think we can work you in next Thursday. Can I interest you in a snide aside until then? > [@leander](#): > > If you would do your job properly then Google boy would not be allowed to post his idiotic answers. I wouldn’t presume to speak for **Colibri** here, but I just have to ask what you think a mod’s job _is_? Do you honestly believe that we monitor every thread, rushing forth to fact-check every single post (without using Google, natch), and determine whether the person making the post is speaking from firsthand knowledge or (_gasp_) verifying answers using search engines? Granted, you’ve managed to provide us with hard, cold, evidence that **Q.E.D.** has made several errors in the past few years, but why would we waste mod time verifying them all when we have a perfectly good stalker to do it for us? Oh, wait. That won’t work. Because you jump in to critique his answers _even when he’s right_. Sorry, **leander** , I don’t always get along with **Q.E.D.** , but you’re the one that’s being an ass here. ---
**Author:** ![Rack-a-Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rack-a-Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rack-a-Bones)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/113 "2008-11-22T21:26:04Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > That’s true. I suspect that in real life **leander** is Miriam Webster. Oooooh. Merriam Webster is gonna be \*\*pissed \*\*someone is walking around impersonating a dictionary Is “Did you Google that” going to become the next meme around here? I sure hope not. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/114 "2008-11-22T22:04:35Z")
> [@leander](#): > > Wow - I must have touched a nerve. Performance anxiety? 😛 Not in the slightest. > [@](#): > > If you would do your job properly then Google boy would not be allowed to post his idiotic answers. Nonsense. You’re just showing complete lack of understanding of what a GQ moderator’s job is. It’s not against the rules to post incorrect information, nor is it our responsibility as moderators to verify information or to check whether answers are correct. That’s the task of other posters who may have knowledge of the subject. Our job is to keep the discussion on track. If you believe **Q.E.D.'s** answers to be incorrect, why don’t you make any attempt to correct them? If you care about the integrity of GQ, that’s your responsbility as a poster. There have been thousands of questions in GQ in the three months since you have been posting again. Evidently you have been following GQ closely, since you know so much about **Q.E.D.'s** posting habits. Yet in all this time, you haven’t found one single thread to which you felt you could make a factual contribution. That bespeaks a pretty astonishing level of ignorance on your part. > [@](#): > > A few have been pointed out already - as I mentioned earlier, I will try to dig up some more when I have time. We’ll wait. It would also be useful if you calculate the percentage of answers **Q.E.D.** got correct versus the ones you think are wrong. > [@](#): > > Now please scurry off back to your sandtrap to mod such wise pearls of wisdom such as “My dog is horking” and “Are “pardoned” turkeys actually saved?” Your noble fight against ignorance is duly noted! I’m not sure what this is even supposed to mean. ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/115 "2008-11-22T22:49:46Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Not in the slightest. Your posts suggest otherwise. > [@Colibri](#): > > Nonsense. You’re just showing complete lack of understanding of what a GQ moderator’s job is. It’s not against the rules to post incorrect information, nor is it our responsibility as moderators to verify information or to check whether answers are correct. That’s the task of other posters who may have knowledge of the subject. Our job is to keep the discussion on track. > > If you believe **Q.E.D.'s** answers to be incorrect, why don’t you make any attempt to correct them? If you care about the integrity of GQ, that’s your responsbility as a poster. I have neither the time nor the patience to follow Google boy around correcting his mistakes. But hopefully calling him out on it will dissuade him a bit – not likely, but possible. I should also note that Google boy has been warned and disciplined for “junior modding”. It’s a shame he can’t be disciplined for this crap as well, though it appears that you like having a little pet over there to keep things moving, even if he’s wrong a lot. > [@Colibri](#): > > I’m not sure what this is even supposed to mean. It means that GQ has turned into a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Rack-a-Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rack-a-Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rack-a-Bones)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/116 "2008-11-22T22:55:15Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > \ > > I’m not sure what this is even supposed to mean. I believe he is trying to mock you or GQ for some [previous](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=494164&highlight=turkeys+pardoned) [questions](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=494164&highlight=turkeys+pardoned) posted to GQ. You really should be ashamed.:dubious: ETA: I guess he doesn’t like GQ ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/117 "2008-11-22T22:59:43Z")
Ok, after a bit of searching I have found five instances in the _past month alone_ in which Google boy has been wrong. You can judge for yourselves: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10411121#post10411121](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10411121#post10411121) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10403266&postcount=13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10403266&postcount=13) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10393378&postcount=6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10393378&postcount=6) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10391629#post10391629](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10391629#post10391629) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10362353#post10362353](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10362353#post10362353) And of course, as pointed out earlier, there was the “Como talle vu” matter, which for some odd reason really seems to set him off. ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/118 "2008-11-22T23:01:41Z")
> [@Rack-a-Bones](#): > > I believe he is trying to mock you or GQ for some [previous](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=494164&highlight=turkeys+pardoned) [questions](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=494164&highlight=turkeys+pardoned) posted to GQ. You really should be ashamed.:dubious: > > ETA: I guess he doesn’t like GQ Actually, I think he should be ashamed. When Manny was running the place it was much different. Now it’s full of crap and misinformation (see Google boy for more on this). And all he says is, “It’s not my job”. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/119 "2008-11-22T23:28:20Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I’m not sure what this is even supposed to mean. > [@leander](#): > > It means that GQ has turned into a joke. > [@leander](#): > > Actually, I think he should be ashamed. When Manny was running the place it was much different. Now it’s full of crap and misinformation (see Google boy for more on this). And all he says is, “It’s not my job”. I am not defending \*\*leander \*\*and I don’t wish to support him but in his snark there is some truth. Now I don’t care if **Q.E.D.** enjoys jumping in with a first answer. At least he is honestly trying to give an accurate answer and I don’t see where he is hurting the board. What I do think hurts the board is the idiots that jump into GQ within the first hour a post is made to make a stupid and usually tired joke instead of a real answer or useful post on where to look. Then there are those that post what their Aunt Sally told them when they were a kid instead of waiting to see if a real answer from knowledgeable poster is coming. Almost ever other forum is open to opinions and dumb jokes, why can’t we keep a higher standard in GQ at least? It has been talked about before and I thought the GQ Mods agreed but it does not seem like the dumb jokes ever get even a Mod note. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2008, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451/120 "2008-11-23T00:26:35Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > I am not defending \*\*leander \*\*and I don’t wish to support him but in his snark there is some truth. Now I don’t care if **Q.E.D.** enjoys jumping in with a first answer. At least he is honestly trying to give an accurate answer and I don’t see where he is hurting the board. > > What I do think hurts the board is the idiots that jump into GQ within the first hour a post is made to make a stupid and usually tired joke instead of a real answer or useful post on where to look. Then there are those that post what their Aunt Sally told them when they were a kid instead of waiting to see if a real answer from knowledgeable poster is coming. > > Almost ever other forum is open to opinions and dumb jokes, why can’t we keep a higher standard in GQ at least? It has been talked about before and I thought the GQ Mods agreed but it does not seem like the dumb jokes ever get even a Mod note. > > Jim Hangs head. :: I’m sorry :: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grow-up-leander/473451.md?page=7)