# GRRR!!! No more iPod Classic?! **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 13, 2014, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grrr-no-more-ipod-classic/698355 "2014-09-13T01:11:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grrr-no-more-ipod-classic/698355/21 "2014-09-13T23:08:56Z")
This vexes me a little even though it doesn’t immediately affect me. I have no use for other Apple products. I have 13,000+ songs and 90+ GB. I “need” this many because I like diversity, and like listening to entire albums not just random crap on shuffle. > [@suranyi](#): > > Yes, I see the iPhone 6 is available with 128GB. That makes it a viable replacement for the iPod. Previous versions of the iPhone didn’t have enough capacity. Hmm… \<$250 or $850 to $950? 160 GB or 128 GB, minus included OS space? Hmm… tough decision… (price w/ no contract). ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grrr-no-more-ipod-classic/698355/22 "2014-09-13T23:54:01Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > Huh. My entire music library, assembled over decades and including a fair amount of classical, just exceeded 9 gigs. > > What the HELL do you people have to carry around with you? Almost none of what’s on my iPod is music. It’s mostly audio books, radio shows, podcasts - that sort of thing. And I have a system. I download stuff, load it onto the iPod, and get it off my computer’s hard drive. It can sit forever on the iPod until I feel like getting around to it. I like it that way. ---
**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grrr-no-more-ipod-classic/698355/23 "2014-09-14T00:46:59Z")
While I bemoan the loss of the iPod Classic in theory… in practice, my 64 GB iPod has been in a drawer since I switched to an iPod touch (32 GB, enough for my “essential music”) and then to an iPhone (also 32 GB). I miss the days of the clickwheel/and buttons instead of a touch screen I have to look at. And yet, while I could carry both, I never actually have. I suspect that Apple is responding to a lot of people like me in the market. If there’s not enough demand for the higher capacities, it makes sense to phase them out, even if it leaves some people stranded. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grrr-no-more-ipod-classic/698355/24 "2014-09-14T02:11:49Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > Funny, three times the cost for less storage doesn’t sound like a viable replacement to me. I said “viable”, not perfect. Previous versions of the iPhone maxed out at 32GB, so it couldn’t replace an iPod no matter how much you were willing to pay. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grrr-no-more-ipod-classic/698355/25 "2014-09-14T03:04:42Z")
> [@dracoi](#): > > While I bemoan the loss of the iPod Classic in theory… in practice, my 64 GB iPod has been in a drawer since I switched to an iPod touch (32 GB, enough for my “essential music”) and then to an iPhone (also 32 GB). I miss the days of the clickwheel/and buttons instead of a touch screen I have to look at. And yet, while I could carry both, I never actually have. > > I suspect that Apple is responding to a lot of people like me in the market. If there’s not enough demand for the higher capacities, it makes sense to phase them out, even if it leaves some people stranded. I’m sort of in the same position. Even though I love having my entire collection on my iPod, I bought a Nano because it’s small and ok to jog with. But then I just started using the Nano all the time because it’s easier to carry than the iPod. Personally I hate Apple anyway. With their stupid pretentious bullshit stores for nerds. Why do I need to make a fucking appointment with some smug prick to do what should be a 5 minute product exchange in any other store on the planet? ---
**Author:** ![GreasyJack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@GreasyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreasyJack)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grrr-no-more-ipod-classic/698355/26 "2014-09-14T03:11:33Z")
> [@Shalmanese](#): > > You can always get a [Sansa Clip](http://shop.sandisk.com/store/sdiskus/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.153934700?ClickID=a5lwz0tnr005towkstltokstkpzsnrr9plrr) for $33 and then either a $30 64gb microSD card or a $110 128gb microSD card. Both are cheaper than an iPod classic and give you the option of infinite expandability via microSD cards. Those devices don’t do well with big SD cards. They support up to 32 GB, but if you’ve got anywhere close to that amount of compressed files the library gets unacceptably slow. On the newer Clips, SanDisk doesn’t recommend more than 16 GB cards for MP3’s. [http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a\_id/200/~/highest-capacity-memory-card-supported-by-a-sansa-player](http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/200/~/highest-capacity-memory-card-supported-by-a-sansa-player) I suspect at some point soon there’ll be a flash memory based player with comparable storage to the hard drive based Classics, but they’ll probably be fairly spendy. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Joker\_and\_the\_Thief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e79b87/32.png) [@The\_Joker\_and\_the\_Thief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Joker_and_the_Thief)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grrr-no-more-ipod-classic/698355/27 "2014-09-14T03:12:27Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > Storage capacity and ease of replacement. I would have been more okay with the latest versions of the MacBook Pro if it used a standard, replaceable 2.5" SDD instead of soldering memory directly onto the motherboard. I’ll agree with that. I was planning on buying a baseline Macbook Air and building it into a much better machine, but Apple soldiered the SSD and RAM on. I suppose that saves a negligible amount of space, but it’s very annoying. Still, you should look into SSDs. They’re much more durable than hard drives, which is all the more important for something like an iPod that’s moved about. ---
**Author:** ![RickF\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d26b3c/32.png) [@RickF\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickF_1)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2014, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grrr-no-more-ipod-classic/698355/28 "2014-09-14T11:13:01Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > So hidden amidst the new watch and phone stuff last week was the quiet death of the beloved iPod Classic. What do I do now when my current one dies?! I’m all about capacity. Please don’t bother to explain why I’m so incredibly behind the times, out of date, or any of that nonsense. I don’t want to justify why, but I need an mp3 player with lots of gigs available. I have about 90 gigs of stuff on mine right now. And now, all of a sudden, the biggest replacement I can get is a 64 gig iPod Touch - IF I want to plunk down $300 for it! Ridiculous. I’m so annoyed. > > Is anyone aware of any alternative in the 100 gig range? Yes, here’s 1 > **[Amazon.com: FiiO X5 High Resolution Lossless Music Player : Electronics](https://www.amazon.com/Fiio-X5-Portable-Lossless-Balanced/dp/B00JD4YX1G)** > > Amazon.com: FiiO X5 High Resolution Lossless Music Player : Electronics ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2014, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grrr-no-more-ipod-classic/698355/29 "2014-09-15T22:19:49Z")
Got a Classic you’re willing to pull apart? Alternatively, find one on ebay or kijiji that has suffered a hdd malfunction. [ssd](http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/runcore-pata-zif-ssd/) [Flash drive](http://www.tarkan.info/store) [Bigger battery](http://www.ipodbatterydepot.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2014, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grrr-no-more-ipod-classic/698355/30 "2014-10-10T18:43:07Z")
If I’d seen this a month ago I’d have gone out and bought one on the spot. Now I see the price at Amazon has shot up to $450 or more from $250 or less. That’s one way to tell a really good discontinued product from all the dross. Most stuff, the vendors discount their remaining inventory just to get them off the shelves. The really good stuff, the price skyrockets. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2014, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grrr-no-more-ipod-classic/698355/31 "2014-10-10T19:18:06Z")
> [@GreasyJack](#): > > Those devices don’t do well with big SD cards. They support up to 32 GB, but if you’ve got anywhere close to that amount of compressed files the library gets unacceptably slow. On the newer Clips, SanDisk doesn’t recommend more than 16 GB cards for MP3’s. > > [http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a\_id/200/~/highest-capacity-memory-card-supported-by-a-sansa-player](http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/200/~/highest-capacity-memory-card-supported-by-a-sansa-player) > > I suspect at some point soon there’ll be a flash memory based player with comparable storage to the hard drive based Classics, but they’ll probably be fairly spendy. I use [RockBox](http://www.rockbox.org/) with my Sansa Clip. It doesn’t seem to have the issues with taking forever to update its database. What I really like about the Sansa is that it just looks like an external drive, so you can actually find the files you have on there and transfer to another computer you have, you can avoid using iTunes (which I loathe), and you can store whatever else you want on there, too. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2014, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grrr-no-more-ipod-classic/698355/32 "2014-10-10T20:12:44Z")
IPods are external drives too, and don’t require iTunes. You just have to turn disk mode on. In some circumstances the filenames are gibberish but the id3 tags are still there. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grrr-no-more-ipod-classic/698355/33 "2014-10-11T01:56:47Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > In the world that used to be, this would have been an opportunity for someone to enter the market with something along those lines; but alas, that alternative may be done in by the worshippers of (grandiose musical fanfare) _The Cloud!!_(loud cheering crowds). Big IT are not just betting on the Cloud, they’re actively working to make it so you’ll \*have \*to park your 100GB not in an iTouch or something similar but in (grandiose musical fanfare) _The Cloud!!_(loud cheering crowds) – **their** Cloud, natch. I love this. Screw the Cloud. ---
**Author:** ![GreasyJack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@GreasyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreasyJack)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grrr-no-more-ipod-classic/698355/34 "2014-10-11T02:17:38Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I use [RockBox](http://www.rockbox.org/) with my Sansa Clip. It doesn’t seem to have the issues with taking forever to update its database. Are you using a ginormous SD card full of songs? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grrr-no-more-ipod-classic/698355.md?page=1)