# grude, do you have something on your mind?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 20, 2014, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906 "2014-10-20T09:35:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/41 "2014-10-21T05:23:41Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> Really? Can you point me to some source (other than **grude** ) that can confirm that it’s common for folks in Trinidad to refer to someone eating on a park bench as “old nigger” behavior?
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> Thanks.

Unfortunately, I cannot confirm either way as that discussion was nixed.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/42 "2014-10-21T06:19:10Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> In all honesty, I think there was some meat to his “Trinidad nigger” thread.
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> Shame all the pissy-pants got their way.

I think it was a mercy-killing rather than anyone with urine-soaked trousers. I don’t think it would have been shut down if **grude** had taken a different tack with his OP - if he’d just did a standard complaint thread about being called a foul name, rather than the rambling one he did, people would actually have given him a hearing, I think. I mean, I find it interesting that that expression exists there. I also find the dynamics of grude’s maritial relationship interesting (in a trainwreck kind of way). But the way **grude** posted, it was never going to just be a commiseration/information thread.

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**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/43 "2014-10-21T06:38:51Z")

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I agree, **MrDibble**. Suspiciously trollish OP. Just like here, where he says he doesn’t like saying the N-word, but he certainly doesn’t mind typing it. I had to read the thread title in MPSIMS a couple of times to believe that it said what it did. That’s why I put a caveat in my post responding to the word “pickney”.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/44 "2014-10-21T07:00:07Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> They taste like Grape Drink.

I believe it’s _drank_.

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**Author:** ![Boogly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Boogly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boogly)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/45 "2014-10-21T08:36:26Z")

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Why would you read threads and not contribute to your original idea, even if it is to recognize that your point of view might have changed?

The US can not stop 100% of the rapes, however there has been no claim to stop ALL THE RAPES. That is a problem with a ‘free’ country, people are free to be asshats until they are caught for whatever asshattery they’ve done.

Can you show cite a country that is 100% rape free? This is a BS argument that cherry picks the arguments you can win. Stay on target or STFU.

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> I hate attention, I hate strangers talking to me, I doubly hate strangers talking to me and using racial slurs. I have no clue how to respond, the whole situation is so absurd. Then it happens again, and again, then strangers call your kid a pickney.

Either learn to eat in a closet in your house or grow some nuts are realize that not everybody out there is going to agree with who/what you are.

You don’t even have to do anything because anything you do will be looked down on by somebody.

Why would you let what other people say about you determine what you think about yourself? Unless it is a jury saying your a mass murderer or something…

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/46 "2014-10-21T09:14:54Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> I think it was a mercy-killing rather than anyone with urine-soaked trousers. I don’t think it would have been shut down if **grude** had taken a different tack with his OP - if he’d just did a standard complaint thread about being called a foul name, rather than the rambling one he did, people would actually have given him a hearing, I think. I mean, I find it interesting that that expression exists there. I also find the dynamics of grude’s maritial relationship interesting (in a trainwreck kind of way). But the way **grude** posted, it was never going to just be a commiseration/information thread.

It would be interesting to hear from, say, Bahamians or Jamaicans or Haitians, about the usage of, and attitudes about, the word ‘nigger’ in their countries.  
Grude’s thread was just a weird little rant, though, going nowhere.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/47 "2014-10-21T09:35:52Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> It would be interesting to hear from, say, Bahamians or Jamaicans or Haitians, about the usage of, and attitudes about, the word ‘nigger’ in their countries.  
> Grude’s thread was just a weird little rant, though, going nowhere.

Yep.

A little googling did show other cites for the term ‘old nigger’ in Trinidad, so I don’t think he’s making it up.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/48 "2014-10-21T09:57:12Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> This is the part where I like to interject that grape drink turns your shit green.

This shit was greened by the Grapist.

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**Author:** ![Boogly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Boogly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boogly)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/49 "2014-10-21T10:06:33Z")

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So he hates being in a culture where is called the names he is called are names that is culturally acceptable?

He hates attention…don’t draw attention.

Trinidad is primarily Indian and African ([Demographics of Trinidad and Tobago - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Trinidad_and_Tobago))

How is this racist at all? Just because a term is racist in the US doesn’t mean it is the same worldwide.

If you hate where you are…why don’t you leave? Or at least prepare to leave?

Or are you a dum nigz?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/50 "2014-10-21T11:11:10Z")

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> [@Boogly](#):
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> How is this racist at all? Just because a term is racist in the US doesn’t mean it is the same worldwide.

Granted. But posting about it repeatedly on this message board is, at the very least, either cultural tone deafness to a dangerous degree, or outright trolling. I still haven’t decided, hence this thread rather than just another entry in the [SDMB Bigoted Asshole Omnibus Thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=653465). If he’s just having some sort of senility-inspired cloud-yelling episode, that would also be good to know.

ETA: although, IME, “I’m sick of race being rubbed in my fucking face” is code for “I’m a racist but I don’t like being called on it” if some other examples on this board are to be believed.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/51 "2014-10-21T13:37:01Z")

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It’s not even really code at this point.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/52 "2014-10-21T13:42:28Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> It’s not even really code at this point.

It’s code, just not very hard to crack - it’s the Pig Latin of racist codes!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/53 "2014-10-21T13:48:08Z")

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Iggernay.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/54 "2014-10-21T13:59:58Z")

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Acistray!!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/55 "2014-10-21T14:49:40Z")

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Wonder if it’s okay to call someone a rolltay outside the Itpay.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/56 "2014-10-21T15:04:14Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Wonder if it’s okay to call someone a rolltay outside the Itpay.

That’s just silly.

It should be “olltray”. 😃

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/57 "2014-10-21T18:31:04Z")

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Honestly I agree with some of the criticisms of me here, I admit I don’t understand thread etiquette.

Sometimes a thread gets moved, like the P-zombie one. My question was answered early on, but now people are having an interesting discussion which I follow but I don’t really have anything to add. Other times I don’t know if I should thank people who provided really good answers in the thread.

I have tried to practice better thread behaviour, I know I was pretty bad when I first joined. I do try to provide clarification or answer questions, except for extremely minor stuff.

And I’m sorry for the super personal threads, I have decided not to bitch about my life or family etc anymore. I realize people don’t like it, I have been under a lot of stress and I guess I had no one to talk to so I was using the board. I don’t really put forth a mask or filter, but I should. And yea my latest thread was probably ill advised, I get why it was closed.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/58 "2014-10-21T18:39:42Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> This shit was greened by the Grapist.

😃

You’ve just redefined threadshitting.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/59 "2014-10-21T19:32:16Z")

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> [@Boogly](#):
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> Or are you a dum nigz?

[Moderating]  
While discussion about racial slurs is allowed here, aiming them at other posters is not. This is an official warning not to do this again.  
[/Moderating]

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**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/grude-do-you-have-something-on-your-mind/701906/60 "2014-10-22T07:52:04Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> […] And I’m sorry for the super personal threads, I have decided not to bitch about my life or family etc anymore. I realize people don’t like it, I have been under a lot of stress and I guess I had no one to talk to so I was using the board. […]

Don’t know if you know about it but there’s a thread in MPSIMS called MMP specifically for people to post the super personal stuff that irks them. (MMP is an acronym for Monday Morning Post) People post any day of the week about the stuff that’s bugging them. Perhaps you could give that a try sometime. (There’s even a sticky at the top of the forum explaining it better than I just did.)

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