# Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 - seen it. (Open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 28, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465 "2017-04-28T23:39:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/61 "2017-05-08T16:24:04Z")
Saw it the other day with a bunch of my kids/nieces/nephews. I liked it, although the element of novelty from the first film was missing and I thought splitting up the team into two separate plots was a mistake. I liked the development of Yondu, and Baby Groot was great. That reminds me, I loved the opening credits scene focusing on little Groot while the rest of the team fought the giant space monster in the background and just off-screen. The soundtrack was alright but not nearly as brilliant as GotG1. My daughter’s friend was a little traumatized by the huge amount of impaling going on. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/62 "2017-05-08T16:32:34Z")
Saw it yesterday and I liked (But didn’t love) the movie. It seemed that it was trying just a bit too hard to be, quite literally, Guardians of the Galazy Vol. 2. The comedy was trumped up, the action was trumped up and the movie had a “You liked this? Here’s MORE!” attitude. I’m probably in a the minority, but I like the tear-jerking aspect of it as something different in a Marvel movie. I was definitely sniffling at the ending, but I like that a superhero movie can make me feel like that. This one might have to sit on me a while, and I’ll definitely have to see it again when it’s on video in order to get the full effect of the movie…but in the day after I saw it I can say that I liked the movie a lot, but didn’t completely love it. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/63 "2017-05-08T16:36:30Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > I found the whole “Yondu and Rocket take back the ship” scene was worse given that them systematically hunting down and killing all the mutineers was pretty much played for laughs and visual gags. That was a pretty jarring error in taste. That was one of the best scenes in the entire movie and perfect in tone for the movie. > [@FinsToTheLeft](#): > > Deadpool was every bit of funny as it thought it was. I was laughing hysterically throughout the movie. Same here. I thought GotG 2 was better than the first. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/64 "2017-05-08T16:48:28Z")
I wish Yondu’s death was saved for GotG 3. His story was too condensed in this one. They brought up the whole “Exiled from the Ravagers” background just to have it resolved at the very end. I think it would have had more impact to have him redeem himself in this one and sacrifice himself in the next. Plus, I would have liked to see him on Earth. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/65 "2017-05-08T16:52:16Z")
I loved it. I thought it was easily as good as GotG1. It was absolutely hilarious. The action sequences were done well. And Yondu’s funeral was emotional for me. I’ll probably go see it again in theatres in a couple of weeks and I’ll buy it when it comes out for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/66 "2017-05-08T17:09:57Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > I’m probably in a the minority, but I like the tear-jerking aspect of it as something different in a Marvel movie. I was definitely sniffling at the ending, but I like that a superhero movie can make me feel like that. As for the “tearjerking” aspect, I thought Logan did a much better job of showing and eliciting from the audience real emotion. Partly this was because Logan was a much smaller scale story. ---
**Author:** ![Personal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Personal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Personal)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/67 "2017-05-08T17:10:12Z")
> [@Polerius](#): > > I did not like it. The villain wasn’t interesting, the storyline wasn’t interesting, the “daddy issues” scenes were boring, Nebula really had no interesting role in the story, and even the music was not as good as in the first movie. > > The only thing holding this movie were the quirky characters and some funny one-liners. Otherwise, a terrible movie. > > FYI, I’d give the first one a 7.5/10 and this one a 3/10. This about sums it up for me too, except I wouldn’t call it “terrible.” I’d add that it was 45-minutes too long – I was getting restless. It took too long to get to the McGuffin. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/68 "2017-05-08T17:15:36Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I wish Yondu’s death was saved for GotG 3. His story was too condensed in this one. They brought up the whole “Exiled from the Ravagers” background just to have it resolved at the very end. I think it would have had more impact to have him redeem himself in this one and sacrifice himself in the next. Plus, I would have liked to see him on Earth. I agree. I would have liked to see Yondu really become one of the team, for his death to have more meaning. This was the death of a secondary character who wasn’t even a good guy in the last movie. ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/69 "2017-05-08T20:24:02Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > And the scene of them dragging the pleading guy to the airlock & tossing him out… All I heard was the lady beside me whisper “nooooo…Chibbs…” ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/70 "2017-05-11T17:16:19Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Dammit, this damn movie made me cry. “I’m Mary Poppins, y’all.” I immediately heard that in my head as ‘I’m Mary Poppins, Bitches!’ ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/71 "2017-05-11T23:38:18Z")
Loved it. Probably the best movie I’ll see this year… Although, in the interest of full disclosure, the only other movies I _plan_ to see this year are _Wonder Woman_ and _Ragnarok_. Also, if Michael Rooker doesn’t at least have a cameo in the rumored upcoming Mary Poppins movie, I shall be disappointed. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/72 "2017-05-12T02:54:06Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > I agree. I would have liked to see Yondu really become one of the team, for his death to have more meaning. This was the death of a secondary character who wasn’t even a good guy in the last movie. Actually I would have liked to see Yondu get a scene with Ego. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/73 "2017-05-12T08:47:30Z")
saw it last night with my wife, we both loved it (and she is not a comic geek). Laughed so hard so many times. Funeral scene was very moving (might be because we’d just come from my sister’s eulogy service , though). I want to go out to a space-firework show. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/74 "2017-05-12T11:20:25Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > I found the whole “Yondu and Rocket take back the ship” scene was worse given that them systematically hunting down and killing all the mutineers was pretty much played for laughs and visual gags. That was a pretty jarring error in taste. It was rather similar to the ending of Kingsman, wasn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/75 "2017-05-12T11:49:59Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > I found the whole “Yondu and Rocket take back the ship” scene was worse given that them systematically hunting down and killing all the mutineers was pretty much played for laughs and visual gags. That was a pretty jarring error in taste. Seemed to fit right in, for me. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/76 "2017-05-12T13:38:03Z")
> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#): > > All I heard was the lady beside me whisper “nooooo…Chibbs…” You might have been sitting by my wife. She and I had that same reaction! 🙂 ---
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I honestly thought the way Yondu ended the mutiny was very much fitting with the tone of the first movie. Yondu’s not a good guy, per se. The Ravagers aren’t good guys. They’re space pirates. “Cartoony violence happening in large amounts while the protagonists engage in badass procession to the command center/captain’s launch/etc” is James Gunn, Marvel director, all the way. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/78 "2017-05-12T16:41:55Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > I found the whole “Yondu and Rocket take back the ship” scene was worse given that them systematically hunting down and killing all the mutineers was pretty much played for laughs and visual gags. That was a pretty jarring error in taste. Loved it. Prior to that scene we never really got an idea of just how powerful the arrow was. There was a lot of cringing around it and plenty of scenes where he stopped it jussst in front of somebody, but watching him kill a hundred or so Ravagers without a care in the world was awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/79 "2017-05-12T17:48:18Z")
> [@Polerius](#): > > I did not like it. The villain wasn’t interesting, the storyline wasn’t interesting, the “daddy issues” scenes were boring, Nebula really had no interesting role in the story, and even the music was not as good as in the first movie. And it was too short! > [@Penfeather](#): > > I found the whole “Yondu and Rocket take back the ship” scene was worse given that them systematically hunting down and killing all the mutineers was pretty much played for laughs and visual gags. That was a pretty jarring error in taste. In the first film, Yondu killed a ship full of Sakaaran soldiers in the first movie by impaling with his arrow, Quill kills a bunch of Sakaarans while entering the _Dark Aster_ (“Just like Kevin Bacon!”), Groot also impales and brutally smashes others, and of course Ronan and Nebula murder everybody on the Kyln prison station (albeit all we hear is some offscreen shooting and yelling). Gamora is apparently known galaxy-wide as a mass killer, Rocket and the former Groot were bounty hunters who reveled in causing pain(“Yeah, writhe, little man!” after shooting Quill in the back), and Drax the Destroyer just likes smashing and killing for fun. For their part the Ravagers are not scruffy ragmuffins but professional thieves and mercenaries _who eat people as delicacies_; fuck those guys. The off-Earth Marvel universe seems to be a pretty brutish and largely lawless place where you can get your arm hacked off just for looking sideways at somebody in a remote desert world tavern…oh, sorry, that’s _Star Wars_, but the same principle applies. And for Gunn, horrific injury and death played for dark comedic sensibility is kind of his métier. That the particular tone of _Guardians_ is one of casual violence is not new to this film, and the language, tone, and depth of the film clearly indicate that its intended audience is not children. That this film wasn’t as “fresh” as the first film was kind of inevitable, especially given how stylistically different the first film was from all of the other Marvel properties that came before it. Gunn could have tried to do something completely different, but instead he followed through in building up his universe and focusing the story on character development. Sacrificing Yondu gave some depth to the film without compromising the core Guardians team, and frankly I can’t think of another actor better suited to play Quill’s father than Kurt Russell, though I did find the final battle between them to be somewhat drawn out. He certainly made a better villain than Ronan (not Lee Pace’s fault, the character just didn’t have enough development or menace to get too worked up over), and along with Loki and Pierce gives one of the more memorable appearances. My two criticisms of the film is that I thought the soundtrack was not as memorable as the first film (all I can remember besides “Brandy” was “Southern Nights”, “The Chain”, and “Bring It On Home”, and I find it hard to believe that Gunn didn’t work “Papa Was a Rolling Stong” in there), and that we didn’t get to see much else of the wider off-Earth Marvel universe. That is presumably coming with _Infinity Wars_, _Thor: Ragnarok_ and maybe _Captain Marvel_ but I really like James Gunn’s 'Seventies influenced fluorescent disco space opera vision of galactic empires and wanted to see more alien cantinas, space stations, and ancient Celestial relics. He provides the most fantastical vision of a space opera milieau since _Star Wars_, and I could spend two hours just looking at the production design of his universe. I can’t wait to see what he comes up with on _Vol. 3_, and what new music Quill finds on his Zune. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/80 "2017-05-12T17:51:21Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Loved it. Prior to that scene we never really got an idea of just how powerful the arrow was. There was a lot of cringing around it and plenty of scenes where he stopped it jussst in front of somebody, but watching him kill a hundred or so Ravagers without a care in the world was awesome. In the first movie he used it to kill about thirty or so bad guys who were already pointing their guns at him, that seemed a bit more impressive to me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465.md?page=5)