# Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 - seen it. (Open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 28, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465 "2017-04-28T23:39:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/81 "2017-05-12T17:54:46Z")
I’d forgotten about that! I still think the scene was awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/82 "2017-05-12T17:59:04Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > In the first movie he used it to kill about thirty or so bad guys who were already pointing their guns at him, that seemed a bit more impressive to me. Yeah, but the Sakaarans were basically stormtroopers that stood around slackjawed while the arrow zipped around killing them. In fact, I’m not sure the Sakaarans actually hit anything in the entire movie. When Drax referred to them as “paper people” he wasn’t speaking metaphorically; he literally thought that they were made from papier-mâché because they were so useless. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![JcWoman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jcwoman/32/2889_2.png) [@JcWoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JcWoman)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/83 "2017-05-12T18:04:48Z")
Agree. Also, while the scene where the arrow shoots out all the lights and then kills the guys was pretty show-offy, I still loved it. It was gorgeous and just had to be done. I also liked the smart-assery of breaking the guy’s beer stein before killing him. Heh. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/84 "2017-05-12T18:14:10Z")
Oh, and let’s not forget how cool it was that the “prototype” fin he used in the end made him look much more like the original character. I loved that bit. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/85 "2017-05-13T07:03:38Z")
I just saw it tonight and loved it. The tone seemed to shift away from comedy and to straight action movie towards the end, but even then it had its laughs ("You shouldn’t have killed my mother and broken my Walkman!) Loved the sequence with Groot bringing back the wrong object over and over again and the discussion of why he doesn’t like hats, the Stan Lee cameo, and the return of Howard the Duck. Not sure if it was an intentional Easter egg or a coincidence, but I _swear_ one of the mutineers you see piled altogether asleep was an asari from the Mass Effect games. My one complaint was the nearly 20-minute string of trailers at the beginning - Kingsman, Wonder Woman, The Mummy, The Last Jedi, Thor, Spider-Man, _and_ Valerian was a bit much. (I’ll probably end up seeing all of them aside from Kingsman and Mummy, though.) ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/86 "2017-05-13T17:55:45Z")
Hey, that’s not a fair cop about Star Wars, though. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/87 "2017-05-13T20:54:08Z")
I really enjoyed it. I’m not sure if I liked it more or less than the first. It was a little long, could have been edited down. And Chris Pratt was okay with the emotional stuff, he’s better at being funny and quippy, I wish he had more of a chance to do that in this movie. I was bugged by how Mantis could have told everyone earlier what was going on and didn’t. It seems like that happens in too many movies, where someone has vital information that could be shared and they just don’t soon enough because the movie needs to be longer. Also, why did Ego put the brain tumor in Peter’s mom? It wasn’t like she was going to foil his plan and she needed to be killed. He could have abducted Peter when he was a kid or adult and it’s not like she could have done anything about it, everyone would just crazy talking about her spaceman lover taking her kid. It just seemed like the only movie reason that Ego did that was to make Peter mad so Peter would try to kill him but I thought maybe I’d missed something. But I did think Kurt Russell was great and his planet was gorgeous. > [@Lightray](#): > > Er, not really. Because his de-aging in GotGII was [mostly makeup](http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/05/marvel-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-kurt-russell); they didn’t have to do a lot of CGI, only touch-up stuff. That was impressive, but he also has [an actor son](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0751518/) who looks a hell of a lot like him, I was wondering why they didn’t use him for that scene. ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/88 "2017-05-13T21:04:29Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > Also, why did Ego put the brain tumor in Peter’s mom? It wasn’t like she was going to foil his plan and she needed to be killed. The in-story explanation appeared to be that He had realized (and/or decided) that his attachment to Peter’s mother would result in him abandoning his mission/purpose, until he had been without The Light for so long that he would wither and die. And that the only way to keep that from happening would be to kill her. ---
**Author:** ![Polerius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d78d45/32.png) [@Polerius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polerius)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/89 "2017-05-13T22:17:17Z")
> [@Reluctant\_A](#): > > The in-story explanation appeared to be that He had realized (and/or decided) that his attachment to Peter’s mother would result in him abandoning his mission/purpose, until he had been without The Light for so long that he would wither and die. And that the only way to keep that from happening would be to kill her. Which is pure bullshit, since he could have just killed her outright, why implant her with a tumor so she dies slowly? ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_John_Marcej)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/90 "2017-05-13T22:30:03Z")
> [@Polerius](#): > > Which is pure bullshit, since he could have just killed her outright, why implant her with a tumor so she dies slowly? My guess is that a Celestial who has no real comprehension of mortality, may think that allowing her to die slowly might be showing her “mercy”, so she’ll have a few years more to “live” rather than just dying outright. Also, if he kills her right off, who will raise his son? A being who has no grasp on what relatives are, or grand parents, etc… may believe that the only being who could raise his son is his mother. That’s why Yondu abducted Peter immediately after his mother passed. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/91 "2017-05-13T23:42:35Z")
We watched the first one last weekend then saw 2 today. The first one was pretty entertaining (though not amazing). This one just didn’t work for me. Mildly entertaining, I guess. I remember thinking after the first one that they were going to deal with Peter’s father at some point but that I was hoping they wouldn’t. Then they did a whole movie around it. Bleh. The Yondu arc was okay. Baby Groot was almost minion-ized in this one (a cute character that gets overplayed). It was nice to see Kirk from Gilmore Girls again. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/92 "2017-05-13T23:44:13Z")
As a comedy this movie was great. If you tried to follow the plot, well too many holes to fall down, but the movie had me laughing often and hard. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/93 "2017-05-14T13:02:21Z")
> [@magnusblitz](#): > > It felt weird to have a movie where action heroes talk about being “family” with Vin Diesel in it, yet not have Vin Diesel being the one talking about it. Now you’ve got me imagining Yondu’s funeral set to “See You Again” instead of “Father And Son”. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/94 "2017-05-14T22:13:24Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > And it was too short! > > For their part the Ravagers are not scruffy ragmuffins but professional thieves and mercenaries _who eat people as delicacies_; fuck those guys. They were _mean to baby Groot_. :mad: I liked it. A kid walking out with his parents said, “It was great! It was epic!” His mom said, "Yes, it was a great movie. Kid: “It was great AND epic!” (Mothers…:rolleyes:) My husband said he got an Anna and Elsa vibe from Gamora and Nebula at the end. I started singing, “Do you wanna kill a Thanos?” And by the transitive power, since David Hasselhoff = Yondu and Yondu = Rocket, then David Hasselhoff = Rocket. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/95 "2017-05-14T23:54:09Z")
Yondu Hasselrocket, talk about your illegal genetic experimentation. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/96 "2017-05-15T15:22:42Z")
I took three of my daughters to see it yesterday, and we all loved it. The kids were crazy about Baby Groot. I thought his (its?) joke scenes ran a little too long. I thought the emotional beats were great - Quill and Ego playing catch was a winning scene to me, and I loved Nebula’s and Gamora’s emotional growth. The repeated mockery of Taserface’s name (especially by the Sovereign guy in his death scene) was a riot. The 80’s pop culture references were a little too heavy, though. Seriously, a guy who’s experienced life off Earth for 30 years has no better metaphor for romantic tension than Cheers? He couldn’t think of a better “avatar” to fight giant Ego than Pac-Man? ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/97 "2017-05-15T15:44:14Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > I had absolutely no idea that Stallone and Co were the original Guardians, no idea whatsoever. It didn’t even occur to me that it was a setup for another movie; some other things, yes, but not this part. I still greatly enjoyed the movie, even the parts with Stallone. I dare say I enjoyed it a lot more than you, since I wasn’t thinking of losing more money to Marvel. We get Stakar (Stallone) and Aleta (Michelle Yeoh), the two halves of Starhawk. Martinex and Charlie-27. And Krugarr (the sorcerer supreme of the 30th century in the comics, but clearly still a Dr. Strange style magic user here). And the robot head is supposedly Mainframe, an AI that, in the comics, was designed by Tony Stark. No sign of Vance Astro or Nikki. Cosmo the telepathic dog and Jeff Goldblum’s Grandmaster both make cameos in the credits, though - not in the scenes, but in the dancin’ disco bubbles. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/98 "2017-05-15T15:49:31Z")
An interesting article about the theme of parental abuse in the film, and how the various characters react to it: > **[Of Course I Have Issues: Ending The Cycle Of Abuse In Guardians Of The...](http://geekinitiative.com/course-issues-ending-cycle-abuse-guardians-galaxy-vol-2/)** > > What do a talking raccoon, baby tree, cybernetically enhanced assassin, dancing space captain, and a blue criminal with a metal mohawk have in common? They’re all victims of abuse in Guardians Of T… ---
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> [@cmkeller](#): > > The 80’s pop culture references were a little too heavy, though. Seriously, a guy who’s experienced life off Earth for 30 years has no better metaphor for romantic tension than Cheers? He couldn’t think of a better “avatar” to fight giant Ego than Pac-Man? I always took Peter to be fairly emotionally stunted by being captured and “raised” by a bunch of aliens (who wanted to eat him) at a young age. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465/100 "2017-05-15T16:36:15Z")
I liked it though like with almost all blockbuster films the action scenes could have been trimmed by 15 minutes and that time could have been spent fleshing out the father-son arcs and in particular Yondu’s back story. I also think the sister arc, while quite interesting, could have been pushed to the next film. As a piece of visual spectacle, it was dazzling and I think Hollywood has reached even greater heights in this regard over the last year. Even in the opening scenes, just a drive in the countryside, the level of detail was exceptional and I wondered if there was some new technology being used and apparently this is the first feature to use a new 8K camera by RED: > **[Why 'Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2' is Shooting on RED's 8K WEAPON Camera](https://nofilmschool.com/2016/01/why-guardians-galaxy-vol-2-shooting-red-8k-weapon-camera)** > > In case you missed it, the Guardians of the Galaxy sequel is going to be the first feature to utilize RED's new 8K Vista Vision/Full-frame 35mm camera.  [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-seen-it-open-spoilers/785465.md?page=6)