# Guess the sales of GTA4 and Mario Kart Wii

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**Created:** [April 27, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-sales-of-gta4-and-mario-kart-wii/447115 "2008-04-27T19:18:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![EsotericEnigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e274bd/32.png) [@EsotericEnigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EsotericEnigma)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-sales-of-gta4-and-mario-kart-wii/447115/21 "2008-04-29T05:20:05Z")

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I’d say that Mario Kart Wii will surpass most of the numbers I’ve seen here and approach Super Smash Brothers Brawl numbers. It’s a more accessible game which will appeal to a wider audience beyond that of the more hardcore Smash Brothers fanbase.

I think that GTAIV will do just fine, easily surpassing Mario Kart, but I’m not convinced it can do so well in sales. San Andreas sold like 4 million copies in its first year, and that was on the most popular game system around, probably ever. The PS3 and the 360 _combined_ have only sold about 20 million units, so I’m not convinced that GTAiV can pull down as many sales as GTA:SA did.

Can’t really guess though, I haven’t seen any presale numbers for GTAIV, so I could be way, way off.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-sales-of-gta4-and-mario-kart-wii/447115/22 "2008-05-07T14:35:45Z")

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Rockstar just announced worldwide sales numbers for GTA4:

6 million in the week

3.6 million on day one

Whoa.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-sales-of-gta4-and-mario-kart-wii/447115/23 "2008-05-07T15:10:52Z")

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[Here’s](http://kotaku.com/381199/erotic-psp-game-smoothers-mario-kart-wii-in-sales) an interesting bit of news about sales.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-sales-of-gta4-and-mario-kart-wii/447115/24 "2008-05-07T15:30:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Least Original User Name Ever]  
[Here’s](http://kotaku.com/381199/erotic-psp-game-smoothers-mario-kart-wii-in-sales) an interesting bit of news about sales.  
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That is a very compelling reason to buy a PSP.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-sales-of-gta4-and-mario-kart-wii/447115/25 "2008-05-12T15:36:19Z")

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So, anyone get any final figures? I couldn’t find much for Mario Kart, but I see something like 609000 units of Grand Theft Auto pushed in the first day.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-sales-of-gta4-and-mario-kart-wii/447115/26 "2008-05-12T15:42:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Least Original User Name Ever]  
So, anyone get any final figures? I couldn’t find much for Mario Kart, but I see something like 609000 units of Grand Theft Auto pushed in the first day.  
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That was for the UK. Worldwide numbers are 3.6 million on day one (which I posted a week ago 😛 )

NPD numbers are usually released around the 17th/18th. We’ll know next week.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-sales-of-gta4-and-mario-kart-wii/447115/27 "2008-05-12T15:44:02Z")

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I couldn’t recall if we were using worldwide numbers or US numbers. I also didn’t think about scrolling up to look until now.  
I are dumb.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-sales-of-gta4-and-mario-kart-wii/447115/28 "2008-05-12T17:02:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Least Original User Name Ever]  
I couldn’t recall if we were using worldwide numbers or US numbers.  
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US numbers. And with the world numbers it looks I overestimated the might of GTA just a little bit.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-sales-of-gta4-and-mario-kart-wii/447115/29 "2008-05-12T17:22:59Z")

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Either way, it’s an awful lot of games pushed across.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-sales-of-gta4-and-mario-kart-wii/447115/30 "2008-05-12T19:28:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Justin\_Bailey]  
US numbers. And with the world numbers it looks I overestimated the might of GTA just a little bit.  
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Not a problem there; people were throwing around some insanely crazy numbers on that for a while like the analysts who figured more than 50% of PS3 and XBox 360 owners would buy it _in the first week_ are a good example. I know the game is going to have a huge attach rate but not that huge.

Of course for me all that means is that a year from now it’ll be selling for $5 used since everyone who wants it has it and all those people are trying to sell it back. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-sales-of-gta4-and-mario-kart-wii/447115/31 "2008-05-12T23:22:49Z")

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And mine _still_ doesn’t work.

DAMNIT.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-sales-of-gta4-and-mario-kart-wii/447115/33 "2008-05-13T20:10:04Z")

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I am actually surprised that GTA IV does not have more celebrities involved in it. The others from III - San Andreas had some big voice talent playing the characters. I am not seeing any names I recognize in this one except as DJs (go Iggy!). At least they still have Lazlo.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-sales-of-gta4-and-mario-kart-wii/447115/34 "2008-05-13T20:31:50Z")

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Isn’t Patrice O’Neal in it? I thought I heard his voice on one of the radio shows.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-sales-of-gta4-and-mario-kart-wii/447115/35 "2008-05-13T23:34:41Z")

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Yeah, the whole Opie and Anthony crew is in it. But still, they’re not even as big as Jenna Jameson. Forget Samuel L. Jackson or James Woods.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-sales-of-gta4-and-mario-kart-wii/447115/36 "2008-05-13T23:45:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Death of Rats]  
I am actually surprised that GTA IV does not have more celebrities involved in it. The others from III - San Andreas had some big voice talent playing the characters. I am not seeing any names I recognize in this one except as DJs (go Iggy!). At least they still have Lazlo.  
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Ricky Gervais appears as himself, doing a standup routine in the comedy club.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-sales-of-gta4-and-mario-kart-wii/447115/37 "2008-05-17T00:35:33Z")

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NPD numbers for the month of April are in:

1. GTA IV (Xbox 360) 1.85 million
2. Mario Kart Wii – 1.12 million
3. GTA IV (PS3) – 1.00 million

I gotta say, I’m kind of surprised how many people bought GTA later in the week (the first days of May).

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**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-sales-of-gta4-and-mario-kart-wii/447115/38 "2008-05-17T01:19:44Z")

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So am I. I guess people decided to wait for the weekend.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-sales-of-gta4-and-mario-kart-wii/447115/39 "2008-05-17T13:40:42Z")

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Stimulus!

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