# Guess the words from internal letter sequences

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 3, 2000, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855 "2000-12-03T19:55:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/101 "2000-12-07T09:11:34Z")

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RTR . . . maybe fuRTRader? beeRTRay?

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**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/102 "2000-12-07T09:44:51Z")

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“crossdress” and “crossdresser” are both hyphenated in my Oxford dictionary. “furtrader” and “beertray” are good too, but no dice. Sorry, iampunha. 🙂

I gave bibliophage the yay for “cartridge”, but the word I had in mind was “chartreuse”. “cartridge” works, though, so I took it. Maybe it would have been funner if I’d used the “RTRE” sequence instead, huh?

One more crack at the SDR, and then I’ll spill it.

Try:  
RNST  
ERME  
OKKE

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**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/103 "2000-12-07T09:53:02Z")

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Point to **AudreyK** for eggplant. Updated second-round standings so far:

iampunha 3  
lurkernomore 3  
scratch1300 3  
AudreyK 2  
ren 1  
Mind gamer 1  
Eggs à la Ted 1  
Fretful Porpentine 1

And here are the last 5 in the second round, together with our old friend HIEP.

1. HIEP
2. OGGA
3. OTJ  
18, TIBO
4. UDSM
5. YEG

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**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/104 "2000-12-07T09:56:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by AudreyK \*  
> \*\*
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> Try:  
> RNST  
> ERME  
> OKKE \*\*

turnstile, permeate, bookkeeper

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**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/105 "2000-12-07T09:59:00Z")

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1. tobOGGAn

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**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/106 "2000-12-07T10:00:50Z")

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bibliophage-- Damn!

Yays all around. My words: cornstarch, watermelon (ferment works too), and bookkeeper.

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**Author:** ![Meleemancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a183cd/32.png) [@Meleemancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meleemancer)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/107 "2000-12-07T10:14:04Z")

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1. an **tibo** dy
2. e **yeg** lasses

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**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/108 "2000-12-07T10:37:01Z")

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Two points for Mind gamer and one for AudreyK. That makes a five-way tie for first place in the second round.

There remains

1. HIEP
2. OTJ
3. UDSM

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**Author:** ![Eggs\_a\_la\_Ted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@Eggs\_a\_la\_Ted](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eggs_a_la_Ted)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/109 "2000-12-07T11:06:19Z")

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1. OTJ

bo **otj** ack

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**Author:** ![Eggs\_a\_la\_Ted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@Eggs\_a\_la\_Ted](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eggs_a_la_Ted)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/110 "2000-12-07T11:08:50Z")

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Hey, a swedish word 🙂

1. UDSM

omb **udsm** an.

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**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/111 "2000-12-07T12:00:44Z")

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Two more points to Eggs à la Ted. Unbelievable. Am I doing the math wrong, or do we have a six-way tie?

iampunha 3  
lurkernomore 3  
scratch1300 3  
AudreyK 3  
Mind gamer 3  
Eggs à la Ted 3  
Fretful Porpentine 1  
ren 1

So we’re back to just HIEP.

ILFI-sailfish or tailfin. Thank God. The inside of my skull has finally stopped itching. Now I see that **Mind gamer** got tailfin hours ago. How did I miss that?

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**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/112 "2000-12-07T12:07:46Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by bibliophage \*  
> \*\*So we’re back to just HIEP. \*\*

It’s 2am, and I’m up thinking about HIEP. My brain is not letting me sleep.

Darn it, I keep thinking about a Vietnamese classmate named Hiep!

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**Author:** ![scratch1300](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@scratch1300](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scratch1300)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/113 "2000-12-07T17:14:56Z")

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I had **KULE** and **RSAP**.

**bibliophage** got the first – _uKULEle_. Most people seem to suppose it’s spelled _ukelele_, but it’s not. Yeah, I thought, If **Ike** sees it, no contest.

That leaves **RSAP** , which, if no one gets, I’ll post the answer to, oh, about three or four o’clock this afternoon (Eastern time).

Hint: it’s not usually pronounced the way it’s spelled.

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**Author:** ![Eggs\_a\_la\_Ted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@Eggs\_a\_la\_Ted](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eggs_a_la_Ted)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/114 "2000-12-07T17:51:44Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by bibliophage \*  
> **So we’re back to just HIEP.**

Got it! It’s arc **hiep** iscopal.

_But…_ I found it when I was looking up archi **e** pelago :o. So I win because I can’t spell.

Doesn’t seem fair, does it? 😃

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**Author:** ![panamajack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/47e85d/32.png) [@panamajack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panamajack)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/115 "2000-12-07T18:34:14Z")

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I’ve gone back through the thread to see if there’s any words hanging around waiting to be answered. I’ve assumed that if an answer hasn’t been rejected, it’s probably okay. Looks like it’s gone well so far, there’s just a few out there :  
I apologize if I miss any answers –

**AudreyK** has : SDR

**scratch1300** has : RSAP (it’s not Versaphone, is it?)

**ren** has : XACH

**iampunha** has : WFL, which I’m claiming for snoWFLake.

If **Eggs a la Ted** is confirmed correct, then **bibliophage** ’s are all solved (I’m just glad it wasn’t smoochiepie)

I’ll post the words I was thinking of for UTM, URYT, and HROD in my next post.

panama jack

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**Author:** ![Eggs\_a\_la\_Ted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@Eggs\_a\_la\_Ted](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eggs_a_la_Ted)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/116 "2000-12-07T19:00:35Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by panamajack \*  
> **I’ll post the words I was thinking of for UTM, URYT, and HROD in my next post.**

**UTM** ost. Easy one.

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**Author:** ![panamajack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/47e85d/32.png) [@panamajack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panamajack)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/117 "2000-12-07T19:11:02Z")

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Typo in my last post – I meant CTM, not UTM. But I’ll put up UTM as one to solve.

Anyway, the ones I was thinking of, which seem to me to be the most recognizable terms :

HROD - answers were pushrod, ashrod, chroda. I was thinking of hermaphrodite.

CTM - answers were ejectment (which was one that I knew of) factman, factmill. I also thought of indictment.

URYT - jury-tampering and purytylene were answered, as well as eurytypic (is this an alternate spelling of eurytopic?), which is closest to what I had in mind – eurythmics.

I mentioned a while back another one for YNCR (bibliophage got my first guess, syncretic), and that is idioscyncrasy.

New ones from me :

UTM (probably fairly easy, since it was a typo)  
these are all more obscure than my previous words.  
TISIM  
SQUAMP  
LIPY  
RMIF  
SIEQ  
OKEF

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**Author:** ![Eggs\_a\_la\_Ted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c68b51/32.png) [@Eggs\_a\_la\_Ted](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eggs_a_la_Ted)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/118 "2000-12-07T19:16:30Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by panamajack \*  
> **Typo in my last post – I meant CTM, not UTM.**

Figures.

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**Author:** ![panamajack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/47e85d/32.png) [@panamajack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panamajack)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/119 "2000-12-07T19:32:45Z")

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UTM - so easy, it was answered before I asked it.

The other sequences I’ve given occur in the middle of the words I’m thinking of, though there is an alternate answer for one that puts it on the end of a word.

As a help for others, there’s a number of word lists (try [the links here](http://wordlist.sourceforge.net/) and the various lists at the [nat’l puzzlers’ league](http://www.puzzlers.org/secure/wordlists/dictinfo.html)) that can be downloaded and then searched using a basic word processor. That’s how I checked for the (relative) uniqueness of my sequences. Of course it’s unfair to use these to get the answer, but I doubt anyone’s doing that.

Please note that those word lists sometimes remove hyphens in words, so are not necessarily stand-alone references for this.

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**Author:** ![ren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@ren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ren)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2000, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-the-words-from-internal-letter-sequences/43855/120 "2000-12-07T21:20:21Z")

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> [@](#):
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> ILFI-sailfish or tailfin. Thank God. The inside of my skull has finally stopped itching. Now I see that Mind gamer got tailfin hours ago. How did I miss that?

I can’t find tailfin in any of my dictionaries. IS it a word?

sailfish is good. So is the (more obscure?) devilfish. Maybe there’s a few other fish too!

Niobium was what I had in mind, as well. Some funky letters going on in some o’ them element names.

Wish I’d had more time to play round two…this is really addictive!

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