# Guess what 60 Minutes decided to do last night? (Answer: Benghazi) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2013, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429 "2013-10-28T09:40:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/201 "2013-11-03T08:05:26Z")
Witnesses have been under tremendous pressure not to talk, for starters, something else which CNN reminded us of. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/202 "2013-11-03T08:14:08Z")
Just because you’re not getting the answers you want doesn’t mean there’s a cover-up. Any response to the rest of my post; is your silence on events during the Bush administration evidence of your own partisanship? ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/203 "2013-11-03T08:17:03Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Compare Benghazi to the 9/11 investigation. OK. For starters, the Bush Administration fought against even having an investigation for over a year. Then Bush appointed Henry Kissinger to head it, which would be like Obama appointing Al Sharpton. After public ridicule forced Kissinger to decline, the hearings finally got started nearly 18 months after the attack, and the administration witnesses, like Condoleezza Rice, lied their asses off. Is that the comparison you had in mind? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/204 "2013-11-03T08:38:21Z")
I remember Tonkin Bay, the phantom North Vietnamese torpedo boats that attacked us. Bought it hook, line and sinker, totally believed it, even as suspicious as I was with Johnson being such liberal wussy peacenik. He was standing up for America! Don’t recall anybody in my vicinity saying “WTF? Why the fuck would they do that, pick a fight with somebody who \*will \*kick their ass? When they are already winning, who needs?” What a long strange trip its been. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/205 "2013-11-03T13:28:29Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Partisans are always going to be partisans. That you can’t control. What you can control is how seriously allegations are taken. Saying things that aren’t true and being non-transparent and failing to cooperate with investigations tends to make people think you’re doing a cover up. You have not even come close to proving that Susan Rice was deliberately telling falsehoods. Not only that, but you have pointedly ignored the fact that during the exact same statements you decry, Rice qualified them with things like “the investigation was ongoing, this information may change, we shouldn’t jump to conclusions”, etc. The “parts of the administration we’re legitimately uncertain at that point” explanation is far, far more reasonable than “they deliberately lied (while adding qualifiers like Rice did)”. > [@](#): > > Compare Benghazi to the 9/11 investigation. The Bush administration turned over what was asked, even some pretty damning stuff, like the “Osama determined to attack US” memo, and then basically just said, “Whatchoo going to do about it?” I’ll take belligerent defiance over cowardly coverups any day. How have they failed to cooperate? Where is the coverup? There’s nothing there. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/206 "2013-11-03T13:29:31Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Witnesses have been under tremendous pressure not to talk, for starters, something else which CNN reminded us of. Cite? And is this all you got? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/207 "2013-11-03T13:54:19Z")
Boy, conservatives have gotten really fucking stupid about military and defensive force practices in the real world. ---
**Author:** ![sylmar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@sylmar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylmar)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/208 "2013-11-03T15:06:54Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Boy, conservatives have gotten really fucking stupid about military and defensive force practices in the real world. Oh yeah? What about _Umbrellagate_? Pretty slick how you guys just swept that one under the carpet! Any day now the details will come out, showing explicitly that Obama had full knowledge of and was _directly_ responsible for that one. The only thing preventing the lid from being blown off is everyone’s under tremendous pressure not to talk. ☹ But you just wait… ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/209 "2013-11-03T16:09:20Z")
> [@sylmar](#): > > Oh yeah? What about _Umbrellagate_? Pretty slick how you guys just swept that one under the carpet! Umbrellagate was just a preemptive false flag operation to distract the sheeple from sissyMarineHatGate. Look beneath the surface here people! ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/210 "2013-11-03T16:11:13Z")
Of course he was responsible. As the Messiah he can control the weather. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/211 "2013-11-03T16:18:11Z")
Then where the fuck is the smiting? He can wither a fig tree, but not Tom Cruz? ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/212 "2013-11-03T16:22:26Z")
I’d rather he wither Ted Cruz. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/213 "2013-11-03T16:26:24Z")
Well, heck, I’d rather have the gurgling melty thing like what happened to the Nazis in that documentary. That there is some serious, down-home smiting! ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/214 "2013-11-03T17:24:14Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Witnesses have been under tremendous pressure not to talk, for starters, something else which CNN reminded us of. Okay, you need a citation for this, but if this was the case, do you really think it’s that unreasonable or sinister? Obviously, it’s better if our enemies think we don’t know it was them behind any given attack where they try to conceal their involvement, no? It’s better to not play our hand, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/215 "2013-11-03T17:29:26Z")
Well, might be better not to _show_ our hand, true, but we haven’t much choice about playing it. It was dealt, and folding isn’t an option. (I’m guessing brainfart, here.) ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2013, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/216 "2013-11-04T07:49:58Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > How have they failed to cooperate? Where is the coverup? There’s nothing there. How about the fact that no one who was actually at the compound has been allowed to talk to Congress? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2013, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/217 "2013-11-04T07:51:08Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Okay, you need a citation for this, but if this was the case, do you really think it’s that unreasonable or sinister? Obviously, it’s better if our enemies think we don’t know it was them behind any given attack where they try to conceal their involvement, no? It’s better to not play our hand, isn’t it? Cite is the 60 minutes video, where they say, “witnesses have been under pressure not to talk”. Now obviously there could be good reasons for keeping witnesses from talking to 60 Minutes, but there’s no excuse for keeping them from talking to Congress. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2013, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/218 "2013-11-04T10:19:27Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Cite is the 60 minutes video, where they say, “witnesses have been under pressure not to talk”. What’s their source? Does this just mean “witnesses haven’t talked to Congress, so Congress is assuming the President is influencing them”? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2013, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/219 "2013-11-04T10:22:28Z")
It looks like CNN and others [were wrong](http://mediamatters.org/research/2013/11/03/cnn-forgets-benghazi-survivors-have-testified-b/196728)- Benghazi survivors have already talked to Congress, and more meetings are planned. I think the first comment on that story sums it up: ‘CNN’s headline should have been “Benghazi survivors have yet to testify in a manner that satisfies the GOP witch hunters.”’ ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2013, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/220 "2013-11-04T10:48:16Z")
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