# Guess what 60 Minutes decided to do last night? (Answer: Benghazi)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2013, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429 "2013-10-28T09:40:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/341 "2013-11-10T14:01:34Z")

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> [@Randolph](#):
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> While an evolution like **Qin** ’s is more impressive, being able to stick around, chagrined, and face the music with humor does speak a lot for you.

I think people are oddly overvaluing this avoidance behavior. I think some kind of acknowledgement of wrongness would be more impressive than just being an ass in a different way.

It might lead to some kind of learning and thence to not being constantly wrong.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/342 "2013-11-10T14:32:29Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> I think people are oddly overvaluing this avoidance behavior. I think some kind of acknowledgement of wrongness would be more impressive than just being an ass in a different way.
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> It might lead to some kind of learning and thence to not being constantly wrong.

I don’t know. I guess I’d give **Adaher** a bit of a pass here. His post humorously harkens back to his being wrong about the presidential election and then disappearing for a few months, so it is an acknowledgment of wrongness. Its humor doesn’t negate it, at least in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/343 "2013-11-10T15:54:19Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Mighty Props To Adaher!! Ha-ha-ha!!!

Yeah! Props to Adaher for polluting the board with his fabricated controversy threads and his idiotic conservative takes on current events. Great Debates has never been more worthwhile!

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/344 "2013-11-10T16:20:18Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> I don’t know. I guess I’d give **Adaher** a bit of a pass here. His post humorously harkens back to his being wrong about the presidential election and then disappearing for a few months, so it is an acknowledgment of wrongness. Its humor doesn’t negate it, at least in my opinion.

Maybe the first time. Repeating the joke seems like an acknowledgement that he wants to hang around without recognizing that he is wrong.

I mean, it’s fine with me if he doesn’t want to change. His stupidity is fucking hilarious. I just wouldn’t be patting him on the back for it myself

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/345 "2013-11-11T04:37:22Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Hoo boy. Well, um, I have someplace I urgently need to be. Bye!!

OK, this was good.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/346 "2013-11-12T03:17:04Z")

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Indeed.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/347 "2013-11-12T03:47:43Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> When I first heard the teaser for this on 60 Minutes, I thought “Jesus Christ - this again?”
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> Then I saw it was Lara Logan, and I thought, “Okay, whatever you say.”. I’d watch Lara Logan read from the Brooklyn White Pages for half an hour.
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> I ended up missing it anyway.

New porn classic: _Lara does Benghazi!_

Come on, you were thinking it too.

All right, but you **should** have been!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/348 "2013-11-12T04:16:41Z")

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[http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://emotibot.net/pix/6052.png&imgrefurl=http://emotibot.net/?i%3D6052&h=332&w=450&sz=253&tbnid=QI8-F6nHUM2GkM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=122&zoom=1&usg=\_\_2VHJlwCfP3u2RzTkvtL23Dn0Fqk=&docid=MP-yDODW8TmSHM&sa=X&ei=V6uBUoCKMKuQyQHwxoDIDQ&ved=0CDgQ9QEwAg](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://emotibot.net/pix/6052.png&imgrefurl=http://emotibot.net/?i%3D6052&h=332&w=450&sz=253&tbnid=QI8-F6nHUM2GkM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=122&zoom=1&usg=__2VHJlwCfP3u2RzTkvtL23Dn0Fqk=&docid=MP-yDODW8TmSHM&sa=X&ei=V6uBUoCKMKuQyQHwxoDIDQ&ved=0CDgQ9QEwAg)

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/349 "2013-11-12T10:56:01Z")

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Not to poop on anyone’s Lara Logan parade, she sure is pretty, but I feel sympathetic to her in a weird kid-gloves kind of way. She was gang raped while covering the uprising in Egypt.  
I realize she has healed, and is back in front of the cameras, but …I don’t know.  
It’s not a stigma, and maybe it’s my hangup, but I just feel much sympathy for her.  
Sorry for the interruption, don’t mind me…

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/350 "2013-11-12T14:59:07Z")

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Every public figure is at least two people: the public figure and the human being. This is not a condition generally forced upon the unwilling, but one that is strived for and struggled for. No doubt easier if you are smoking hot, I have no way of knowing.

I have no doubt that if she should rescind her restraining order, I would offer what human support and sympathy she might wish. Nonetheless, I would counsel that human being that her public persona offers aid and sympathy for the Forces of Darkness, and she should find something better to do.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/351 "2013-11-12T17:53:25Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> This right here is why I like Adaher better than Bricker.

That’s a pretty low hurdle for me. I also like riding a bicycle without a seat more than I like Bricker.

Good show, adaher. Rather than backtrack and try desperately for ways to parse words that make it seem like you’re still right, you eat your crow with a sense of humor.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/352 "2013-11-12T18:01:17Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Good show, adaher. Rather than backtrack and try desperately for ways to parse words that make it seem like you’re still right, you eat your crow with a sense of humor.

He’s not eating crow- just running away. He’ll be pushing the same bullshit next week if not this afternoon.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/353 "2013-11-12T18:42:36Z")

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As long as he’s willing to own up [del]if[/del] when he turns out to be wrong, good for him.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/354 "2013-11-12T23:35:56Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> As long as he’s willing to own up [del]if[/del] when he turns out to be wrong, good for him.

Yeah, that’s more than most do, righty or lefty.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/355 "2013-11-12T23:41:06Z")

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BTW, [turns out Lara Logan’s husband was a psyops contractor in Iraq.](http://crooksandliars.com/diane-sweet/lara-logans-spouse-paid-propagandist)

> [@](#):
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> "What most people don’t know, however, is the nature of Burkett’s work in Iraq. He was an employee of the Lincoln Group, a now-shuttered “strategic communications and public relations firm” hired by the Department of Defense in 2005 to plant positive stories written by American soldiers in Baghdad newspapers during the Iraq War.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/356 "2013-11-13T00:04:37Z")

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And even to this day, they aren’t one _bit_ grateful! Some people…

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/357 "2013-11-14T17:18:18Z")

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Just to prove there’s no horse too dead to beat when **adaher** is involved, McClatchy News Service is now pointing out even more substantive problems with the 60 Minutes report: [Link.](http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/11/13/208446/questions-about-60-minutes-benghazi.html)

The other issues raised include:

> [@](#):
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> The report repeatedly referred to al Qaida as solely responsible for the attack on the compound and made no mention of Ansar al Shariah . . . Additionally, al Qaida’s role, if any, in the attack has not been determined, and Logan’s narration offered no source for her repeated assertion that it had been. . . .
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> Another questionable assertion in the “60 Minutes” report was Logan’s unsourced reference to the Benghazi Medical Center as being “under the control of al Qaida terrorists,” an assertion that McClatchy correspondents on the ground at the time and subsequent reporting in Benghazi indicates is untrue. . . .
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> The piece closed with a picture of a document outlining Stevens’ schedule for Sept. 12, “a day (Stevens) did not live to see.” According to the piece, “When a member of our team went to the U.S. compound earlier this month, he found remnants of the Americans’ final frantic moments still scattered on the ground.”
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> But the compound owner, Jamal el Bishari, told McClatchy on Wednesday that he began clearing debris in April from the compound’s four buildings and is still renovating the site. McClatchy visited the site in June and saw a pile of debris sitting outside the compound walls, but no documents were discernible among the broken concrete, clothing, furniture and soot.

It’s a fairly lengthy article, but there seem to be more pretty substantive embellishments in the 60 Minutes piece just coming to light.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/358 "2013-11-14T18:05:44Z")

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Jesus Marimba! I already thought it was pretty bad, but apparently I set my sights _waaay_ too low!

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/359 "2013-11-14T18:18:59Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> This right here is why I like Adaher better than Bricker.

Really? I’ve seen **Bricker** admit to being wrong much more often than **adaher**. And better yet, **Bricker** is much less likely in general to argue from demonstrable false evidence.

I mean, if you’re sole criteria is “Which poster is easier to humiliate in a debate,” sure, **adaher** is your man, but that’s a pretty soft standard.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/360 "2013-11-14T18:27:17Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> [In other news:](http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/11/simon-schuster-pulling-benghazi-book-177108.html)
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> First time I’ve ever heard of a recall on a book.

> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> As I observed when it came out, “Q.R. Markham”;s spy thriller **assassin of Secrets** (which was plagiarized, line by line, from other spy novels) was pulled from bookstores after the charges of plagiarism were made public.
> 
> [http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052970204554204577026450743281494](http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052970204554204577026450743281494)
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> Oddly, though, I see you can once again buy it from places like Amazon online. Although the reviewers warn you about the plagiarism and give it the lowest rating.

[Penn & Teller’s How To Play With Your Food](http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1992-12-11/news/9212110541_1_penn-teller-magicians-penn-packet) recalled as hazardous to your health.

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