# Guess what 60 Minutes decided to do last night? (Answer: Benghazi)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2013, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429 "2013-10-28T09:40:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/361 "2013-11-14T18:29:13Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Jesus Marimba! I already thought it was pretty bad, but apparently I set my sights _waaay_ too low!

Yeah, I’m starting to think Lara Logan will need to begin polishing her resume.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/362 "2013-11-14T18:29:16Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> And better yet, **Bricker** is much less likely in general to argue from demonstrable false evidence.

And much more likely to argue from evidence, period. You might disagree with his interpretation of the evidence, but he’ll at least bring something to the table other than a bare assertion with nothing to back it up.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/363 "2013-11-14T18:32:25Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Really? I’ve seen **Bricker** admit to being wrong much more often than **adaher**. And better yet, **Bricker** is much less likely in general to argue from demonstrable false evidence.
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> I mean, if you’re sole criteria is “Which poster is easier to humiliate in a debate,” sure, **adaher** is your man, but that’s a pretty soft standard.

This to the one hundredth power. **Bricker** isn’t a dumbfuck.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/364 "2013-11-14T18:39:00Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Yeah, I’m starting to think Lara Logan will need to begin polishing her resume.

If CBS was interested in firing her, they wouldn’t have put her on TV to deliver her minimally acceptable apology.

She’s not going anywhere.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/365 "2013-11-14T18:41:47Z")

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Unless it’s to be the latest Fox anchorbarbie. She’s already established all the relevant credentials.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/366 "2013-11-14T18:43:43Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> [Penn & Teller’s How To Play With Your Food](http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1992-12-11/news/9212110541_1_penn-teller-magicians-penn-packet) recalled as hazardous to your health.

Oh wow, I had that book (with the unopenable sugar packet) and had no idea it had ever been recalled.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/367 "2013-11-14T18:50:42Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> Oh wow, I had that book (with the unopenable sugar packet) and had no idea it had ever been recalled.

It’s a book full of the writings of Penn and Teller, and it’s the _fake sugar_ that’s the irritant?

(Ba-da-bomp!)  
actually, I love P&T. And I’ve played a lot with cobalt chloride (the Weather Indicator chemical). But putting it in a sugar packet is asking for trouble.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/368 "2013-11-14T18:51:13Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> If CBS was interested in firing her, they wouldn’t have put her on TV to deliver her minimally acceptable apology.
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> She’s not going anywhere.

Too early to say. Sometimes some single fact in a story leads people to start scrutinizing every aspect of it, and more and more of it starts unravelling, as may be happening here. I’m sure there is some critical mass that, if the revelations get there, would blow up her CBS career. They had no intention of firing Dan Rather either, until they did.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/369 "2013-11-14T20:15:02Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> As long as he’s willing to own up [del]if[/del] when he turns out to be wrong, good for him.

As a general principle, i think this is correct. At the same time, though, how many times does a person have to keep getting shit wrong for exactly the same reasons before their admissions of error become essentially pointless?

If you say that black is white, and someone provides evidence that it’s not, and you apologize, then that’s a sign of willingness to grow. But if, after apologizing, you come back a week later and again start to argue that black is white, your apology looks a little hollow. And **adaher** is on about the twentieth iteration of this cycle.

> [@Miller](#):
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> Really? I’ve seen **Bricker** admit to being wrong much more often than **adaher**. And better yet, **Bricker** is much less likely in general to argue from demonstrable false evidence.
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> I mean, if you’re sole criteria is “Which poster is easier to humiliate in a debate,” sure, **adaher** is your man, but that’s a pretty soft standard.

Completely agree.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/370 "2013-11-14T22:32:19Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> If CBS was interested in firing her, they wouldn’t have put her on TV to deliver her minimally acceptable apology.
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> She’s not going anywhere.

It seems quite clear that CBS simply doesn’t have a handle on all the things that were wrong with that report… if the McClatchy report is correct, of course.

So CBS made her apologize after the Davies character turned out to be totally unreliable. If further journalistic errors come to light, I don’t think her apology about the first error excuses her from repercussions on potentially several other embellishments or misrepresentations.

But we shall see…

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/371 "2013-11-14T23:11:00Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> As long as he’s willing to own up [del]if[/del] when he turns out to be wrong, good for him.

Let me know if that ever happens.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/372 "2013-11-15T12:32:14Z")

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> [@Finagle](#):
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> Well, that was painful to watch; apparently they spent a year on that report, so it couldn’t have been pleasant to find out your main witness is less than reliable.

In all honesty, if you’ve spent a whole year on an investigation and still haven’t considered the possibility that your star source might just be full of shit, and done some checking on that end just out of due diligence… maybe investigative journalism isn’t for you. Maybe you’d make a better recruit for Scientology, or perhaps some work as a carnie’s mark would suit your particular talents ? If all else fails, off-main Vegas welcomes you with open arms ! 😛

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/373 "2013-11-15T15:18:34Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Really? I’ve seen **Bricker** admit to being wrong much more often than **adaher**. And better yet, **Bricker** is much less likely in general to argue from demonstrable false evidence.
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> I mean, if you’re sole criteria is “Which poster is easier to humiliate in a debate,” sure, **adaher** is your man, but that’s a pretty soft standard.

I agree. I disagree with Bricker on several issues but on almost every issue (other than voter ID), he seems rational and willing to let the facts take him where they will.

> [@Kobal2](#):
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> In all honesty, if you’ve spent a whole year on an investigation and still haven’t considered the possibility that your star source might just be full of shit, and done some checking on that end just out of due diligence… maybe investigative journalism isn’t for you. Maybe you’d make a better recruit for Scientology, or perhaps some work as a carnie’s mark would suit your particular talents ? If all else fails, off-main Vegas welcomes you with open arms ! 😛

> **[Yellow journalism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism)**
>
> In journalism, yellow journalism and the yellow press are American newspapers that use eye-catching headlines and sensationalized exaggerations for increased sales. This term is chiefly used in American English, whereas in the United Kingdom, the similar term tabloid journalism is more common. Other languages, e.g. Russian (жёлтая пресса zhyoltaya pressa), sometimes have terms derived from the American term. Yellow journalism emerged in the intense battle for readers by two newspapers in Ne...

News as entertainment has been a horrible development in media. Worse than reality TV shows IMHO. Noone ever went to war because Sanjaya got voted off the island and married Chloe Kardashian.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/374 "2013-11-15T15:26:18Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> … Noone ever went to war because Sanjaya got voted off the island and married Chloe Kardashian.

That’s a better reason for war than some I’ve heard. 😛

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/375 "2013-11-16T02:49:37Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> If all else fails, off-main Vegas welcomes you with open arms ! 😛

She’ll be polishing more than her resume.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/376 "2013-11-16T05:39:12Z")

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Shit, she will be Republican martyr of the year. Rest assured, a place will be found for her. Rupert Mordor would be glad to have her under him.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/377 "2013-11-16T08:18:34Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Really? I’ve seen **Bricker** admit to being wrong much more often than **adaher**. And better yet, **Bricker** is much less likely in general to argue from demonstrable false evidence.
> 
> I mean, if you’re sole criteria is “Which poster is easier to humiliate in a debate,” sure, **adaher** is your man, but that’s a pretty soft standard.

The reason I prefer Adaher, however little, is that Bricker knows he’s wrong and disingenuously pretends he doesn’t.

Adaher is actually too dumb to know any better. I think that cuts him slightly more slack.

And humiliating Bricker is easy, look at the voter ID threads, for instance.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/378 "2013-11-16T16:07:25Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> The reason I prefer Adaher, however little, is that Bricker knows he’s wrong and disingenuously pretends he doesn’t.
> 
> Adaher is actually too dumb to know any better. I think that cuts him slightly more slack.
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> And humiliating Bricker is easy, look at the voter ID threads, for instance.

You have a very odd way of defining “he doesn’t agree with me and I can’t get him to see things my way.”

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/379 "2013-11-16T16:58:52Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> You have a very odd way of defining “he doesn’t agree with me and I can’t get him to see things my way.”

You have a very odd way of describing, “he knows that in-person voter fraud is virtually non existent and yet supports laws that make it harder for thousands of times as many people to vote, when those people happen to be more likely to vote for Democrats.”

But then, you and reality don’t always see eye-to-eye, do you?

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/380 "2013-11-16T19:41:34Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> You have a very odd way of defining “he doesn’t agree with me and I can’t get him to see things my way.”

If you read the voter ID thread and believe that this accurately represents reality, then you’re either thick as a brick or just as dishonest and shitheaded as he is.

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