# Guess what 60 Minutes decided to do last night? (Answer: Benghazi) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2013, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429 "2013-10-28T09:40:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/101 "2013-10-28T17:49:18Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > [http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50157981n](http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50157981n) > > I can’t imagine this will go over well with some here. The Benghazi story is not going to cost Democrats votes in the midterms, nor HRC in 2016 (if she runs). Deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/102 "2013-10-28T17:50:52Z")
After Larry and Ted get beat up, Terr goes to the Police for assistance, and they tell him that he’s SOL because the Town Council has eliminated all overtime for the police, yanno, to keep taxes down. So Terr gets beat up, and the Police Department Media Rep says that it may have been a mugging, the Town Council decides that misstatement is the single most important aspect of the situation, and Terr agrees. One must have perspective, musn’t one? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/103 "2013-10-28T17:55:36Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > How do you deal with what happened in Benghazi if the Administration lies about what happened in Benghazi? You tell us. A number of us have asked why the administration would lie, and pointed out that your “political cover” theory doesn’t make sense. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/104 "2013-10-28T18:10:06Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > The Benghazi story is not going to cost Democrats votes in the midterms, nor HRC in 2016 (if she runs). > > Deal with it. The cognitive dissonance in the right-wing echo chamber over this issue is astonishingly high. Even for them. It’s like Birth Certificate 2.0, except there is an actual tragedy associated with this. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/105 "2013-10-28T18:22:13Z")
I think it just shows how terrified they would be of a President Hillary that they have started the campaign against her 3 years out. I’m just licking my chops in anticipation of a Hillary-Cruz matchup. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/106 "2013-10-28T18:25:11Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > The cognitive dissonance in the right-wing echo chamber over this issue is astonishingly high. Even for them. It’s like Birth Certificate 2.0, except there is an actual tragedy associated with this. When I first heard the teaser for this on 60 Minutes, I thought “Jesus Christ - this again?” Then I saw it was Lara Logan, and I thought, “Okay, whatever you say.”. I’d watch Lara Logan read from the Brooklyn White Pages for half an hour. I ended up missing it anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/107 "2013-10-28T18:27:09Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > You tell us. A number of us have asked why the administration would lie, and pointed out that your “political cover” theory doesn’t make sense. To you. Blinders etc. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/108 "2013-10-28T18:33:55Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > To you. Blinders etc. Our theory requires fewer assumptions, and makes a lot more sense. Assuming a few small mistakes were made (in getting the information out) seems a lot more reasonable and plausible then assuming lies and malice. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/109 "2013-10-28T18:35:17Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > The Benghazi story is not going to cost Democrats votes in the midterms, nor HRC in 2016 (if she runs). > > Deal with it. IMHO this is useful in the sense that many moderates and independents will \*\*continue \*\*to see this as yet another sign of the extreme positions the Tea Party and many conservatives are taking. Positions that actually interfere with the workings of the government, and for very shaky reasons. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/110 "2013-10-28T18:37:41Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > To you. Blinders etc. Better than a sleep mask. Or those Republican Idiocy Sensitive Sunglasses. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/111 "2013-10-28T18:59:46Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > How do you deal with what happened in Benghazi . . . No one needs to. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/112 "2013-10-28T19:01:39Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I think it just shows how terrified they would be of a President Hillary that they have started the campaign against her 3 years out. They started that campaign when she was First Lady. There was a whole cottage industry of anti-Hillary books (mostly published by Regnery). ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/113 "2013-10-28T19:10:22Z")
Is that little fuckhead \*\*adaher \*\*going to come back to this thread or is he just planning to continue letting Terr flop around on the deck in his place? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/114 "2013-10-28T20:12:12Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > Sure. > > Green Beret Commander, Lieutenant Colonel Andy Wood, was one of the top American security officials in Libya. Based in Tripoli, he met with Amb. Stevens every day. > > The last time he went to Benghazi was in June, just three months before the attack. While he was there, al Qaeda tried to assassinate the British ambassador. Wood says, to him, it came as no surprise because al Qaeda – using a familiar tactic – had stated their intent in an online posting, saying they would attack the Red Cross, the British and then the Americans in Benghazi. > > Lara Logan: And you watched as they– > > Andy Wood: As they did each one of those. > > Lara Logan: --attacked the Red Cross and the British mission. And the only ones left– > > Andy Wood: Were us. They made good on two out of the three promises. It was a matter of time till they captured the third one. > > Lara Logan: And Washington was aware of that? > > Andy Wood: They knew we monitored it. We included that in our reports to both State Department and DOD. Sounds to me like there was a Colonel in charge of security who knew the target and the time and had some resources, but not as much as he would have liked and is now not taking responsibility for not succeeding with what resources Congress saw fit to give him, which were less than the Obama Administration requested. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/115 "2013-10-28T20:22:26Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Ever consider the possibility that you don’t run to a microphone and tell everybody everything you know as soon as you know it? Or that maybe it’s prudent to let the bad guys not know that you’re on to them? Or that there were agents in the field still gathering information and letting on what you know might jeopardize their missions and/or the agents themselves? Is it that fucking important to shout “terrorism” as soon as humanly possible? Whatever for? Ah, so saying they DID know what it was was a slick disinformation campaign against Al Qaeda. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/116 "2013-10-28T20:40:45Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Ah, so saying they DID know what it was was a slick disinformation campaign against Al Qaeda. Got it. I don’t think that’s the most likely explanation, but it’s far more likely and plausible than your “ooh they lied because ??? PROFIT” hypothesis. My explanation (in post #90) fits all the facts and requires fewer assumptions (as well as the more reasonable and plausible “rushed mistakes and miscommunications along with a plea for caution” explanation as opposed to the ludicrous “evil liars”). ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/117 "2013-10-28T22:20:34Z")
They lied, because the spontaneous explanation holds them blameless, at a time when they really needed to be held blameless. A planned attack, even if it had been handled without loss of life, raises questions about whether they should have known. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/118 "2013-10-28T22:22:49Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > To you. Blinders etc. … or anyone else. Again, how does the administration look better if it allows a diplomatic facility to be destroyed by an angry mob? That’s _worse_ than letting it be destroyed by a carefully planned terrorist attack. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/119 "2013-10-28T22:25:52Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > … or anyone else. Again, how does the administration look better if it allows a diplomatic facility to be destroyed by an angry mob? That’s _worse_ than letting it be destroyed by a carefully planned terrorist attack. It’s impossible to know in advance of a spontaneous angry mob. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429/120 "2013-10-28T22:26:33Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > … or anyone else. Again, how does the administration look better if it allows a diplomatic facility to be destroyed by an angry mob? That’s _worse_ than letting it be destroyed by a carefully planned terrorist attack. It’s perfectly clear, as long as you start with the conclusion that Obama is an evil liar and work backwards from there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-60-minutes-decided-to-do-last-night-answer-benghazi/672429.md?page=7)