# Guess what I saw - clue "Your friendly neighborhood..." SPIDERMAN! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 2, 2002, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784 "2002-05-02T03:00:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/81 "2002-05-07T03:23:35Z")
I saw it last night. THE BAD: -I didn’t like the Green Goblin’s costume. Especially when he was soliloquizing on evil, he looked totally Power Rangers. I understand that maybe it was true to the comic, but if I’d been Osbourne, I woulda felt like an idiot wearing that mask and talking to people. -The special effects were occasionally too CGI for my tastes. I prefer effects where you don’t notice the computers. -While I understand now Parker’s reluctance to love MJ, I didn’t really get in in the final scene. And usually I’m good at picking up on subtle emotional stuff like that. I wish it’d been a little clearer. THE GOOD: -Most of the movie. I went in expecting cheesy popcorn fun, and I got that in spades. -The one-liners. Done very well, unlike most action movies. -The costume, both the final version and the beta version (which really was fawking hilarious). I’m not a spidey connoisseur, so I didn’t have many expectations as to the story. Dunst didn’t bother me; I thought she handled the role pretty well. JJJ was fantastic, an archetype unto himself. The webslinging was exhilirating. And the science was so deliberately awful that it swung right back into good. I usually cringe at stuff like that in movies (e.g., the hacking scenes in _Hackers_ – shudder!). But here, it felt like Sam Raimi was saying, “You got a problem with my science, you can kiss my ass.” Okay. That, and one more cameo I heard about on the radio: Bill Paxton’s dad appears in the movie as Osbourne’s manservant. Apparently when Bill was in A Simple PLan, his dad met Raimi and got a bit part in that movie as well. All in all, well worth seeing. I’m pretty glad I went in with low expectations, though. And The Incredible Hulk, by Ang Lee? I don’t know whether to laugh, cry, or shiver with antici ---
**Author:** ![Asylum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@Asylum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asylum)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/82 "2002-05-07T08:00:28Z")
**Sam Hell** , I knew what was coming and I still got shivers. Of course I’m such a Spider-Man fan I got shivers throughout most of the movie. BTW, seeing as how this is the second page of a thread about the Spider-Man movie and multiple plot points have been discussed, putting “SPOILER” in your post might be a bit redundant. Not totally directed at you, just kinda a point in general. Did anyone else cringe in horror when the Green Goblin demanded that Aunt May finish the Lord’s Prayer? And not cringe in horror in a good way, but more in a “Dear God, that is cheesy!” **Caesar’s Ghost** , JJ think of that because of reasons already discussed in this thread (not trying to be snotty, just in case you missed them). I’m definitely with you on the whole people not being more amazed by Spidey’s feats at school. Guy suddenly displays incredible strength and reflexes, not to mention having the cafeteria tray stuck to his wrist, and no one makes the connection between Peter Parker and Spider-Man? And what about the wrestling manager and the cop who saw him without his mask on? C’mon. Still loved the movie 'tho. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/83 "2002-05-07T08:03:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RickJay \* > \*\*- Hum the Superman them. > > - Now hum the Batman theme. > - Now, hum the Indiana Jones theme. > - Now hum the Spider-Man theme. Can’t do it, can you? \*\* Can’t do it for any of them. I liked the movie a lot, but the early learning-to-swing-around special effects were just bad. He looked like Floppy The Rubber Man, totally not how his body would move, or how it moved at any other time in the movie. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/84 "2002-05-08T17:45:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bouv \* > \*\*wow…just checked imdb, and the sequel is ALREADY annouced. Production will start in early 2003, so expect it out for summer of 2004. \*\* Close. Columbia Pictures has announced they are aming for a 7 May 2004 release. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/85 "2002-05-08T17:56:19Z")
[Columbia spins 2004 date for ‘Spider-Man 2’](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hollywoodreporter/film/brief_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1483774) ---
**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/86 "2002-05-08T18:16:33Z")
I thought the line was “teeming masses” not “teeming millions.” But then after reading this thread, I’m beginning to think that compared to some of you, I was watching this movie with only half my senses turned on. Such eyes for detail! ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/87 "2002-05-08T18:35:57Z")
Just to add to what **Legomancer** said about only DC comic books existing in Spidey’s world. Peter goes “Shazam!” during the scene where he’s trying to make his webs work. Shazam, in addition to being the Mightiest Mortal, is a DC hero. ---
**Author:** ![Politzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ab097/32.png) [@Politzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Politzania)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/88 "2002-05-08T20:43:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DanielWithrow \* > \*\*\ > And The Incredible Hulk, by Ang Lee? I don’t know whether to laugh, cry, or shiver with antici \*\* [RHCP] \*\* SAY IT! \*\* [/RHCP] Oh - sorry … wrong movie … Already posted my review on [Unaboard: A&E](http://65.69.77.33/forums/showthread.php?threadid=2345) ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/89 "2002-05-08T20:45:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hello Again \* > Just to add to what **Legomancer** said about only DC comic books existing in Spidey’s world. Peter goes “Shazam!” during the scene where he’s trying to make his webs work. Nah, that just proves that Fawcett comics exist in the Sipdey-movie-verse. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Politzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ab097/32.png) [@Politzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Politzania)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/90 "2002-05-08T20:47:50Z")
Crap – make that pseudocode RHPS … (embarrassed smiley) And yes, I often abbreviate this site as SMDB… ---
**Author:** ![Nichol\_storm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Nichol\_storm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nichol_storm)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2002, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/91 "2002-05-11T17:27:08Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Hello Again > Just to add to what Legomancer said about only DC comic books existing in Spidey’s world. Peter goes “Shazam!” during the scene where he’s trying to make his webs work. There was a scene in the Gen X comic where Jubilee says to Husk, “Don’t you need to find a phone booth to do that?” Husk replies, “Huh?” and Jubilee, somewhat crestfallen, says, “Oh yeah, I forgot you don’t read Superman.” ---
**Author:** ![Bren\_Cameron\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@Bren\_Cameron\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bren_Cameron_1)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2002, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/92 "2002-05-13T18:02:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sam Hell \* > \*\*Did anyone else have a sort of “unreal” feeling when they first showed the Green Goblin flying in to attack the Oscorp guys at the festival? Not unreal as in fake, just a kind of unbelieving feeling. It was a sort of “ah hell, what is that?” kind of deal. Or maybe it was just the caffine and I should shut up now? \*\* Actually, my first reaction to that scene was to lean over and whisper to my husband, “Surrender Dorothy!” Well, that’s what it made me think of. ---
**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2002, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/93 "2002-05-13T19:32:36Z")
I saw it twice this weekend. After coming out of the theater on Saturday, I found myself unable to point out any real flaws in the movie. Sure, you can nitpick a little, but there was nothing in there that made me go, “Hey! What’s the deal?” I went again on Sunday, thinking that I was just too overwhelmed the first time. I had the same reaction. There’s nothing wrong with this film. It is the perfect superhero movie. ---
**Author:** ![c\_goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@c\_goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/c_goat)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2002, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/94 "2002-05-13T20:02:43Z")
I saw it on friday. Good stuff. Am I the only one that noticed Bone-Saw was “Macho Man” Randy Savage? It was hard to tell, but I checked the credits afterwards and there he was. Just another cameo to add to the list. ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2002, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/95 "2002-05-22T22:38:17Z")
I saw it and I liked it a whole lot more than I did _Attack of the Clones_. Spidey’s been a favorite of mine since the '60s with the Bakshi cartoon and I thought they did it just right. It ain’t perfect, but what is? ---
**Author:** ![Sealemon88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Sealemon88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sealemon88)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2002, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/96 "2002-05-24T04:37:44Z")
SAw it this evening. Yes the special effects were sometimes cheesy, but I LOVED they way Parker had to learn how to use his powers. The scene where he kicked the crap out of the armored car robbers was sweet. The Green Goblin’s mask sucked ass. There MUST have been something better they could have done with it. Overall, a fun movie. > [@](#): > > One question, though. In the comic book, the irradiated spider dies immediately after biting Peter, but in the movie the genetically-engineered super-spider just scuttles away, free to bite again. Maybe Brock will get bitten by this spider too (Shown in flashback), and that’s how he becomes Venom. It would be a convenient way to avoid the whole alien suit backstory. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowWarrior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7993a0/32.png) [@ShadowWarrior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowWarrior)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2002, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/97 "2002-05-24T14:13:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Asylum \* > \*\*Screw that. Go [here.](http://dotcomics.marvel.com/menu_flash.htm) Marvel allows people to view some of their more popular comic books online for free. \*\* I hate you, Asylum - I’ve just spent all day reading comic books… I’ll probably get sacked now! 🙂 great site, thanx! ---
**Author:** ![BeerDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@BeerDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeerDog)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2002, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/98 "2002-05-24T18:39:53Z")
Saw it, mostly liked it, nuff said. My thoughts on the sequel: I’m assuming the Harry won’t become the next Green Goblin right away for two reasons. One, that would basically just be the same villain as last time, Two, Harry doesn’t even know that his Dad was the first Green Goblin does he? At least that was the impression I got from the movie. I assumed that was why Harry was so angry at Spidey for being inviolved in his “innocent” fathers death. Osborne Jr, fueled by his hatred of Spidey, will fund the creation of the Sinister Six (or possibly Venom, through the other genetically modified spiders…… which, of course will go horribly awry and result in the giant mouthed, slobbery, fangy nut-ball we all know and love). This should result in the appearance of some classic spidey villains like Dr. Ock and Sandman, plus we could see some goofy comic relief type villains (Electro with his goofy-ass headgear anyone?) Of course, that’s just my opinion, I could be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Netbrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71e660/32.png) [@Netbrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Netbrian)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2002, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/99 "2002-05-25T02:50:20Z")
I saw the movie, with pretty much no comic book background whatsoever, so I was extremely impressed. I loved both of the leads, and thought that they were perfect. Heck, one of the entire reasons I went was because my grandmother liked Toby. For some reason, I actually really liked the Green Goblin. I loved the voice, and thought it fit the role perfectly. This wasn’t a morally ambigious movie, and I didn’t want it to be. Although I may just have ultra-low standards, I thought the costume was superb, as was the actor. For awhile, he almost stole the show. With that cleared up, could someone kind of explain to me a few things? People are mentioning allusions to other villians in the series, and I didn’t catch any of that. Obviously I don’t know where to look, but could someone point out some of the places that there was groundwork laid (for instance, I’m confused about which costume is spoken of by so many that appeared in the movie) for future villians, with no spoilers? I caught his son likely being involved (wasn’t a horribly subtle hint) as a villian, but none else. Thanks! I may actually read the comic now… ---
**Author:** ![Cataclysm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Cataclysm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cataclysm)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2002, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784/100 "2002-05-26T08:00:13Z")
Saw it last night. And I LOVED it. It was right up there with X-men as one of the best movie adaptions of a comic/cartoon series. Although I’m not well versed in the comic books, I watched the cartoon reguarly. And while the movie wasn’t true to canon, I believe it took the best possibly route. Plus, I thought Peter’s reason for not stopping the guy that eventually killed his Uncle Ben was a hell of a lot more realistic than in the cartoon - why would you want to help someone that just robbed you of $2900? I didn’t mind Kirsten Dunst, but I didn’t think she was the right person to pick for the role. But I am also glad that they picked Tobey Macguire as Spidey - he’s not your typical goodlooking, tall, dark, handsome superhero, and I thought that was brilliant. Btw, did anyone else get any vague Matrix flashbacks when Spidey and the Green Goblin fought in the burning building? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-i-saw-clue-your-friendly-neighborhood-spiderman/106784.md?page=6)