# Guess what, ladies, we're ruining this country! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 1999, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-ladies-were-ruining-this-country/1891 "1999-06-27T07:38:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 1999, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-ladies-were-ruining-this-country/1891/41 "1999-07-01T09:14:00Z")
She deleted everything that was negative. I was sorry tohave missed the post from the Christian man…that would have been interesting. I say we all just keep going after her in the guestbook til she gets so frustrated she shuts it down altogether. Pound her! Pound her! * * * Stoidela Don’t meddle in the affairs of dragons, cuz, like, you’re crunchy and taste good with ketchup. ---
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The post from the professor was great- he told her she wouldn’t recognize the Saviour if he hit her in the eye with a lightning bolt, and that by her reasoning Mother Theresa was a whore because she wasn’t at home having babies! ---
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> [@](#): > > homesexuality a.k.a. Homeschool Sex Education Class ---
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Hey I corrected my spelling error! But that’s pretty funny anyway! ---
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Hell, she’s pruned her page again, and after I posted something that I thought was really smart and semi-respectful. So I posted something else. Wanna read it before it gets deleted too? > [@](#): > > Lynda, I had another thought… just out of morbid curiosity, how many black scientists, engineers, doctors, inventors, etc., can you name that have made a lasting impact on society? Probably about as many as you can women, hmm? Does that mean that blacks are also inferior to and should be subjugated by superior white males? Here’s another site that may be of interest to you; it goes to great detail about why blacks are inferior, evil, and need to be controlled, and backs it up with legal cites, Bible stories, and statistics. They view blacks as poorly as you and the Father’s Manifesto view women. Happy reading! [www.whitesonly.net](http://www.whitesonly.net) Here’s my semi-respectful, already deleted message: > [@](#): > > Lynda, I’m very disappointed to see that you deleted messages from your guest book, particularly those from a very wise Christian father. Are you not allowed to disagree with a man? Is that why you had to delete his words rather than refute them? I find it very odd to read on your page that equalists are obsessed with their genitals. It seems to me that those who wish to reinforce gender stereotypes are the ones more concerned with genitals. Personally, I just want to get my job done and help provide for my family so we can live comfortably. Mostly, I just want to live my life without it being dictated by my gender. I have dreams and goals that involve making life better for both my husband and me. I resent strangers telling me I’m not smart enough or capable enough to achieve this based soley on my gender. My husband and mother think I can, my father (God rest his soul) thought I could, why should I listen to strangers tell me otherwise? How can you presume to know what’s better for me than they do? How can you presume to know better than me what is in my heart and mind? And how can you presume to tell me that what is or isn’t between my legs is more important? Life is about choices, for men and women both. You made yours and you have the right to be respected for it. The rest of us have made ours and we ask the same. Oh well. I can’t preach to her, so I’ll preach to the choir 🙂 * * * “I hope life isn’t a big joke, because I don’t get it,” Jack Handy ---
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Yeah, I think we’ve had all the fun we’re going to be allowed to have with the Stepford Wives homepage- ah well, it was fun while it lasted… ---
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She’s moved all the stuff she doesn’t like to a page called “Feminist hatemail”. Apparantly, anything anyone says in disagreement with her constitutes hatemail. sigh… * * * Stoidela **Boycott shampoo! Demand REAL poo!** ---
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When are we all going to come to the realization that some people are just assholes? Some of these assholes are men, some are women, some are black, some are white, some are fat, some are thin, some are tall and some are short, some are gay, some are straight. Don’t let them get to you. This shadowy “they” isn’t hurting anything, you’re just allowing them to piss you off. To sit back and say some type of asshole is ruining the country is callow and counterproductive. Almost as counterproductive as it is to whine about the asshole who said it in the first place. Shake it off and go on with your life. If they get really annoying give them the finger… As long as they are only bitching then what do you gain by having a hissy? Oh, the only exceptions to this Asshole Rule of Thumb (as stated above)is that nearly all consultants are assholes, interesting. * * * PS Have a nice day. ---
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ducks, It’s just so hurtful to be slapped in the face with something so vicious, and aimed at a fundamental part of your being that you can’t change (ie, in this case, gender). Like cockroaches, this kind of ignorance and hate needs to be stamped out; but, like cockroaches, I’m afraid it will always breed faster than we can keep up. As for them “only bitching,” they _are_ gathering signatures on a petition to repeal the 19th amendment. People do need to be aware of when their rights are threatened. * * * “I hope life isn’t a big joke, because I don’t get it,” Jack Handy ---
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I really understand how several of you want to pound this nitwit’s site, but really -you’re just encouraging them. You’re making them feel important, that they’re being taken seriously. I know it’s frustrating, but these are the kind of people you can’t reason with. And how do they think they can repeal the 19th Amendment? “Guess who would get to vote on that, you women-hating pinhead’s - WE WOULD.” \*\*Gr8kat[/]: 25 is not past that math-learning curve. 42 is well past it, I know that, but not 25. You can do it. ---
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Thanks, aseymayo. I try to bear in mind, too, that it _has_ been **eight** years since I took any kind of a math course. I’m just a little (or a lot) rusty, but I learned algebra once, I can learn it again 🙂 * * * “I hope life isn’t a big joke, because I don’t get it,” Jack Handy ---
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I agree wholeheartedly that there are some real dangers in this world that must be acted upon… This, however, is not one of them. Repeal of the 19th Amendment? Puhleez! This just go to show that their “Fathers’ Manifesto” site is run by a a pathetic little man who gets his jollies by spanking his Vienna Sausage sized weenie at the thought of pissing you, and others like you, off. Send him an e-mail, tell him he is an asshole then block him from responding to your e-mail. You get the last word and, by the playground logic that I live my life by, you win… Save your energy for the real threats. * * * PS Have a nice day. ---
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This stuff is terrible. Look at this one from [http://fathers.ourfamily.com/discmen.htm](http://fathers.ourfamily.com/discmen.htm) Twenty One Indicators of Systemic Discrimination Against Men ``` The American woman by the 1960s lived in the nation with the world's highest standard of living and owned 65% of the wealth in that nation. Feminists nonetheless felt "victimized" and convinced us that women are "discriminated against". Never have they been required to nor been able to produce a shred of statistical evidence to back up that claim. Twenty one key statistical indicators each reveal that men have been and are being systematically discriminated against by government fiat. Men pay 115% of federal taxes yet women constitute 11.5% more of the vote, preventing men from presenting their counterclaim in the media, nor even to government. ``` 1.WEALTH: Women hold 65% of the country’s wealth [Fortune Magazine] 2.CHILD CUSTODY: Women receive custody of 92% of the children of divorce and illegitimacy, and men only 4%. [Department of Health & Human Services] 3.INCOME: Men constitute 60% of workplace hours, work longer hours, work harder, and are more qualified, rarely file sexual discrimination or harassment lawsuits or take pregnancy leave, yet earn only 42% more than women [Dept. Labor] 4.SUICIDE: Men’s suicide rate is 4.6 times higher than women’s [Dept. Health & Human Services – 26,710 males vs 5,700 females] 5.LIFE EXPECTANCY: Men’s life expectancy is seven (7) years shorter than women’s [National Center for Health Statistics – males 72.3 yrs vs females 79 yrs] yet receive only 35% of government expenditures for health care and medical costs. 6.AFFIRMATIVE ACTION: Men are discriminated against BY DESIGN through affirmative action. 7.FEDERAL TAXES: Men pay 115% of federal income taxes [menpy115.htm] 8.VOTE: There are 11.1% more female voters than male voters SO the male vote has little influence on how the male tax dollar is spent. 9.WAR: Men, not women, fight and die in battle [Dept. Defense – Vietnam Casualties 47,369 men vs 74 women] while women sue the taxpayer when they have their butt pinched. 10.WORKPLACE FATALITIES: Men account for more than 95% of workplace fatalities. 11.MURDER: Men are murdered at a rate almost 5 times that of women [Dept. Health & Human Services – 26,710 men vs 5,700 women] 12.JURY BIAS: Women are acquitted of spousal murder at a rate 9 times that of men [Bureau Justice Statistics – 1.4% of men vs 12.9% of women] 13.COURT BIAS: Men are sentenced 2.8 times longer than women for spousal murder [Bureau Justice Statistics – men at 17 years vs women at 6 years] 14.JUSTICE SYSTEM BIAS: Fathers are 97% of “child support” collections prosecutions [Census Bureau] 15.WELFARE: Men are the recipients of less than 10% of all welfare disbursements. 16.SECONDARY EDUCATION: Why should feminists demand that schools be gender balanced?. The public education establishment has been a major feminist power base since the 1960’s, and now men are only 45% of all college admissions. 17.HIGHER EDUCATION: There are more than 200 all-female colleges for women and now not one single all-male college for men. 5.8% fewer men than women are enrolled in 4 year colleges, even though two thirds of those who score higher than 550 in SAT Math are males. In 1993 only 44.5% of college enrollment were men, and that figure has declined since then. Only 45.8% of of bachelor’s degrees were conferred to men in 1992, even though 98.2% of the top fiftieth percentile of the GRE are men, and ZERO PERCENT of American high school girls correctly answered 28 out of 67 TIMSS advanced math questions. Only 38.4% of private 4 year college students were men as of 1990, and this figure has declined since then. 18.LEGAL SYSTEM BIAS: 96% of physical altercations resulting in injury to a spouse occurs AFTER the date of separation. [Read: spousal abuse laws that pretend that husbands are dangerous discriminate against husbands when we know that only a very small percent of domestic violence is associated with them]. [Chadwick and Heaton, “Statistical Handbook of the American Family”] 19.DOMESTIC VIOLENCE: 58% of the above mentioned physical altercations are initiated by the female. [Read: despite the fact we discriminate against husbands in protective orders, women still cause more than half of domestic altercations. It is as if they know they can get away with it]. [ibid.] 20.CHILD VIOLENCE: Mothers commit 55% of child murders and biological fathers commit 6%, while children are systematically removed from the custody of the biological fathers who are their most effective protectors. 21.FAMILY BREAKDOWN: The US Surgeon General notes that divorce is more harmful to a man’s health than smoking tobacco, yet as much as $1.3 Trillion of federal expenditures do little else than undermine family stability. ---
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They’re even slamming Madame Curie Take a look at this history rewrite [http://fathers.ourfamily.com/curie.htm](http://fathers.ourfamily.com/curie.htm) For almost a century, feminists have held up Madame Curie as such a paragon of feminine accomplishments that who Pierre Curie is, that he hired her as a laboratory assistant, that Professor Henri Becquerel received half the Nobel Prize, that Madame Curie received only a quarter of the Nobel Prize, that Pierre was so sick from his experiments with radiation that he couldn’t stand long enough to accept the prize, are all forgotten. (the rest of this post has been snipped for copyright reasons-Moderator) [Note: This message has been edited by Lynn Bodoni] ---
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Susan, I read some of what you reprinted from that site and busted out laughing. I couldn’t help it. > [@](#): > > 3.INCOME: Men constitute 60% of workplace hours, work longer hours, work harder, and are more qualified, rarely file sexual discrimination or harassment lawsuits or take pregnancy leave, yet earn only 42% more than women [Dept. Labor] Hmm…men don’t file for sexual discrimination? Maybe because they’re doing the harrassing in the first place? And they never file for pregnancy leave? How the hell could they? And they _only_ earn 42% more than me? Awww, the poor things. Somehow I can’t feel sorry for them, considering I barely make enough to live on. \< shrug \> Sorry, I just needed to point out this idiocy to someone who’d understand, like y’all. I’d write to them, but I don’t feel like getting placed on the “feminist hatemail” feedback site more than once… 😉 ---
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Aren’t they a hoot! “And they _only_ earn 42% more than me? Awww, the poor things. Somehow I can’t feel sorry for them, considering I barely make enough to live on. \< shrug \>” What the heck do they want, anyway? ---
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Here are a few excerpts from an article that ran in a local paper, the McMinnville News-Register, about a year ago, and I still have it hanging on the wall of my cubicle. It’s about a lady who was my typing teacher (and the typing teacher of just about everyone in Willamina, OR) and a personal hero of mine. I was a Sophomore the year computers replaced the typewriters, and while it was hard for everyone to adjust, it is admirable that Mrs. Mitchell not only adjusted but taught another 10 years as well. She is one of these women who are supposedly ruining the public education system: “Tenacious Typing Teacher Leaves Classroom After 52 Years for Garden,” by Paul Daquilante, News-Register Willamina–When the school bell signals the end of class June 9, Lucille Mitchell will close out her **52nd year** of teaching high school typing, shorthand and accounting… …if she gets bored with [gardening], she plans to volunteer with the school district. “You’ve got to stay busy,” she said. …Mitchell, who was hired in the fall of **1946** …didn’t have children of her own and, after the death of her husband, Donnell, she poured herself into her work. Over the years, Mitchell has become a mentor not just to her students, but for her peers as well… “I think she has pulled it off because she believes passionately in what she has done as an educator is in the best interest of students,” [Don] Yates [principal] said. “Lucille has had the skills that students need in order to be successful in the workplace.” … Students often realize Mitchell’s influence long after graduation. “Students come back and tell me, ‘I hated what you made us do, but thank God you did, because I have this real, real good job,’” Mitchell said… “She always was gentle,” [Sharon] Shenk [secretary/treasurer of the Grand Ronde Community Water District] said. “I never saw her get angry. She didn’t even get mad at the boys, when they acted like they couldn’t hit a key. She was patient. I like that. I really liked her.”… Mitchell was born and raised in Banks, and graduated from Banks High School…Mitchell attended Pacific University in Forest Grove, where she received her undergraduate degree in business administration. She did graduate work at several universities and colleges, including Linfield, and she received a master’s degree from Columbia University in New York City… “We went from manual to electric typewriters to the ones with memory,” Mitchell said. “Now it’s the computer age. It’s been real interesting. I enjoy this, and **I wouldn’t go back to the way it once was**.” * * * “I hope life isn’t a big joke, because I don’t get it,” Jack Handy ---
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I forgot to say (Emphasis added). * * * “I hope life isn’t a big joke, because I don’t get it,” Jack Handy ---
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From a dear friend of mine: To Smart Women Everywhere! 1. I’m not offended by all the dumb blonde jokes because I know I’m not dumb… and I also know that I’m not blonde. -Dolly Parton- 2. You see a lot of smart guys with dumb women, but you hardly ever see a smart woman with a dumb guy. -Erica Jong- 3. I want to have children, but my friends scare me. One of my friends told me she was in labor for 36 hours. I don’t even want to do anything that feels good for 36 hours. -Rita Rudner- 4. My husband and I are either going to buy a dog or have a child. We can’t decide to ruin our carpet or ruin our lives. -Rita Rudner- 5. I’ve been on so many blind dates, I should get a free dog. -Wendy Liebman- 6. Never lend your car to anyone to whom you have given birth. -Erma Bombeck- 7. If high heels were so wonderful, men would still be wearing them.-Sue Grafton- 8. I’m not going to vacuum 'til Sears makes one you can ride on. -Roseanne Barr- 9. I think-therefore I’m single. -Lizz Winstead- 10. When women are depressed they either eat or go shopping. Men invade another country. -Elayne Boosler- 11. Behind every successful man is a surprised woman. -Maryon Pearson- 12. I base most of my fashion taste on what doesn’t itch. -Gilda Radner- 13. In politics, if you want anything said, ask a man; if you want anything done, ask a woman. -Margaret Thatcher- 14. I have yet to hear a man ask for advice on how to combine marriage and a career. -Gloria Steinem- 15. Some of us are becoming the men we wanted to marry. -Gloria Steinem- 16. I never married because there was no need. I have three pets at home which answer the same purpose as a husband. I have a dog which growls every morning, a parrot which swears all afternoon and a cat that comes home late at night. -Marie Corelli- 17. Nagging is the repetition of unpalatable truths. -Baroness Edith Summerskill 18. If men can run the world, why can’t they stop wearing neckties? How intelligent is it to start the day by tying a little noose around your neck? -Linda Ellerbee- 19. I am a marvelous housekeeper. Every time I leave a man, I keep his house. -Zsa Zsa Gabor- 20. Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission. -Eleanor Roosevelt- * * * “I hope life isn’t a big joke, because I don’t get it,” Jack Handy ---
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Interesting tidbit: Many studies have shown that of all the various configurations of gender and marital status, the happiest and most long-lived are SINGLE WOMEN and MARRIED MEN (in that order). And the most miserable and short lived are single men and married women. Kinda blows a whole in a lot of cultural cliches, doesnt’ it? * * * Stoidela **Boycott shampoo! Demand REAL poo!** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-ladies-were-ruining-this-country/1891.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-ladies-were-ruining-this-country/1891.md?page=4)