# Guess what Texas immigration authorities did to Kamala Harris - AGAIN? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 25, 2022, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091 "2022-12-25T23:03:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/81 "2022-12-26T19:52:28Z")
Exactly. You can follow the Church’s teachings by fighting against abortion and gay marriage, or by fighting against poverty and racism. Theoretically you have to agree that all four of those things are evil, but you get to choose which ones you actually care about. Or if you’re a layperson, you can just vocally disagree on some of them with no consequence. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/82 "2022-12-26T20:31:15Z")
> [@Bootb](#): > > > [@RitterSport](#): > > > > I know the pope wouldn’t say what I wrote. Abbott claims he’s a devout Catholic and yet he pulls that bullshit on Christmas. He couldn’t be less Christian or less Catholic if he tried. > > > > He’s a sanctimonious, hypocritical asshole. ⁢ > > > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > > I don’t think what Abbot did was remotely Christian or Catholic , and I think the point was that Abbot does not even remotely follow the popes words or message. Abbot is an anti-Christian. He had shown that he actively works against the words of the pope. ⁢ > > Just like Biden and Pelosi, who are Catholic and yet enthusiastically and stridently oppose their church’s teaching on abortion. ⁢ I don’t know about Pelosi, but Biden’s stance on abortion it is that he is against it but it is not the government’s place to legislate it. This seems consistent (to me) with the Catholic stance on the Separation of Church and State and freedom of religion. I also note that helping the poor and unfortunate, taking care of the stranger in your land, and just general hospitality are mentioned all over the Bible, while abortion isn’t ever mentioned, being banned in the 1869. And, even at the time, not all Catholics agreed, as officially ensoulment only occurs after the quickening (when the fetus’s noticeably moves inside the womb). More about why being pro-choice is not incompatible with Catholicism can be seen in this article I found: > **[The history of Catholic teaching on abortion isn’t as clear cut as you think](https://theoutline.com/post/8536/catholic-history-abortion-brigid)** > > Its position has hardly been “unchangeable” throughout the past two millennia. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/83 "2022-12-26T20:45:03Z")
Something is itching at me. It’s not just immigrants. We are the richest country on the planet. We should be standing up for EVERYONE. Every Man, Woman and Child. That’s what good people do. Republicans are happy to let people go without health care in our own country. They are happy to take away a woman’s or anyone’s rights to health care. They are fine with people going homeless and hungry. Republicans are happy to deny religious freedom. Vote everyone. Vote. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/84 "2022-12-26T21:07:51Z")
You know what I find striking? In the past few years, Uganda has been taking in a lot of refugees, fleeing from the violence in South Sudan. The number of officially-registered refugees is 17% of the native-born population of Uganda, and there are probably a lot more who aren’t officially registering. And the people of Uganda are greeting them with open arms, helping them to build homes, giving them food and land, and otherwise setting up with the same standard of living that they themselves have. That’s what Uganda is doing. And we, in the richest country in the world, can’t do even a fraction of that? Is Uganda so much more advanced than us? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/85 "2022-12-26T21:34:45Z")
Short answer: yes Long answer: yes, but with more words ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/86 "2022-12-26T21:39:44Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Something is itching at me. It’s not just immigrants. We are the richest country on the planet. We should be standing up for EVERYONE. Every Man, Woman and Child. > > That’s what good people do. And yet many Republicans do NOT do this. As an exercise to the reader, what doe this tell you about these many Republicans? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/87 "2022-12-26T22:13:59Z")
Ordinarily, I’d feel sorry for someone who lost the use of his legs. I cannot feel sorry for Abbott. He has handicaps that are even worse- his lack of compassion and empathy for fellow humans and a heart that knows only hatred. For that, I do feel sorry for him. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/88 "2022-12-26T22:22:41Z")
> [@Bootb](#): > > Just like Biden and Pelosi, who are Catholic and yet enthusiastically and stridently oppose their church’s teaching on abortion. Yeah, I totally remember when Biden paid for Pelosi’s abortion. Until either one of them use the power of government to force abortions, you can blow it out your ass. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/89 "2022-12-27T00:37:54Z")
I’m in Kansas and there is a town here where a lot of folks from the Society of Pope Pius X have settled. They have school in a former Benedictine facility, you can go there from kindergarten to college. Of course, just to make things awkward, there are “regular” Calholics there too in the town. The Pius X organization is just before finishing a huge new church building, as the older church was destroyed in a fire a few years back. It will be the largest church building in the state. > **[The Immaculata Church Project](https://www.anewimmaculata.org/)** ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/90 "2022-12-27T00:49:24Z")
That is some dedication! Bless him. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/91 "2022-12-27T00:52:13Z")
I’m pretty sure Catholic Charities gets its money from general fundraising. I have donated to them, and I’m not Catholic. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/92 "2022-12-27T00:55:28Z")
It’s between Topeka and Manhattan. It also sounds cultish. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/93 "2022-12-27T00:56:08Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > The Pius X organization is just before finishing a huge new church building, as the older church was destroyed in a fire a few years back. It will be the largest church building in the state. - > > [https://www.anewimmaculata.org/](https://www.anewimmaculata.org/) $40 million, so far. Too bad none of that goes to charity work. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/94 "2022-12-27T01:24:59Z")
Oh that’s how a lot of people view them. There’s a Sam’s Club here in Topeka and the big families come regularly to shop and save money. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/95 "2022-12-27T01:30:45Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > I’m pretty sure Catholic Charities gets its money from general fundraising. I have donated to them, and I’m not Catholic. Well, I figured they would get their money from various sources - I would have guessed that grants made up a significant fraction of their income. Still, I’d have expected donations from churchgoers to be a more significant fraction that it apparently is. I’m not finding a good breakdown - @Mighty_Mouse, can you share the source of the 3% from tithing (yes, I said it again!). I believe you, I’m just curious to see a reasonably detailed report. As someone who prepares financial reports for a 501c3 myself, I’m geekily interested in such things. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/96 "2022-12-27T01:37:04Z")
Trying hopelessly to stick to the matter to the asshattery of Reactionary politicos in general and Texas Governor Abbott in particular… > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > [@enipla](#): > > > > We are the richest country on the planet. We should be standing up for EVERYONE. Every Man, Woman and Child. > > > > That’s what good people do. > > And yet many Republicans do NOT do this. They would tell you, that the flaw lies in that statement _“That’s what good people do”_ and that no, being good does not necessarily have to do with doing that. That it’s not about being “good” but about being “right” and what’s right is to stand up for those who _deserve_ to be stood for, and most people don’t. > [@BobLibDem](#): > > I cannot feel sorry for Abbott. He has handicaps that are even worse- his lack of compassion and empathy for fellow humans and a heart that knows only hatred. For that, I do feel sorry Though again, he and his followers do not see that, but instead someone who gives people what they got comin’. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/97 "2022-12-27T01:38:08Z")
I used to live down the block from an “Old Catholic” (ie splitoff fringe group) Cathedral in Milwaukee. It was just a wood frame building that looked on the verge of falling down, but I guess the Old Bishop was in residence there. ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/98 "2022-12-27T01:53:48Z")
So it’s ok if they freeze in Texas but not in DC? Ok… ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/99 "2022-12-27T01:55:08Z")
I can’t get my head around the notion that those are the only two options that Abbott had… ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-texas-immigration-authorities-did-to-kamala-harris-again/977091/100 "2022-12-27T01:56:20Z")
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