# Guess what? We don't give a fuck that you are from NYC... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 6, 2006, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482 "2006-10-06T11:40:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/21 "2006-10-06T13:50:25Z")
Hey, how do you think us from upstate feel? I have talked to many people from NYC who don’t know Albany is the capital of the state, don’t know how to spell it or pronounce it, and think all Upstate is a bunch of bumblefucks. But I still love NYC, I gotta admit. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/22 "2006-10-06T13:55:52Z")
What, you think John McClane would’ve been able to kick terrorist ass three times in a row if he was from the sissy East Coast? The LAPD couldn’t do shit about Nakatomi Plaza! You don’t fuck with the NYPD, man. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/23 "2006-10-06T14:02:57Z")
[QUOTE=Sattua] Give New Yorkers a break. They live in tiny, noisy holes-in-the-wall, have to walk on dirty, smelly streets every day of their lives, can’t buy the kinds of basic household items that the rest of us take for granted without getting on a bus to New Jersey, need two hours for a two mile commute, are constantly victimized by lazy if not malicious service workers, and get to pay an outrageous cost of living for the privilege of doing so. If they want to be all cocky about coming from America’s Third World, they can go ahead and do that. [/QUOTE] What’s difficult to buy in NYC? ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/24 "2006-10-06T14:06:59Z")
Not exactly a Basic Household Item, but I was in JCPenney in Ames, IA, yesterday and found _denim shirts_. (I like me a denim shirt when the fall chill comes on.) Eddie Bauer had 'em for awhile in NYC, but styles change. Except at Penneys. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/25 "2006-10-06T14:09:49Z")
[QUOTE=Anaamika] Hey, how do you think us from upstate feel? I have talked to many people from NYC who don’t know Albany is the capital of the state, don’t know how to spell it or pronounce it, and think all Upstate is a bunch of bumblefucks. [/QUOTE] That’s not true. You’re just Canadians who migrated too far south. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/26 "2006-10-06T14:11:12Z")
[QUOTE=D\_Odds] That’s not true. You’re just Canadians who migrated too far south. [/QUOTE] Eh? 😃 But I am _not_ Canadian. _kicks **D\_odds** _ ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/27 "2006-10-06T14:12:09Z")
About NYPD/FDNY: For some time now they have been considered (how rightly I don’t know) _the elite_ of their respective professions by fellow-members of those professions across the country. The NYC Police Commissioner, Chief-of-Dep’t., etc. can go on to run any big-city force (Bill Bratton, Boston; John Timoney, Miami). It’s almost as if no other Commish has the _opportunity_ to do well and get noticed for it. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/28 "2006-10-06T14:39:37Z")
[QUOTE=THespos] Yeah, it’s a 9-11 phenomenon. Like people from New York weren’t fucking proud and obnoxious before 9-11… :rolleyes: As for the 9-11 thing, if you happen to be talking to someone about the terrorist attacks, wouldn’t you want to know that they’re from one of the places that got hit? Might make sense to know they might have first-hand experience with the tragedy. Would you rather they sit there quietly and not relate those experiences? Suppose you were talking about Woodstock. Yeah, you might have seen the movie, but suppose someone participating in the discussion had seen it live? Wouldn’t it make sense for them to pipe up? Jeez. The propensity for New Yorkers to let people know where they’re from is something that goes back a lot further than 2001. [/QUOTE] On this board, I’ve seen New Yorkers arrogantly assume that a person is not from New York City simply because that person is against how the War on Terrorism is being carried out. It’s this kind of attitude that I object to. A New Yorker’s opinion on 9/11 is not any more or less important than anyone else’s. Being from Brooklyn does not make you a terrorism expert. I was right across the river in Newark when it happened. I saw the smoke for almost a week from the Turnpike. At least twice a month, prior to that day, you could find me coming out of the World Trade Center…and when the towers collasped, I instantly imagined myself under the weight of all that rumble. But I don’t think these facts give me any more claim to 9/11 than anyone else. 9/11 was an attack on our country. But hearing some New Yorkers, you’d think the whole thing was about them. If we’re debating TWAT, hearing about how your next-door neighbor’s cousin’s best friend’s orthodontist was killed in the World Trade Center will not help you win the debate. It will only make me wish I was talking to someone else. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/29 "2006-10-06T14:44:44Z")
[QUOTE=astro] What’s difficult to buy in NYC? [/QUOTE] Shit from Ikea. He found us out: we have to go to NJ to buy garbage. Life is so difficult here. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/30 "2006-10-06T15:02:29Z")
I’ve noticed that people from Texas do the same thing – mention their Texan origins in every breath. ---
**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/31 "2006-10-06T15:18:11Z")
[QUOTE=astro] What’s difficult to buy in NYC? [/QUOTE] Any number of things that are easy to buy here in cow country: hardware bits and pieces, Oxyclean, etc etc etc. Ordering things is maddening, too–hope you trust your postman and doorman, and that you’re home during business hours. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/32 "2006-10-06T15:26:09Z")
[QUOTE=THespos] I’ll concede the urine thing. But you’re kidding about the pizza and the hot dogs, right? 😉 [/QUOTE] I’m born-and-bred Chicagoan, and I will concede you the pizza (I’ve never had a bad slice in New York; plenty of awful pizza joints around here), but the dogs? Uh uh. And don’t start on the “hot dog dragged through a garden” crap, either, because that’s not the only traditional way to serve 'em here. A nice natural casing all-beef Vienna Beef or Chicago Red Hot with onions, relish, and mustard beats any New York dog any day. And I’ve had my fair share of dogs in New York. ---
**Author:** ![yBeayf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e274bd/32.png) [@yBeayf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yBeayf)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/33 "2006-10-06T15:27:34Z")
> [@](#): > > I’ve noticed that people from Texas do the same thing – mention their Texan origins in every breath. As a native Texan, I’d take issue with this statement. It’s just not seemly to be constantly mentioning that I’m from Texas – it’s too much like bragging. Being Texan, I feel sorry for these New Yorkers the OP mentions; clearly, the fact that they’re not from Texas like I am must weigh heavily on their minds, so they emphasize their New York origins as a way of compensating for the fact that, unlike me, they’re not from Texas. Breaks this Texan’s heart, it does. ---
**Author:** ![Bobotheoptimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@Bobotheoptimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bobotheoptimist)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/34 "2006-10-06T15:28:11Z")
I’m afraid I have to disagree - I deeply appreciate both NYC and Texans advertising their origins. Makes 'em easier to avoid 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/35 "2006-10-06T15:32:57Z")
It’s indisputable - being from New York City makes a guy irresistibly attractive: "_He’s really down and he’s no Clown yeah yeah He has the finest penthouse I’ve ever seen in town yeah, yeah And he’s cute in his mohair suit And he keeps his pockets full of Spending loot yeah, yeah Oo ee, yeah we’re all right Yeah, oo oo"_ (Ad Libs - _The Boy From New York City_) I think it’s the mohair suit. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/36 "2006-10-06T15:41:37Z")
[QUOTE=monstro] …On this board, I’ve seen New Yorkers arrogantly assume that a person is not from New York City simply because that person is against how the War on Terrorism is being carried out. It’s this kind of attitude that I object to. A New Yorker’s opinion on 9/11 is not any more or less important than anyone else’s. Being from Brooklyn does not make you a terrorism expert… [/QUOTE] Maybe I’m remembering wrong, but didn’t NYC (and EVERY major urban area) vote solidly AGAINST Bush in 2004? I take that as evidence that New Yorkers are pretty much not in favor of how the war on terrorism is being fought, just like most others in places where there is a significant;y greater chance of a terrorist incident. * * * A co-worker of mine who lived in NYC for some time told me I would thrive there. From my experience of having visited there half a dozen times, I thought he was calling me an asshole. I assured me it as a compliment, but… ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/37 "2006-10-06T15:43:12Z")
[QUOTE=Boyo Jim] A co-worker of mine who lived in NYC for some time told me I would thrive there. From my experience of having visited there half a dozen times, I thought he was calling me an asshole. I assured me it as a compliment, but… [/QUOTE] Mostly it just means you have a steel spine. Living in any large metropolitan area is tough, and NYC is way, way filthier than Boston or some of the other large cities I’ve seen. And when I say filthy, I mean dirty. ---
**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/38 "2006-10-06T15:44:23Z")
[QUOTE=An Arky] Amen, **Biggirl**. God, why the hell is that guy on TV. anyway? What freakin’ focus group gave him the greenlight? Is there really that big of a market for dickheads? ::looks at US Executive Branch Org Chart:: Ummmm, never mind… And yeah, I don’t understand why everyone lines up to fellate the NYPD/NYFD, either. [/QUOTE] Can’t say I haven’t thought about it. Some of the NYPD/NYFD are pretty hot. I wouldn’t stand in line though. ---
**Author:** ![THespos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@THespos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/THespos)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/39 "2006-10-06T15:46:48Z")
[QUOTE=pulykamell] I’m born-and-bred Chicagoan, and I will concede you the pizza (I’ve never had a bad slice in New York; plenty of awful pizza joints around here), but the dogs? Uh uh. And don’t start on the “hot dog dragged through a garden” crap, either, because that’s not the only traditional way to serve 'em here. A nice natural casing all-beef Vienna Beef or Chicago Red Hot with onions, relish, and mustard beats any New York dog any day. And I’ve had my fair share of dogs in New York. [/QUOTE] Two words - Gray’s Papaya. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/40 "2006-10-06T15:58:48Z")
NYC doesn’t have the reduced crime rate it has because of the stellar police force. It got it the same way they got a world class baseball team, it bought it. NYC spends more on uniformed officers (to put one on every corner) than almost every major city. Compared to say an LAPD officer, or Detroit, or Atlanta, I’d say a NYPD officer probably has a cake job. I’ve heard more than one major city policechief say "Yeah, well, we could have a decreased crime rate like NYC does too if we spent the money to have as many beat cops as they do. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482.md?page=3)