# Guess what? We don't give a fuck that you are from NYC... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 6, 2006, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482 "2006-10-06T11:40:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/41 "2006-10-06T16:07:06Z")
**And No, I’m Not from NYC:** People in this thread dis NYC residents for being arrogant, and perhaps rightly so. But they don’t have a corner on the ‘chip on your shoulder’ arrogance market… not by a long shot. Example: What Ignorant and Arrogant Hick developed (or even laughed at) the Pace Salsa commercial. “Its from Noo-Yurk-City…hang 'em high, Ezekiel!!!” Looking at where some of you people are posting from, I’d say you’ve got a Lot of Damn Gall calling people from NYC arrogant… “Another cup of Tea, Dear?” "Oh, is the kettle black already? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/42 "2006-10-06T16:07:40Z")
[QUOTE=pulykamell] I’m born-and-bred Chicagoan, and I will concede you the pizza (I’ve never had a bad slice in New York; plenty of awful pizza joints around here), but the dogs? Uh uh. And don’t start on the “hot dog dragged through a garden” crap, either, because that’s not the only traditional way to serve 'em here. A nice natural casing all-beef Vienna Beef or Chicago Red Hot with onions, relish, and mustard beats any New York dog any day. And I’ve had my fair share of dogs in New York. [/QUOTE] You’ve been lucky. There are some bad pizza shops. I’ve often wondered how they stay in business. I can’t speak about hot dogs, as I’m not a frankfurter connoisseur. There’s only one place in NY where I had good deep dish, but that wasn’t NYC and they are no longer in business. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/43 "2006-10-06T16:33:49Z")
[QUOTE=Sattua] Give New Yorkers a break. They live in tiny, noisy holes-in-the-wall, have to walk on dirty, smelly streets every day of their lives, can’t buy the kinds of basic household items that the rest of us take for granted without getting on a bus to New Jersey, need two hours for a two mile commute, are constantly victimized by lazy if not malicious service workers, and get to pay an outrageous cost of living for the privilege of doing so. If they want to be all cocky about coming from America’s Third World, they can go ahead and do that. [/QUOTE] Not to mention putting up with the pimps and the C.H.U.D.s ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/44 "2006-10-06T16:54:17Z")
A Gulf Coast Texan living in the Heart of the Homeland (OKC) chiming in here. NYC is _interesting._ It has a lot of history, both good and bad. A lot of very influential and/or famous people have come from there. It has urban legends dating back centuries. It has (or had, haven’t been there since my brother moved out of Brooklyn Heights) great water. It defies one’s imagination to envision all the utilities under the ground (cared for by C.H.U.D.s, a dark secret the city gov doesn’t want you to know). It has miles of skyscrapers. It has Park Ave and Wall St. Macy\*s is on Hearld Square. The Yankees, love them or hate them, they ARE baseball to many worldwide. It has American symbols, like the big copper gift from France, the big thing King Kong fell off of, and the first place many immigrants saw of the USofA. It’s the City That Never Sleeps. If I can make it there… Yeah, bite the Big Apple. Don’t mind the maggots! Ooh ah, ooh ah, doot doot ditty, talkin bout the boy from Cleveland? NO! New York City! Still, they do talk funny. And the D train smells bad. ---
**Author:** ![Balduran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cc9497/32.png) [@Balduran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balduran)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/45 "2006-10-06T16:55:57Z")
[QUOTE=Count Blucher] What Ignorant and Arrogant Hick developed (or even laughed at) the Pace Salsa commercial. “Its from Noo-Yurk-City…hang 'em high, Ezekiel!!!” [/QUOTE] Out of curiosity I did a search for this commercial. [Here](http://www.adforum.com/adfolio/reel_detail.asp?ID=6687682&TDI=VD1wKoxvE8&PAGE=1&bShop=True&awid=) is one of them I think. Notice the advertising firm: Young and Rubicam, Headqurters **New York City**. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/46 "2006-10-06T16:59:55Z")
One thing that does bug me, tho. Why did the victims and families of 9/11 get voted millions of dollars, but the victims and families of April 19th, 1995, got nothing? Is a dead NYC accountant worth more somehow than a dead OKC office worker? Hijack, but it still bothers me. ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/47 "2006-10-06T17:02:08Z")
[QUOTE=astro] What’s difficult to buy in NYC? [/QUOTE] Freshly picked blackberries. The truth hurts, doesn’t it. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/48 "2006-10-06T17:27:59Z")
Yah, I’m with the OP. I’ll defer to NYers on matters regarding the WTC attack, to an extent. But otherwise, dear god am I tired of hearing about it. Doesn’t help that everyone from anywhere south of Boston claims to be from NYC, even if they just spent two years at a JC there, and lived in Newark. That’s why I never wanted to visit until recently. Any place with so many people tripping over themselves to tell you “OMG IT’S SO AWESOME!” must be overcompensating for something. (I’ll assume it was the fact I couldn’t get a gorram beer at midnight on a Sunday in the East Village.) ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/49 "2006-10-06T17:34:33Z")
[QUOTE=NoClueBoy] One thing that does bug me, tho. Why did the victims and families of 9/11 get voted millions of dollars, but the victims and families of April 19th, 1995, got nothing? Is a dead NYC accountant worth more somehow than a dead OKC office worker? Hijack, but it still bothers me. [/QUOTE] I answered this upthread. Before it was light-hearted humor, now it’s dark humor / sad reality: _marketing_. ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/50 "2006-10-06T17:43:35Z")
[QUOTE=Sattua] Any number of things that are easy to buy here in cow country: hardware bits and pieces, Oxyclean, etc etc etc. Ordering things is maddening, too–hope you trust your postman and doorman, and that you’re home during business hours. [/QUOTE] You are so wrong it’s laughable. There’s a Home Depot next to Bloomingdale’s, assuming you can’t find a hardware store in your 'hood (I had three in a 10-minute walk). And yeah, I trusted my doormen, or I’d have lobbied to get them _fired_. They do work for the tenants, you know. Yeesh. Next you’ll be telling me that New York doesn’t have stores that sell nothing but umbrellas… Oh yeah. My NYC baby girl is cuter than all the rest of your kids put together! ---
**Author:** ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/51 "2006-10-06T17:47:03Z")
[QUOTE=NoClueBoy] One thing that does bug me, tho. Why did the victims and families of 9/11 get voted millions of dollars, but the victims and families of April 19th, 1995, got nothing? Is a dead NYC accountant worth more somehow than a dead OKC office worker? [/QUOTE] No. That was a feature of the post-9/11 airline bailout. Payoffs to victim’s families so they wouldn’t sue the airlines. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/52 "2006-10-06T17:50:10Z")
[QUOTE=Balduran] Out of curiosity I did a search for this commercial. [Here](http://www.adforum.com/adfolio/reel_detail.asp?ID=6687682&TDI=VD1wKoxvE8&PAGE=1&bShop=True&awid=) is one of them I think. Notice the advertising firm: Young and Rubicam, Headqurters **New York City**. [/QUOTE] Yes, they were the firm hired to make a commercial out of the client’s concept, and the client had final approval and sign-off on it before they’d cut a check (SOP). Oh, and that client is Pace Foods, of San Antonio, TX. :dubious: ---
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[QUOTE=Troy McClure SF] . Doesn’t help that everyone from anywhere south of Boston claims to be from NYC, even if they just spent two years at a JC there, and lived in Newark. [/QUOTE] I don’t know about that Newark shit, but two years is enough to make you a New Yorker. That\s one of the reasons the city’s so fucking great: other places, you have to be born there to really feel a part of the place, but for NYC, all you need to be a bon fide “local” is three simple things: 1. First month’s rent; 2. Last month’s rent; 3. Deposit. Many famous New Yorkers wereen born in New York. Many of them don’t live in New York. But the’y still New Yorkers. You live in that city, it does something to you. It changes you - and you stay changed. My wife and I lived in New York for two years (I also lived there for a few years as a child). We don’t even live in the same hemisphere anymore, and yet on some level we still think of ourselves as New Yorkers. ---
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I’m all for the NYC bashing though I do enjoy visiting. The OP seems a little off. It was a show about donuts. So they had to get a cop to be a judge. See the clever joke? Who would have thought of it? The show is based in NYC as is Flay. So where do you think they should have found their cop judge? Fly him in from LA? ---
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[QUOTE=Beware of Doug] About NYPD/FDNY: [/QUOTE] I am so glad someone got it right. NYPD is correct. **FDNY is correct** , I do not know what the NYFD is? Maybe New York Fajita Dealers? 😉 Sorry it was bugging me. BTW: my FD NY PD hat has the NY as the Yankee Logo, I bought it in October 2001, and I make no apologies for it. I take pride in the Response of both organizations to that day and in the Yankees. …My Mom had half dozen cousins that retired from those forces and she lost at least one second cousin on 9/11, though I never met the guy. Why should not New Yorkers take pride? It has the best and the worst of the US in one large noisy chaotic package. I could not live there, but I love visiting, I still feel like a New Yorker at heart, despite being a suburban boy. I love the rhythm of the city. It is a great thing to take pride in. Jim ---
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[QUOTE=Loach] I’m all for the NYC bashing though I do enjoy visiting. The OP seems a little off. It was a show about donuts. So they had to get a cop to be a judge. See the clever joke? Who would have thought of it? The show is based in NYC as is Flay. So where do you think they should have found their cop judge? Fly him in from LA? [/QUOTE] You haven’t been paying attention here. I don’t care that they got a cop. Funny haha. It was the way he identified himself as, not just a cop, but a NEW YORK CITY cop. He could have been doing the show in Miami Florida and still would have added the NYC qualifier. The show was just the straw that broke the camels back for me. It happens ALL the time. It’s not more impressive to be from NYC than anywhere else and you look like an ass if you towt (sp) your NYCness as some special info, as most NYCers constantly do. FYI I think Flay is based out of Phoenix, not NYC. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/57 "2006-10-06T18:20:47Z")
Of the two, I much prefer the braggin of the NYCers over that of Texans. The NYCers have something to brag about, afterall. I’ve never understood the Texan attitude. So your state was once (briefly) a country? So what? So you like bad music and funny shoes? So what? So you have a distinct regional accent? And? It baffles me. ---
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[QUOTE=eleanorigby] So what? So you like bad music and funny shoes? [/QUOTE] Don’t forget, we all ride horses to work and have oil wells in our back yard. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![yBeayf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e274bd/32.png) [@yBeayf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yBeayf)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482/59 "2006-10-06T18:45:48Z")
> [@](#): > > I’ve never understood the Texan attitude. So your state was once (briefly) a country? So what? So you like bad music and funny shoes? So what? So you have a distinct regional accent? And? It baffles me. Speaking as a Texan, I believe the mere existence of Texas barbeque is sufficient proof of our superiority. ---
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[QUOTE=yBeayf] Speaking as a Texan, I believe the mere existence of Texas barbeque is sufficient proof of our superiority. [/QUOTE] Texas does have good BBQ. I say let people brag a little, it doesn’t hurt anyone. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-what-we-dont-give-a-fuck-that-you-are-from-nyc/375482.md?page=4)