# Guess who the last Cylon is! \[No Spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 16, 2009, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561 "2009-01-16T05:17:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/21 "2009-01-16T16:10:03Z")
> [@ambushed](#): > > I very much doubt it’s Felix. I suggest that once you have seen the latest online webisodes (discussed with open spoilers elsewhere in this forum[here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10700518)), you’ll consider him much less likely. The producers and writers probably won’t want to compound this last minute business with another heavy load. Actually, I have seen the webisodes…and they tipped the balance on my choice of Gaeta as the final cylon. He seems to sorta fit the hybrid’s prophesy about arriving in great pain, clawing toward the light. ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/22 "2009-01-16T16:10:53Z")
I’m totally down with Roslin. I mean, her being the last Cylon. But also in that way too. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/23 "2009-01-16T16:32:11Z")
> [@AndyPolley](#): > > I just finished my season 4.0 re-watch and I’m casting my bet on Madame Airlock herself, Laura Roslin. There’s a lot going on with the mysticism and visions that are tough to explain without it. She was on the rebel basestar when D’Anna mentions “4 in the fleet,” and I’m willing to believe that D’Anna’s fake out in “The Hub” might just be a double fake out, designed to put us off the trail and fake the viewers out. I don’t think Ron Moore planned out the final five cylons that early, but I don’t think Baltar’s cancer cure would have worked if Roslyn was a cylon. Something about fundamental differences between human and cylon somethingwhatsit. Of course, Moore has said that the five are fundamentally different… I’m also in the Starbuck’s mom camp. Kara as a cylon is a big cop-out, but Kara as the first human-cylon hybrid makes for a ton of depth and explanation for her character. Not Gaetta. It just doesn’t add anything, or create any sort of “oh! That’s why that happened!” moment. Not Baltar. He’s the ultimate human embodiment - completely flawed, capable of absolute brilliance, capable of pandering to his base instincts, ultimately redeemable. Making him a cylon throws all of that away. I think Roslin could be the other side of that coin. ---
**Author:** ![dmatsch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3be4f8/32.png) [@dmatsch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dmatsch)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/24 "2009-01-16T17:20:23Z")
> [@Gukumatz](#): > > If the last cylon turns out to be Ellen Tigh, _I fucking called it._. I’m hoping Lorne Greene is her dad. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/25 "2009-01-16T17:42:24Z")
Someone who has not yet appeared on the show, based on the the intro page at [youwillknowthetruth.com](http://youwillknowthetruth.com) (“You do not know my name” or something), and D’Anna’s statement that the Fifth “is not in the fleet”. The first new character to be introduced this season will give it away. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/26 "2009-01-16T18:01:30Z")
According to Herc, it might just be revealed in the final moments of tonight’s episode; there was a scene deleted from the press screeners. [5 Stars for Tonight’s Ep.](http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39784) ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/27 "2009-01-16T18:08:03Z")
I’m gonna say it’s Crashdown. He’ll be pissed that Baltar shot him in the back. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/28 "2009-01-16T23:24:23Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > I’ll guess Gaeta. Doubt we’ll find out tomorrow night, but early in the remaining episodes. I stand corrected at least as to the timing. According to the episode description on my cable system, the final cylon will be revealed tonight. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/29 "2009-01-16T23:25:43Z")
I’d make a guess, but I neither watch the show, nor have a dart board. ---
**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/30 "2009-01-17T03:04:31Z")
Right now is the first time since ditching it that I regret cancelling cable to go the purchase on iTunes route. ☹ I have to make a prediction? Oh. Roslin. The shared visions with other beings, all of whom are cylons (except Balthar with his six-in-head) as far as I know are what make me lean in this direction. ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/31 "2009-01-17T03:57:52Z")
So, are we declaring a winner? ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/32 "2009-01-17T12:56:46Z")
Since the thread wasn’t labeled as have spoilers, I’ve removed the two posts giving them. Spoilers can go in another, properly labeled thread if you’d like. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/33 "2009-01-17T13:30:04Z")
> [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > Poor Billy - the guy with the internship from hell. Whenever I saw him, I kept thinking “However many academic credits he’s getting for this, it just isn’t enough.” Oh frack that was funny. Even the name Billy just somehow seems a perfect fit to the situation to boot. I laughed till I cried. Thank you! Brought back all those horrible memories of killer labs that almost felt like a full time job worth only a single credit. Registration. Lame academic requirements. Talking with academic advisors blah blah blah… Maybe they will give the poor guy an honary Phd in Post Apocalyptic Time Management. ---
**Author:** ![Hellestal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3ab097/32.png) [@Hellestal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hellestal)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/34 "2009-01-17T14:04:06Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > I’m not guessing who the final Cylon is, but WRT Starbuck, I’ve thought for a long time she might be the first hybrid, with daddy being a Cylon. But, that would make daddy the final Cylon and I think the final Cylon is supposed to be someone we’ve already seen. It’s still technically possible that one of the other male Cylons is the father. Tyrol, Tigh, and Anders have spotty memories. And some of the original models are collectively crazy or vicious enough (the Leobens and the Cavils especially), one of them might’ve done the deed and not told his siblings. The funniest father would be Tigh, which would also paint a nice new shade to their already colorful relationship. Leoben would win the incest award. But as for the answer to the thread, I have to say I’m a bit disappointed.[spoiler]Ellen? So much of Tigh’s characterization for the last two season has been built on her death, this recent revelation would seem to entirely undermine that emotional whollop. Just a weird choice, it seems to me. Frakin great episode, though.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![ambushed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@ambushed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ambushed)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/35 "2009-01-19T01:32:09Z")
**Gukumatz** fucking called it. Kudos! But I just can’t see any good dramatic sense of that choice! She’s one of the least significant characters in the entire series, in my opinion. Did they pick her name out of a hat or something? If she had _never_ been in the story at all, nothing of significance would have changed. Had the final Cylon been Boxey, as some have joked, it would make precisely as much dramatic and logical sense. I don’t like it. The rest of the episodes do not look promising now that she has been revealed as the final Cylon. ---
**Author:** ![Todderbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@Todderbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Todderbob)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/36 "2009-01-19T01:37:57Z")
> [@Hellestal](#): > > It’s still technically possible that one of the other male Cylons is the father. Tyrol, Tigh, and Anders have spotty memories. And some of the original models are collectively crazy or vicious enough (the Leobens and the Cavils especially), one of them might’ve done the deed and not told his siblings. > > The funniest father would be Tigh, which would also paint a nice new shade to their already colorful relationship. Leoben would win the incest award. But as for the answer to the thread, I have to say I’m a bit disappointed.[spoiler]Ellen? So much of Tigh’s characterization for the last two season has been built on her death, this recent revelation would seem to entirely undermine that emotional whollop. Just a weird choice, it seems to me. > > Frakin great episode, though.[/spoiler] [Spoiler]I think it’s perverse… I mean… Tigh killed her for sleeping with a cylon, aiding the enemy. And he ended up being a Cylon. And so was she. It’s like a Greek Tragedy![/Spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![ambushed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@ambushed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ambushed)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/37 "2009-01-19T01:48:37Z")
> [@Todderbob](#): > > [Spoiler]I think it’s perverse… I mean… Tigh killed her for sleeping with a cylon, aiding the enemy. And he ended up being a Cylon. > > And so was she. > > It’s like a Greek Tragedy![/Spoiler] Yes, it is, but so what? What _hasn’t_ been like a Greek tragedy in this show? In my view, that’s one of the least dramatic, least appealing, and least rewarding story arcs in the entire formerly-brilliant, but in my mind, newly-frakked series. Fuck. ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/38 "2009-01-19T14:18:17Z")
Again, please remember this thread is about guessing who the last Cylon is, not discussing who it actually turned out to be to (for those who have seen the episode). Feel free to discuss that in a separate thread where spoilers are allowed. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/39 "2009-01-19T17:58:30Z")
Everyone will turn out to be Cylons. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561/40 "2009-01-19T21:30:00Z")
Roslin. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guess-who-the-last-cylon-is-no-spoilers/481561.md?page=1)