# Guiliani starting to get nervous? asking Trump about a pre-emptive pardon **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 1, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guiliani-starting-to-get-nervous-asking-trump-about-a-pre-emptive-pardon/926958 "2020-12-01T21:51:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guiliani-starting-to-get-nervous-asking-trump-about-a-pre-emptive-pardon/926958/1 "2020-12-01T21:51:44Z")
Hmm. Rudy may be starting to look ahead and thinking “Oh-oh”? > **[Giuliani Seeking Pre-Emptive Pardon](https://politicalwire.com/2020/12/01/giuliani-has-discussed-possible-pardon-with-trump/)** > > "Rudy Giuliani, President Trump’s lawyer who has led the most extensive efforts to damage his client’s political rivals and undermine the election results, discussed with the president as recently as last week the possibility of receiving a... ---
**Author:** ![Kimera757](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimera757/32/3765_2.png) [@Kimera757](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimera757)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guiliani-starting-to-get-nervous-asking-trump-about-a-pre-emptive-pardon/926958/2 "2020-12-01T22:27:14Z")
He denied it. And we all know he only speaks truth. Okay, seriously, I’m not surprised. It’s probably not even illegal, although it’s unseemly. Can we get him on state charges? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guiliani-starting-to-get-nervous-asking-trump-about-a-pre-emptive-pardon/926958/3 "2020-12-01T23:29:50Z")
And another story. Purely unrelated, I assume. [https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/01/politics/presidential-pardon-justice-department/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/01/politics/presidential-pardon-justice-department/index.html) But then there’s this: > [@](#): > > Communications between attorneys and clients are typically privileged and kept from prosecutors as they build their cases, but in this situation, Howell allowed the prosecutors access. Attorney-client communications are not protected as privileged under the law when there is discussion of a crime, among other exceptions. > > “The political strategy to obtain a presidential pardon was ‘parallel’ to and distinct from [redacted]'s role as an attorney-advocate for [redacted name],” Howell wrote in her court order. hmmm. This issue may be worth following… ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guiliani-starting-to-get-nervous-asking-trump-about-a-pre-emptive-pardon/926958/4 "2020-12-02T02:30:35Z")
I’m following this story on MSNBC and they are being very careful to say the visible information they have access to (from heavily redacted court records) doesn’t necessarily make it clear that Trump is who is underneath the black bars but having said that… I don’t think it’s the White House Janitor _selling pardons_. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guiliani-starting-to-get-nervous-asking-trump-about-a-pre-emptive-pardon/926958/5 "2020-12-02T02:35:39Z")
News item I saw somewhere: Some GOP group under investigation for selling 2 counterfeit red MAGA caps with Trump’s signature (forged) on them. Maybe these same people are selling forged pardons now? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/guiliani-starting-to-get-nervous-asking-trump-about-a-pre-emptive-pardon/926958/6 "2020-12-02T03:03:37Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Trump’s signature (forged) That’d be a cheap scam! I mean, a dozen monkeys with Sharpies and Parkinson’s…